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iamsoandso

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It actually is not socialism 101.

well what do you think socialism is then? If Berni Sander's say's "Medicare for everyone" everyone calls it "Democratic Socialism" why isn't it the same when you even stated in post # 2803 that "they would be excluded from the (Medicare) program if..." ????
 

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GEORGIA: A 20-year poll manager talks about the most *UNUSUAL* batch of ballots she has ever seenRed exclamation mark symbol "An overwhelming amount were *EXACTLY* the same pristine, no folds, with a different feel."

 

Roughsoul1991

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Yes your correct he is from the old days,,, and is why most all of us who were born in the 1920's,30's ect. are trying to tell the younger ones that we have seen these parties and their members go from one side to the other and back and forth multiple times across our lives.

Imagine it as someone telling you about a book they have never read(it would stand out to those who read it). It's the same with history,politics ect.ect.(we know what there doing because we witnessed what they've done) because we lived through it.
Experience has its place but history spans over generations. Most elderly people I talk to including my pastor have never seen this country in this shape before. Possibly because our elders from the mid-1800s are no longer living.

But experience is affected by a few factors.
  1. Knowledge
  2. Intelligence
  3. Demographics
  4. Worldview
  5. Ideologies
  6. Personal situations
The chronological number we are blessed to reach just means they have an older perspective built within the perimeters above.

Each has flaws. As in one cannot obtain all knowledge, our intelligence can differ, our environment can alter our perspective, how we view the world can alter it, our beliefs can alter it, and our personal situations in life can alter it.
 

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Wow, was this necessary?! Come on now. How's a country suppose to run like this? Chillax people.
I’m sorry, but it looks like both me and that other guy lacks some peace keeping skills.
 
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EleventhHour

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Priceless...

Mellissa Carone, 33, was on probation for a year for committing a computer crime, DailyMail.com reveals


The mother-of-two had struck a plea deal with Wayne County prosecutors, who in turn dropped a first degree obscenity charge against her

On Wednesday, she gave evidence to Michigan's state assembly about her claims of voter fraud when Rudy Giuliani tried to stop her berating lawmakers
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PennEd

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If this virus is so dangerous for every age, then why are politicians continually being caught going out and doing the very things they forbid others to do? I believe covid is real and a danger for people in a certain age range or with health issues. But if it's so horrifically dangerous, why do these politicians sneak out and get caught breaking their own rules?
Ignorance on steroids.

The virus is so dangerous most people don’t even know they had it!
 
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Johnjo

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Priceless...

Mellissa Carone, 33, was on probation for a year for committing a computer crime, DailyMail.com reveals

The mother-of-two had struck a plea deal with Wayne County prosecutors, who in turn dropped a first degree obscenity charge against her

On Wednesday, she gave evidence to Michigan's state assembly about her claims of voter fraud when Rudy Giuliani tried to stop her berating lawmakers
Source
You can’t make this stuff up.
 

iamsoandso

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Experience has its place but history spans over generations. Most elderly people I talk to including my pastor have never seen this country in this shape before. Possibly because our elders from the mid-1800s are no longer living.

But experience is affected by a few factors.
  1. Knowledge
  2. Intelligence
  3. Demographics
  4. Worldview
  5. Ideologies
  6. Personal situations
The chronological number we are blessed to reach just means they have an older perspective built within the perimeters above.

Each has flaws. As in one cannot obtain all knowledge, our intelligence can differ, our environment can alter our perspective, how we view the world can alter it, our beliefs can alter it, and our personal situations in life can alter it.

And correctly spoken you see I remember when automobiles were intended to run forever(and still have mine). I remember leaning to repair a tube radio,and pondering what exactly they meant by "color tv" when they first came out. I remember using a sharp shooter to trim around the tree's before they invented the weed-eaters.

I remember you see? I have watched the world change from no one having air conditioning to this. I know that in 1967 they signed a contract to run electricity into Choctaw County Mississippi(first to the city,then the farms). And before that I remember tying a string around a jar of milk and lowering it into the water well where it's cool to keep it from spoiling. I know that you butcher a hog in the fall so you can salt it and hang it under the porch across the winter.

I watched this go from those days before the computers and remember that with the first home phones you picked them up to see if anyone was using it because several families shared the same phone line. When the electricity first came to our house it was built with no wiring and so we took and ran wires around the sealing on the inside and down to the plugs/switches so the kids couldn't reach them. I remember when we(most of the US) remodeled our back porches and into indoor bathrooms(when the elec. came) and tore down the out house. The shame in it all though is that I remember the politics just as well seemingly for nothing because rare few folks hear what us old folks say,lol.
 
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EleventhHour

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well what do you think socialism is then? If Berni Sander's say's "Medicare for everyone" everyone calls it "Democratic Socialism" why isn't it the same when you even stated in post # 2803 that "they would be excluded from the (Medicare) program if..." ????
Explain to me how medicare is a socialist economy, medicare is a model of medical/social insurance.

What the USA has right now is "corporate socialism" in their health care service delivery.
Insurance companies siphon off health care dollars and make profits.
 

iamsoandso

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Explain to me how medicare is a socialist economy, medicare is a model of medical/social insurance.

What the USA has right now is "corporate socialism" in their health care service delivery.
Insurance companies siphon off health care dollars and make profits.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/socialism see the (3) the hospitals are paid by how many nurses,Dr's (or other staff) treat each patient(private insurance) but in the case of C-19 they are paid a flat sum by the government i.e. socialism.
 
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EleventhHour

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https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/socialism see the (3) the hospitals are paid by how many nurses,Dr's (or other staff) treat each patient(private insurance) but in the case of C-19 they are paid a flat sum by the government i.e. socialism.
That is not socialism, at it most simple definition, socialism is when the means of production is social ownership.
I think this conversation has reached its conclusion.
 
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