MGTOW Red Pill Bible Are woman capable of loving a man?
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Totally missing the point, it's the source of love, I don't care that she's in love with me and wants to have my kids. If I'm the one causing her to be in love with me outside of her own free choice. She can be in love her whole life to you, but it's dependent on you the MAN to keep her in love. As soon as you stop her love fades and oops I'm not in love anymore. Which makes it kind of meaningless if majority are incapable of maintaining love out of their own being. Their love seems to be dependent on an external source man.
To make it easy so a 5 year old can understand.
Woman to Love Man = Man has to keep her in love artificial external influence. (fake love as you're technically being manipulated into loving the man subconsciously)
Woman / Man to love child = naturally loves child irrespective of their actions or how said child makes them feel (hence true love)
So are there a tiny % fraction of the woman population who can conjure up love for prolonged periods of time from within themselves towards their husbands irrespective of their husbands actions.
Woman to Love Man = Man has to keep her in love artificial external influence. (fake love as you're technically being manipulated into loving the man subconsciously)
Woman / Man to love child = naturally loves child irrespective of their actions or how said child makes them feel (hence true love)
So are there a tiny % fraction of the woman population who can conjure up love for prolonged periods of time from within themselves towards their husbands irrespective of their husbands actions.
Very totally not crushed, see it with majority of woman I talk to try to date it just comes out naturally from them. Just because I accept reality for what it is doesn't make me "crushed" or "sad" or "bitter" or "mean" because I'm an adult who can handle reality and life unlike 99% of the population who have to shield their fragile egos because they'll feel bad if they found out maybe their spouses never truly love them.
They're very aware as I don't lie to myself or others as majority in the world seem to do even in the face of statistics.
Let that sink in for a second 80% of divorces are initiated from woman because the man failed to make them happy, you have to be stupid to ignore those facts.
I've even had these conversations with some woman, the real honest ones admit it. Even to the shocking point of my own cousin saying after you have kids, you don't really love your spouse anymore you just end up respecting them and that's it.
So the notion of sacrificial romantic type of love is thrown out the window, but again leave all anecdotal evidence aside studies speak for themselves seems like one gender is WAY less sacrificial in their own will power unless kept in that state.
Simply was asking if there is a small % that is capable of truly loving out of their own volition.
Don't worry I'll be fine, I'll get married, keep a woman artificially in love with me by hitting her primitive biological switches, and I'll accept the fact that she loves me because of my ability of making her love me haha.
They're very aware as I don't lie to myself or others as majority in the world seem to do even in the face of statistics.
Let that sink in for a second 80% of divorces are initiated from woman because the man failed to make them happy, you have to be stupid to ignore those facts.
I've even had these conversations with some woman, the real honest ones admit it. Even to the shocking point of my own cousin saying after you have kids, you don't really love your spouse anymore you just end up respecting them and that's it.
So the notion of sacrificial romantic type of love is thrown out the window, but again leave all anecdotal evidence aside studies speak for themselves seems like one gender is WAY less sacrificial in their own will power unless kept in that state.
Simply was asking if there is a small % that is capable of truly loving out of their own volition.
Don't worry I'll be fine, I'll get married, keep a woman artificially in love with me by hitting her primitive biological switches, and I'll accept the fact that she loves me because of my ability of making her love me haha.
Make sure you all get married flip a coin and hope you don't get divorced, Christianity isn't going to save you as it has the same 50% divorce rate. Stay ignorant and have failing marriages. When I get married I'm more than confident I'll be married for life If I choose to, as I can keep a woman in love.
This was just for my self intellectual discoveries and If i could have an alternate choice of not keeping people in love artificially.
Ahh the weakness of the flesh, I guess this is why Paul recommended celibacy for those strong enough.
This was just for my self intellectual discoveries and If i could have an alternate choice of not keeping people in love artificially.
Ahh the weakness of the flesh, I guess this is why Paul recommended celibacy for those strong enough.
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This may come off sounding rough, but, have you hit puberty yet? Your worldview is extremely immature. You're making blanket statements and judgment calls on people you don't know. Your status says single. If you're this immature, I can see why. Very childish POV. You need to grow up and experience life a little if you're this easily jaded about everyone, like, everyone. Maybe, just maybe, the problem is you. Just a thought.
Well a bit of science is called for here. Being "in love" only biologically can last for up to 3 years - no matter the gender. It's not possible for anybody to feel identical after several years of relationship. Being in love is a feeling encouraged by oxytocin surge, which is interpreted by our neurons as a deep sense of closeness, and gradually wears out for the most part after the initial year or two... up to about 3. Love, however, is not a feeling, it is an emotional disposition, the hormones just help foster and establish what we're supposed to build upon afterwards. But people are lazy and want to keep relying on the flesh. It's very difficult to keep anyone "in love" indefinitely because this is a feeling stirred up by pleasant hormonal sensations. There are also immature men who think after these initial feelings wear down, that the love is gone, and then they go chase that excitement that they used to have with their wife, and go cheating.
I believe education is in order. I read about psychology since I was a teenager, it helped me start forming proper ideas how does a healthy relationship look like, what is love, vs what is being in love. Unfortunately, parents or schools don't really talk about important subjects such as these. Then I became Christian, so my ideas expanded more, according to the teachings of Jesus. Then I met my husband, who also had a positive influence on me. I imagine I cannot be the only one who experienced spiritual growth over the years. Not all women live by chick flicks, a lot of us are interested into pursuing spiritual growth and giving love, not just taking. As incredible as this might seem to you.
To a point, I understand your concern. Nobody wants to be used and abused in a relationship, and love had definitely gone down the drain in these times. There are women out there that do have unrealistic expectations. I personally largely blame movie industry and romance novels where the man is elevated to a demigod status who solves all her problems. This is the root of the problem, imo. But you're crossing into paranoid worldview where you started to believe that emotionally mature women don't exist out there.
By all means, be extremely selective when dating. If you still believe that it is not worth the risk to try finding a person that will love you for you, and feel safer to stay single as a chaste Christian man, that's respectable. I respect and support rare MGTOW people who choose to dedicate themselves to healthy life and achieve personal happiness through meaningful activities outside of dating. However, most wallow in negativity, self righteousness and hatred and it's a very poisonous and evil brew which will indeed poison you if you choose to hang around such.
I believe education is in order. I read about psychology since I was a teenager, it helped me start forming proper ideas how does a healthy relationship look like, what is love, vs what is being in love. Unfortunately, parents or schools don't really talk about important subjects such as these. Then I became Christian, so my ideas expanded more, according to the teachings of Jesus. Then I met my husband, who also had a positive influence on me. I imagine I cannot be the only one who experienced spiritual growth over the years. Not all women live by chick flicks, a lot of us are interested into pursuing spiritual growth and giving love, not just taking. As incredible as this might seem to you.
To a point, I understand your concern. Nobody wants to be used and abused in a relationship, and love had definitely gone down the drain in these times. There are women out there that do have unrealistic expectations. I personally largely blame movie industry and romance novels where the man is elevated to a demigod status who solves all her problems. This is the root of the problem, imo. But you're crossing into paranoid worldview where you started to believe that emotionally mature women don't exist out there.
By all means, be extremely selective when dating. If you still believe that it is not worth the risk to try finding a person that will love you for you, and feel safer to stay single as a chaste Christian man, that's respectable. I respect and support rare MGTOW people who choose to dedicate themselves to healthy life and achieve personal happiness through meaningful activities outside of dating. However, most wallow in negativity, self righteousness and hatred and it's a very poisonous and evil brew which will indeed poison you if you choose to hang around such.
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No, no I'm pretty sure the problem is you. Nowhere in the Bible does it say anything to back up your immature POV. Have you ever been married? Have you ever been in a serious long term relationship, not online either. A face to face relationship. How did that work out for you. Be honest.
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I'm not speaking of biological artificial love "dopamine" rush when I mean love, I mean true sacrificial love when those feelings fade, when your husband / wife is giving you nothing in return and you continue to stay.
Also, those feelings even though they change can be re-stirred quite frequently with certain tactics, some things are day to day normal things that people do but never think about, they having a bonding effect, such as shared experiences / secrets.
Also, those feelings even though they change can be re-stirred quite frequently with certain tactics, some things are day to day normal things that people do but never think about, they having a bonding effect, such as shared experiences / secrets.
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Why is it 0? Have you ever been married before? You're not like those people who tell others how to raise kids but don't have any of your own and haven't so much as babysat for one. If you've never been married you've nothing to say on the subject. Till you've been there, you don't know.
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This has to be the most confusing thread I think I have read. You want the best of the best, the perfect marriage yet you have such a low opinion of women and seem to be full of anger towards them. Like I said better for you to remain single. The "weakness of flesh" that you describe, well the bible states "his grace is sufficient for you".
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Well, share some verses that back up your claim that woman are incapable of selfless love. I don't see any verses you have shared backing this claim. There is nothing wrong with my reading but you're pretty touchy for a guy who knows everything about romance. So far, I ain't seein' it, Maybe it's just me.
Son, you're the one losing your emotional grip over a simple question. And you've answered the question with your over sensitive answer. Someone hurt you and you're angry and upset about it. Just come clean. You don't need to go on with a lot of nonsense.
Son, you're the one losing your emotional grip over a simple question. And you've answered the question with your over sensitive answer. Someone hurt you and you're angry and upset about it. Just come clean. You don't need to go on with a lot of nonsense.
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