Your Imput: We Walk By Faith, Not By Sight

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2 Cor5:7 'For we walk by faith and not by sight'

With faith being so important to the believer, what you have to say is very important. What does that verse mean to you personally?
 
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by faith i live and move and have my being ,i mean this literally without my faith in God i have NO hope and no desire to exist..life would b meaningless,worthless...
 

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Boy, Im going to try and keep this simple. My husband keeps praying for God to show him his plan. I tried to explain that it is not so much about his plan but your steps. We do not know what lay ahead, only what we hope for. Each step I take I take in faith that our lord Jesus will keep my feet where they belong. Since we cannot keep ourselves compleatly free of sin we need in faith to trust our lord. If I take the wrong step in faith I can be confident he is with me to light my way and if I sin I know that his grace will cover me so that it will be transformed to glorify our Lord. Even in prayer I cannot be sure of my own intentions but by faith not only will my prayer be made perfect but by faith I need not fear. With all that goes on in the world it would be easy to be fearfull, but because of faith I can be confident that all will be to his glory and I will be protected. Not always the physical but always my spirit. By faith I am able to see and hear that which is not of the world but of his word. I often call it my fuzzy, fleece blanket of faith that protects me. God bess, pickles
 

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Thank you for your imput on the faith part. What do you think the 'sight' part of that verse refers to?
 
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Hebrews 11:1
Now faith is the substance of thing hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
 
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ok,here is where i jump in since i named myself after that very verse LOL...to me that verse means different things:
1) it means we walk trusting in GOD.Not losing focus because of the distractions of this world:problems,drama,issues,nightmares,diseases,such things.we walk with the Spirit of faith..
2)Hebrews 11:1 "faith is the substance of things hoped for,the evidence of things unseen" taking that apart, if we walk by believing in GOD, we have total focus on HIM and we have a strong relationship with HIM.we cant see him,but we sure do believe HE lives.and "things hoped for" isn't only materialistic things,it's more of spiritual needs.and we feel HIS holy spirit and presence,see HIS miracles,hear HIS voice,posses Gifts of the Spirit,that's the evidence. so the verse "we walk by faith and not by sight" will mean we walk like GOD and walk with HIM.
3)there is a verse that says "faith without works is dead" i believe that is in hebrews as well,at the moment im quiet drowsy haha ....but anyway...keeping that verse in mind,we see how if we dont work toward our faith,our faith is dead.so we are,in a sense,dead if we lack faith.so...that verse "we walk by faith and not by sight" is also a reminder,for us to walk alive in the spirit and work for HIM,and not be dead by doing nothing.

hope this makes sense hee hee=P
 

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ok,here is where i jump in since i named myself after that very verse LOL...to me that verse means different things:
1) it means we walk trusting in GOD.Not losing focus because of the distractions of this world:problems,drama,issues,nightmares,diseases,such things.we walk with the Spirit of faith..
2)Hebrews 11:1 "faith is the substance of things hoped for,the evidence of things unseen" taking that apart, if we walk by believing in GOD, we have total focus on HIM and we have a strong relationship with HIM.we cant see him,but we sure do believe HE lives.and "things hoped for" isn't only materialistic things,it's more of spiritual needs.and we feel HIS holy spirit and presence,see HIS miracles,hear HIS voice,posses Gifts of the Spirit,that's the evidence. so the verse "we walk by faith and not by sight" will mean we walk like GOD and walk with HIM.
3)there is a verse that says "faith without works is dead" i believe that is in hebrews as well,at the moment im quiet drowsy haha ....but anyway...keeping that verse in mind,we see how if we dont work toward our faith,our faith is dead.so we are,in a sense,dead if we lack faith.so...that verse "we walk by faith and not by sight" is also a reminder,for us to walk alive in the spirit and work for HIM,and not be dead by doing nothing.

hope this makes sense hee hee=P
I understand what you are saying. Sleep well.
 

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Hebrews 11:1
Now faith is the substance of thing hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
There is alot in that chapter in Hebrews about faith. Do you think any of those stories of OT saints had anything to do with 'the evidence of things not seen'? When you think of evidence you usually think of something tangible that can be seen or defined in some way. But the evidence of faith here is not seen.
 
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thanks i did sleep well,this time my insomnia didnt get in the way!:) im not sure i understand your question though
 

pickles

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Thank you for your imput on the faith part. What do you think the 'sight' part of that verse refers to?
To compleat my answer before. We do not see with our eyes but with our spirit. We see with our spirit because of faith. I wish I had the words to better explain. It would be like trying to describe God. It would be like trying to hold the mind of God, it is his mind that holds me. I would be blind without Jesus but by faith in him I know that he has my right hand and by this faith I trust his eyes to see for me. I liken it to my being a small child lost in the world with no idea where I am or where to go . All I know is if I hold tightly to Jesus's hand I am safe and will go where I am suposed to be. God bless, pickles
 

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To compleat my answer before. We do not see with our eyes but with our spirit. We see with our spirit because of faith. I wish I had the words to better explain. It would be like trying to describe God. It would be like trying to hold the mind of God, it is his mind that holds me. I would be blind without Jesus but by faith in him I know that he has my right hand and by this faith I trust his eyes to see for me. I liken it to my being a small child lost in the world with no idea where I am or where to go . All I know is if I hold tightly to Jesus's hand I am safe and will go where I am suposed to be. God bless, pickles
I love your explanation. It encourages us to have the faith of a child and that is how we enter the kingdom of God (Mk 10:15). That is our first love because we trusted Him completely with our first steps of faith. The word picture you have drawn stirs up the believer to walk in Christ Jesus the same way we recieved Him (Col 2:6) and to not be removed from the simplicity that is in Christ (2Cor 11:3).
 

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having faith is to keep on believing even when it seems like nothing is working.one has to hoping for the best is yet to come i have being there many times it is not easy but after it is worth it for our faith and trust in God grows and our character changes to more like our lord.
 

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having faith is to keep on believing even when it seems like nothing is working.one has to hoping for the best is yet to come i have being there many times it is not easy but after it is worth it for our faith and trust in God grows and our character changes to more like our lord.

...'having faith is to keep on believing even when it seems like nothing is working'...

You have illustrated (Heb 11) in a nutshell. Do you remember the story in (Mt 14:22-31) when the disciples were in the boat and the winds began to toss them about and Jesus came unto them walking on the sea. Peter ask the LORD to bid him to come and began to walk on the water until he saw the winds become boisterous, he became afraid and began to sink (v/30). But immediately Jesus stretched forth His hand and caught him saying, 'O thou of little faith, wherefore didst thou doubt' (v/31). Peter went from faith to sight in a split second because of doubt. That is how easy it is to be walking by faith and then something happens and we go right into sight instead of 'keep on believing'. The instant that Peter took his eyes off of Christ he began to sink, but Jesus recued him immediately just the same. Jesus was trying to develop character in Peter through faith in who He is. Peter had a liitle faith but not enough to continue. When the winds and storms of life come against our faith, will we keep on believing and keep our eye upon Christ or will we become occupied with the storm or circumstances around us?
 
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what i understand about this quote is that faith is something that we must always follow and we must not always believe in what we just only see, it could lead us to wrong path.
 
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This quote means things aren't always as they appear and therefore we trust in the guidance of the Holy Spirit rather than trust what we see with our eyes.
 
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2 Cor5:7 'For we walk by faith and not by sight'

With faith being so important to the believer, what you have to say is very important. What does that verse mean to you personally?
2 Corinthians 5:

1For we know that if our earthly house of this tabernacle were dissolved, we have a building of God, an house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens.
2For in this we groan, earnestly desiring to be clothed upon with our house which is from heaven:
3If so be that being clothed we shall not be found naked.
4For we that are in this tabernacle do groan, being burdened: not for that we would be unclothed, but clothed upon, that mortality might be swallowed up of life.
5Now he that hath wrought us for the selfsame thing is God, who also hath given unto us the earnest of the Spirit.
6Therefore we are always confident, knowing that, whilst we are at home in the body, we are absent from the Lord:
7(For we walk by faith, not by sight:)
8We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.
9Wherefore we labour, that, whether present or absent, we may be accepted of him.
10For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.
11Knowing therefore the terror of the Lord, we persuade men; but we are made manifest unto God; and I trust also are made manifest in your consciences. 12For we commend not ourselves again unto you, but give you occasion to glory on our behalf, that ye may have somewhat to answer them which glory in appearance, and not in heart.

The oddity of verse 12 is in opposition to verse 7 when those that use verse 7 to imply "feeling the Holy Spirit and His Presence,seeing miracles that Presence brings, and from that in hearing the voice, possessing Gifts of the Spirit as that's the evidence," for walking by faith. There are no evidence when one walks by faith for then that would be by sight.

I know that signs will follow the believers, but oftentimes than not, believers use signs to follow after. The only reasons Jesus said signs will follow after the believers is that the believers are walking by faith and not by sight. To follow after signs is to walk by sight. That is why believers are to preach the Gospel of Jesus Christ... not the signs... nor are they to glory in themselves in the signs for they are to glory in the Lord. His resurrection is the only "sign" a believer shall be given, and that being said, they are not seeking it because they are already believers, but other signs are for the unbelievers.

And yet.. what we see today is a roundhouse punch that those that do not have these signs are dead, and yet the promise for all those that believe in His name is that they shall have life.

John 20:31But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.

1 John 5:13These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.

So it is by those verse above, we walk by faith and not by sight.
 

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Concerning our walk of faith or sight how do the following verses help us understand that?

2Cor 4:18 'While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal'.

Heb 11:1 'Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen'.
 
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Concerning our walk of faith or sight how do the following verses help us understand that?

2Cor 4:18 'While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal'.

Heb 11:1 'Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen'.
In regards to the OP verses... our inheritance in the Kingdom of God... to be clothed in immortality of that which we cann see because of being in our present state of mortality.
 
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by faith i live and move and have my being ,i mean this literally without my faith in God i have NO hope and no desire to exist..life would b meaningless,worthless...
Amen CMW! We are sinners in need of a saviour, without Him there is no hope.
 
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I think a lot of people tend to take this scripture out of context, especially those who tend to be a little critical of Charismatics. However, I'll be the first to admit that there are many charismatic circles who seem to look for manifestations and in doing so, often times settle for cheap manifestations that any human can produce rather a true supernatural manifestation that could only come from the hand of God himself.
 
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