There Will Be No Millennial Kingdom On This Earth, Jesus Dissolves It By Fire!

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Truth7t7

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The church fathers believed in the correct scriptural Post-Tribulation, Pre-millenium classical millenialism, it has through the ages been twisted by many, who read the scriptures for what they want it to say. Many believe in nunc-Milleniumism, or amilleniunism - it is not scriptural however, as the battle of Gog and Magog is on this earth, after the 1000 years.


Revelation 20 (ESV)


4 Then I saw thrones, and seated on them were those to whom the authority to judge was committed. Also I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for the testimony of Jesus and for the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. 7 And when the thousand years are ended, Satan will be released from his prison 8 and will come out to deceive the nations that are at the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them for battle; their number is like the sand of the sea. 9 And they marched up over the broad plain of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city, but fire came down from heaven and consumed them, 10 and the devil who had deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and sulfur where the beast and the false prophet were, and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.
You post Revelation 20:4-10, there isnt a kingdom on earth in Revelation 20:1-6

Satan is released at the end of the tribulation, and he is seen with the beast and false prophet, as devils go forth to the kings of the earth to gather them to the final battle,same battle seen in Rev 20:7-8

Same Battle, Parallel Teachings

Revelation 20:7-8KJV
7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.

Revelation 16:12-17
12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.
13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.
15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.
16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.
17 And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.
 

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You post Revelation 20
Correct, we are speaking about the millenium of Revelation 20 ?:

Millenium = 1000 years


Revelation 20 (ESV)


4 Then I saw thrones, and seated on them were those to whom the authority to judge was committed. Also I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for the testimony of Jesus and for the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years.
 

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Correct, we are speaking about the millenium of Revelation 20 ?:

Millenium = 1000 years


Revelation 20 (ESV)


4 Then I saw thrones, and seated on them were those to whom the authority to judge was committed. Also I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for the testimony of Jesus and for the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years.
1,000 years is one day, there isnt literal earthly time seen in Revelation 20:1-6, its 100% in the Lords spiritual realm of (No Time)

Once Again, And Again, And Again
There is no Kingdom on earth seen or mortal humans,why do you and many falsely claim its literal earth, and literal time?

2 Peter 3:8KJV
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Revelation 20:1-6KJV
And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.

2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,

3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.

4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
 

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You post Revelation 20:4-10, there isnt a kingdom on earth in Revelation 20:1-6

Satan is released at the end of the tribulation, and he is seen with the beast and false prophet, as devils go forth to the kings of the earth to gather them to the final battle,same battle seen in Rev 20:7-8

Same Battle, Parallel Teachings

Revelation 20:7-8KJV
7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.

Revelation 16:12-17
12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.
13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.
15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.
16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.
17 And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.
You skip verse 9, which tells you that the Battle of Gog and Magog is against Christ Yeshua and the saints, where they ruled a 1000 years, on this earth, from this earth's beloved city, Jerusalem:


Revelation 20 (KJV)


9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
 

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Revelation 20 (NKJV)

Satan Bound 1,000 Years

1Then I saw an angel coming down from heaven, having the key to the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. 2He laid hold of the dragon, that serpent of old, who is the Devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years; 3and he cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal on him, so that he should deceive the nations no more till the thousand years were finished. But after these things he must be released for a little while.

The Saints Reign with Christ 1,000 Years

4And I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was committed to them. Then I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their witness to Jesus and for the word of God, who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received his mark on their foreheads or on their hands. And they lived and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. 5But the rest of the dead did not live again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. 6Blessed and holy is he who has part in the first resurrection. Over such the second death has no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with Him a thousand years.

Satanic Rebellion Crushed

7Now when the thousand years have expired, Satan will be released from his prison 8and will go out to deceive the nations which are in the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle, whose number is as the sand of the sea. 9They went up on the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city. And fire came down from God out of heaven and devoured them. 10The devil, who deceived them, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone where the beast and the false prophet are. And they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.

Revelation 20 (NKJV)

The Great White Throne Judgment

11Then I saw a great white throne and Him who sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away. And there was found no place for them. 12And I saw the dead, small and great, standing before God, and books were opened.


Revelation 21 (NKJV)

All Things Made New

1Now I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away.
 

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Revelation 20 (NKJV)

Satan Bound 1,000 Years

1Then I saw an angel coming down from heaven, having the key to the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. 2He laid hold of the dragon, that serpent of old, who is the Devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years; 3and he cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal on him, so that he should deceive the nations no more till the thousand years were finished. But after these things he must be released for a little while.

The Saints Reign with Christ 1,000 Years

4And I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was committed to them. Then I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their witness to Jesus and for the word of God, who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received his mark on their foreheads or on their hands. And they lived and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. 5But the rest of the dead did not live again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. 6Blessed and holy is he who has part in the first resurrection. Over such the second death has no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with Him a thousand years.

Satanic Rebellion Crushed

7Now when the thousand years have expired, Satan will be released from his prison 8and will go out to deceive the nations which are in the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle, whose number is as the sand of the sea. 9They went up on the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city. And fire came down from God out of heaven and devoured them. 10The devil, who deceived them, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone where the beast and the false prophet are. And they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.

Revelation 20 (NKJV)

The Great White Throne Judgment

11Then I saw a great white throne and Him who sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away. And there was found no place for them. 12And I saw the dead, small and great, standing before God, and books were opened.


Revelation 21 (NKJV)

All Things Made New

1Now I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away.
The same lie pushed in a pre-trib rapture using scripture out of context

This is the very same lie in a literal Millennial Kingdom on earth taking place,as I have shown you (Several Times) no literal physical Kingdom on earth, with humans present is seen in Revelation 20:1-6, (NONE)

The very same way dispensationalism teaches a pre-trib rapture falsely, Millennialist do exactly the same, hanging onto a Literal Millennial Kingdom On This Earth, When The Scripture Used Rev 20:1-6 Dosent Support It

No Literal Kingdom On Earth Is Seen Below Ben and You Know It, But Your Gonna Fight To Hang Onto Something That Dosent Exist, Just Like Those That Teach A Pre-Trib Rapture

That Seen Below, Is 100% In The Spiritual Realm, Angel, Heaven, Satan, Devil, The Souls, The Dead, God, Christ

And You Teach And Believe A Literal Kingdom On This Earth Is Seen For 1,000 Literal Years, Really? :rolleyes:

And you wont let it go, as you hang onto something not seen, why?

Revelation 20:1-6KJV
1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
 

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The same lie pushed in a pre-trib rapture using scripture out of context

This is the very same lie in a literal Millennial Kingdom on earth taking place,as I have shown you (Several Times) no literal physical Kingdom on earth, with humans present is seen in Revelation 20:1-6, (NONE)

The very same way dispensationalism teaches a pre-trib rapture falsely, Millennialist do exactly the same, hanging onto a Literal Millennial Kingdom On This Earth, When The Scripture Used Rev 20:1-6 Dosent Support It

No Literal Kingdom On Earth Is Seen Below Ben and You Know It, But Your Gonna Fight To Hang Onto Something That Dosent Exist, Just Like Those That Teach A Pre-Trib Rapture

That Seen Below, Is 100% In The Spiritual Realm, Angel, Heaven, Satan, Devil, The Souls, The Dead, God, Christ

And You Teach And Believe A Literal Kingdom On This Earth Is Seen For 1,000 Literal Years, Really? :rolleyes:

And you wont let it go, as you hang onto something not seen, why?

Revelation 20:1-6KJV
1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
Truth, if you believe the earth is dissolved before the "1000 years", how can the earth reappear again, as the earth is again mentioned in Revelation 20 verses 7 and 9, when the "1000 years" have expired?

Revelation 20 (NKJV)

Satanic Rebellion Crushed

7Now when the thousand years have expired, Satan will be released from his prison 8and will go out to deceive the nations which are in the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle, whose number is as the sand of the sea. 9They went up on the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city. And fire came down from God out of heaven and devoured them. 10The devil, who deceived them, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone where the beast and the false prophet are. And they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.
 

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Truth, if you believe the earth is dissolved before the "1000 years", how can the earth reappear again, as the earth is again mentioned in Revelation 20 verses 7 and 9, when the "1000 years" have expired?

Revelation 20 (NKJV)

Satanic Rebellion Crushed

7Now when the thousand years have expired, Satan will be released from his prison 8and will go out to deceive the nations which are in the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle, whose number is as the sand of the sea. 9They went up on the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city. And fire came down from God out of heaven and devoured them. 10The devil, who deceived them, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone where the beast and the false prophet are. And they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.
The Non-Literal 1,000 Years In The Spiritual Realm Is Taking Place Currently, Its Not Literal Time On This Earth, Its A Figure Of Speech Used To Explain The Lords Spiritual Realm, Of No Literal Time, One Day Is A Thousand Years, Once Again No Literal Time.

Satan Will Be Loosed Towards The End Of The Tribulation To Deceive The Nations To Battle

Once Again, There Isnt A Literal Physical Kingdom On This Earth Seen In Revelation 20:1-6 And You Know It Ben

Just as those teaching a pre-trib rapture wont let go of their teaching when scripture is before their face?

Millennialist do the very same thing, when the scripture is before their face, No Literal Kingdom on this earth is seen below, and you know it.

You Teach And Believe A Literal Kingdom On This Earth Is Seen For 1,000 Literal Years? :rolleyes:

And you wont let it go, as you hang onto something not seen, why?

Revelation 20:1-6KJV
1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
 

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The Non-Literal 1,000 Years In The Spiritual Realm Is Taking Place Currently, Its Not Literal Time On This Earth, Its A Figure Of Speech Used To Explain The Lords Spiritual Realm, Of No Literal Time, One Day Is A Thousand Years, Once Again No Literal Time.

Revelation 20:1-6KJV
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
You say that they who had not worshipped the beast is currently reigning with Christ? The great tribulation is still to come?
 

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You say that they who had not worshipped the beast is currently reigning with Christ? The great tribulation is still to come?
The Non-Literal 1,000 years represents time from the cross of Calvary, and future time in the spiritual realm, up until the second coming.

(The souls) seen in Rev 20:4 below, are the same souls seen in Rev 6:9-11 below, tribulation saints waiting for the second coming and final Final judgement

Ben another fact is Jesus returns in fire,dissolving this earth, I have shown you several times,this takes place when the Lord is revealed-appears?

We agree that the second coming takes place immediately after the tribulation, and it clearly states they shall see the son of man coming?

Ben you want to remove the fire in destruction of this earth, (Dissolved) as 2 Pet 3:10-11 states, why?

So you can maintain a Literal Millennial Kingdom On this earth, where mortal humans are running around,as Jesus Sits on a throne of David,with humans dying around him

(A MAN MADE FAIRY TALE)

Revelation 20:4KJV
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

Revelation 6:9-11KJV
9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:
10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?
11 And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.
 

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The Non-Literal 1,000 years represents time from the cross of Calvary, and future time in the spiritual realm, up until the second coming.

(The souls) seen in Rev 20:4 below, are the same souls seen in Rev 6:9-11 below, tribulation saints waiting for the second coming and final Final judgement

Ben another fact is Jesus returns in fire,dissolving this earth, I have shown you several times,this takes place when the Lord is revealed-appears?

We agree that the second coming takes place immediately after the tribulation, and it clearly states they shall see the son of man coming?

Ben you want to remove the fire in destruction of this earth, (Dissolved) as 2 Pet 3:10-11 states, why?

So you can maintain a Literal Millennial Kingdom On this earth, where mortal humans are running around,as Jesus Sits on a throne of David,with humans dying around him

(A MAN MADE FAIRY TALE)

Revelation 20:4KJV
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

Revelation 6:9-11KJV
9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:
10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?
11 And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.
I think we are going to disagree on this one. I read Revelation 20:1-10 for what it says, if I have to read something other than what it says, there should be a reason for changing the literal meaning of the text. I cannot find any reason to change the literal meaning of the text, as it fits other scriptural prophesy. There are fire raining on earth at the end of the great tribulation, but it does not destroy or dissolve the earth yet. The destruction / dissolving of the earth happens after the expiration of the 1000 years, after the battle of Gog and Magog.
 

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The Non-Literal 1,000 years represents time from the cross of Calvary, and future time in the spiritual realm, up until the second coming.

(The souls) seen in Rev 20:4 below, are the same souls seen in Rev 6:9-11 below, tribulation saints waiting for the second coming and final Final judgement

Ben another fact is Jesus returns in fire,dissolving this earth, I have shown you several times,this takes place when the Lord is revealed-appears?

We agree that the second coming takes place immediately after the tribulation, and it clearly states they shall see the son of man coming?

Ben you want to remove the fire in destruction of this earth, (Dissolved) as 2 Pet 3:10-11 states, why?

So you can maintain a Literal Millennial Kingdom On this earth, where mortal humans are running around,as Jesus Sits on a throne of David,with humans dying around him

(A MAN MADE FAIRY TALE)

Revelation 20:4KJV
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

Revelation 6:9-11KJV
9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:
10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?
11 And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.
We can also hardly say that the 1000 years is the current period, and that Satan is currently bounded. Worldly events does not indicate a bounded Satan, as of yet, on this earth - he is thrown here out of heaven, since Calvary, and will in future be bounded for a 1000 years, at the return of Christ Yeshua to this earth, after the great tribulation. After the 1000 years has expired, Satan will be loosened only for the battle of Gog and Magog on this earth, before being cast eternally into the lake of fire, with the beast and false prophet of the great tribulation.


Revelation 12 (NKJV)

7And war broke out in heaven: Michael and his angels fought with the dragon; and the dragon and his angels fought, 8but they did not prevail, nor was a place found for them in heaven any longer. 9So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
10Then I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, “Now salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren, who accused them before our God day and night, has been cast down. 11And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony, and they did not love their lives to the death. 12Therefore rejoice, O heavens, and you who dwell in them! Woe to the inhabitants of the earth and the sea! For the devil has come down to you, having great wrath, because he knows that he has a short time.”
 

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I think we are going to disagree on this one. I read Revelation 20:1-10 for what it says, if I have to read something other than what it says, there should be a reason for changing the literal meaning of the text. I cannot find any reason to change the literal meaning of the text, as it fits other scriptural prophesy. There are fire raining on earth at the end of the great tribulation, but it does not destroy or dissolve the earth yet. The destruction / dissolving of the earth happens after the expiration of the 1000 years, after the battle of Gog and Magog.
If you honestly read it for what it is as you cliam, no literal Kingdom on earth for 1,000 years is seen in Revelation 20:1-6 and that's a fact.

You try to justify a literal earth, by pointing to Revelation 20:7-10?

(False) as Rev 20:7 states when the thousand years expire Satan is loosed,

That puts you right back to Rev 20:1-6, the place where no literal Kingdom on this earth is seen, let alone mortal humans present,with Jesus sitting on a earthly throne as many falsely teach.

(A MAN MADE FAIRY TALE) just like a pre-trib rapture is.
 

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If you honestly read it for what it is as you cliam, no literal Kingdom on earth for 1,000 years is seen in Revelation 20:1-6 and that's a fact.

You try to justify a literal earth, by pointing to Revelation 20:7-10?

(False) as Rev 20:7 states when the thousand years expire Satan is loosed,

That puts you right back to Rev 20:1-6, the place where no literal Kingdom on this earth is seen, let alone mortal humans present,with Jesus sitting on a earthly throne as many falsely teach.

(A MAN MADE FAIRY TALE) just like a pre-trib rapture is.
Matthew 6 (NKJV)

10Your kingdom come.
Your will be done
On earth as it is in heaven.


Revelation 20 (NKJV)

The Saints Reign with Christ 1,000 Years

4And I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was committed to them. Then I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their witness to Jesus and for the word of God, who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received his mark on their foreheads or on their hands. And they lived and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. 5But the rest of the dead did not live again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. 6Blessed and holy is he who has part in the first resurrection. Over such the second death has no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with Him a thousand years.

Satanic Rebellion Crushed

7Now when the thousand years have expired, Satan will be released from his prison 8and will go out to deceive the nations which are in the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle, whose number is as the sand of the sea. 9They went up on the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city. And fire came down from God out of heaven and devoured them. 10The devil, who deceived them, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone where the beast and the false prophet are. And they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.
 

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We can also hardly say that the 1000 years is the current period, and that Satan is currently bounded. Worldly events does not indicate a bounded Satan, as of yet, on this earth - he is thrown here out of heaven, since Calvary, and will in future be bounded for a 1000 years, at the return of Christ Yeshua to this earth, after the great tribulation. After the 1000 years has expired, Satan will be loosened only for the battle of Gog and Magog on this earth, before being cast eternally into the lake of fire, with the beast and false prophet of the great tribulation.


Revelation 12 (NKJV)

7And war broke out in heaven: Michael and his angels fought with the dragon; and the dragon and his angels fought, 8but they did not prevail, nor was a place found for them in heaven any longer. 9So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
10Then I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, “Now salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren, who accused them before our God day and night, has been cast down. 11And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony, and they did not love their lives to the death. 12Therefore rejoice, O heavens, and you who dwell in them! Woe to the inhabitants of the earth and the sea! For the devil has come down to you, having great wrath, because he knows that he has a short time.”
I have explained several times Satan is bound from one specific purpose, as you respond as if your unaware of my position,that isnt honesty Ben, is it

Scripture states satan is bound from (Deceiving The Nations) and Rev 20:8 below shows that (Deceiving The Nation, Is To Battle)

Nothing in the scripture below,states satan is bound from all evil in the world, thats you belief, but its not scriptural in my opinion.

The definition of (DeceiveThe Nations) is right before your eyes,will you receive the simple, clear, truth presented?

Scripture Interprets Itself, Right Before Your Eyes

Revelation 20:1-8KJV
1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
 

Truth7t7

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Matthew 6 (NKJV)

10Your kingdom come.
Your will be done
On earth as it is in heaven.


Revelation 20 (NKJV)

The Saints Reign with Christ 1,000 Years

4And I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was committed to them. Then I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their witness to Jesus and for the word of God, who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received his mark on their foreheads or on their hands. And they lived and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. 5But the rest of the dead did not live again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. 6Blessed and holy is he who has part in the first resurrection. Over such the second death has no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with Him a thousand years.

Satanic Rebellion Crushed

7Now when the thousand years have expired, Satan will be released from his prison 8and will go out to deceive the nations which are in the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle, whose number is as the sand of the sea. 9They went up on the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city. And fire came down from God out of heaven and devoured them. 10The devil, who deceived them, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone where the beast and the false prophet are. And they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.
Ben you haven't shown that a 1,000 year Kingdom on this earth, you bend and twist maintain your teaching,just as those in teaching a pre-trib rapture

This is the 3rd time, running around the same bush, with a full explanation, you desire to maintain a literal Kingdom is seen in Rev 20:1-6 it isnt

The horse is dead
 

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I have explained several times Satan is bound from one specific purpose, as you respond as if your unaware of my position,that isnt honesty Ben, is it

Scripture states satan is bound from (Deceiving The Nations) and Rev 20:8 below shows that (Deceiving The Nation, Is To Battle)

Nothing in the scripture below,states satan is bound from all evil in the world, thats you belief, but its not scriptural in my opinion.

The definition of (DeceiveThe Nations) is right before your eyes,will you receive the simple, clear, truth presented?

Scripture Interprets Itself, Right Before Your Eyes

Revelation 20:1-8KJV
1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
And have the nations not battled since Calvary?
 

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Ben you haven't shown that a 1,000 year Kingdom on this earth, you bend and twist maintain your teaching,just as those in teaching a pre-trib rapture

This is the 3rd time, running around the same bush, with a full explanation, you desire to maintain a literal Kingdom is seen in Rev 20:1-6 it isnt

The horse is dead
No bending or twisting on my behalf... just this scripture, to be read as is:

Matthew 6 (NKJV)

10Your kingdom come.
Your will be done
On earth as it is in heaven.


Revelation 20 (NKJV)

The Saints Reign with Christ 1,000 Years

4And I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was committed to them. Then I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their witness to Jesus and for the word of God, who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received his mark on their foreheads or on their hands. And they lived and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. 5But the rest of the dead did not live again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. 6Blessed and holy is he who has part in the first resurrection. Over such the second death has no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with Him a thousand years.

Satanic Rebellion Crushed

7Now when the thousand years have expired, Satan will be released from his prison 8and will go out to deceive the nations which are in the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle, whose number is as the sand of the sea. 9They went up on the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city. And fire came down from God out of heaven and devoured them. 10The devil, who deceived them, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone where the beast and the false prophet are. And they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.
 

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There Will Be No 1,000 Year Millennial Kingdom Upon This Earth...
Completely erroneous!

The Millennium is widely reported in the Old Testament.

For those interested I did a blog on it, you can find it Here