Some things about the law that need explaining.

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eternally-gratefull

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Guojing said:
The BOC was formed because the nation Israel has fallen (Romans 11:11)

The Body of Christ is not Israel because God is not done with the nation Israel yet.
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What? Where do you come up with this?

the body of Christ started with Adam and Eve!
 
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ewq1938 said:
The body of Christ began when the ministry of Christ began with the first disciples.
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The body of Christ started in Gen 3: 15 when pre-incarnat Christ spoke of a future redeemer, and was symbolized by the animals who were sacrificed to cover the nakedness (sin) of Adam and Eve.
 
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Guojing said:
The Body of Christ was a mystery revealed to Paul after Israel fell in Acts 7.

Since the nation Israel fell, all Jews and gentiles are now saved thru the body of Christ thru the gospel of the grace of God that was revealed to Paul.

So in that sense, it is not strictly gentiles. But then again, Israel was declared uncircumcised by the Holy Spirit in Acts 7:51, so in another sense, Jew and gentiles can be considered equally uncircumcised before salvation since Acts 7.
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All Jew and gentile were always saved by faith. From the beginning of time
 
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Guojing said:
Romans 10:1

Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved.

Try replacing the bolded term with BOC and see whether it still makes sense to you
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This is Paul crying about his nation and his brothers blood who have rejected Christ,

we should all hope for that,
 
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Guojing said:
Yes, the cross is where we are reconciled with God, no one is denying that.
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Not only is, but all men women and children fro the beginning of time

jesus just did not die for the NT saints,
 
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Guojing said:
Seems there are many different definitions of the term "Body of Christ".

I will stick to one that Paul used.
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Paul did not say it was just them.

you interpret the word to fit your theology,

try interpreting the word to fit Gods thinking, and then fit your theology to that.

it’s odd you claim another member to be a protagonist just because he does not agree with you. Sometimes you need to just look in a mirror
 
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eternally-gratefull said:
Paul did not say it was just them.

you interpret the word to fit your theology,

try interpreting the word to fit Gods thinking, and then fit your theology to that.

it’s odd you claim another member to be a protagonist just because he does not agree with you. Sometimes you need to just look in a mirror
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You are free to think the boc began in genesis 3 if you prefer.
 
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Guojing said:
No one is saying otherwise.
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The body of Christ is all people who Christ died for. when he presents us all to the father, he will present us all. Ot just the NT saints
 
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eternally-gratefull said:
The body of Christ is all people who Christ died for. when he presents us all to the father, he will present us all. Ot just the NT saints
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Do you believe in the pre trib rapture of the body of Christ, before God deals with the nation Israel once again?
 
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posthuman said: The three most truthful words of all words within all the pages....we need help!
Thank you! I had to comment on this one... :)
 
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Guojing said:
Do you believe in the pre trib rapture of the body of Christ, before God deals with the nation Israel once again?
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That has no bearing on who the body of Christ is
 
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Guojing said:
So that I can be clear whether you distinguish between them, at all.

But if you don’t want answer, that is fine too.
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not to answer for e.g., but please allow me to jump in.


as far as a pre trib rapture, no i do not.

but, i have no issue with anyone that does, because i understand why they do.
 
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Magenta said:
Through the New Covenant. Are you under it, or not? Your responses make me wonder.
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Do you regard yourself belonging to either the house of Israel or Judah, where the new covenant will be made with? (Hebrews 8:8)
 
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gb9 said:
not to answer for e.g., but please allow me to jump in.


as far as a pre trib rapture, no i do not.

but, i have no issue with anyone that does, because i understand why they do.
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If one believes the body of Christ is equivalent to Israel, then I understand why they do not.

Does that happen be your doctrine too?
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Guojing said:
So that I can be clear whether you distinguish between them, at all.

But if you don’t want answer, that is fine too.
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That to vast a topic

some believe only the Church will be raptured

others believe everyone will be raptured

so like I said, it’s a non issue.

as for me, I am undecided when the rapture will occur, some people in here have got me to question my view so I am undecided. although I do believe it will occur
 
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Guojing said:
Do you regard yourself belonging to either the house of Israel or Judah, where the new covenant will be made with? (Hebrews 8:8)
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You do not make a doctrine based on one verse.
 
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