Does anyone know what the double slit experiment is? It might be pointing out that there is something greater than us.

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T_Laurich

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the resonance in which the frequency is stays the same according to the medium in which it is in.

Blue light is blue light everywhere unless interacted by another force.
 

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https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2 Corinthians 5:21&version=ESV
2 Corinthians 5:21

For our sake he made him to be sin who knew no sin, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God.

When it says "to be sin", could it mean physical?
No, because if that is true, then 1 John 3:5 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.

if your theory is true, 1 John 3:5 is by definition wrong.


Christ was sinless, not a single sin found in Him. He became sin on the Cross at which point in time His perfect life was used as payment for our imperfect lives. (Hebrews 9:22)

This is also why we used Lambs for sacrifice as it was an animal that was sinless and perfect and yet was needed to show an example of what the payment of sin is.

Also note, when they chose the lamb it had to look perfect as well, this is another shadowing showing that Christ was perfect not only in His generations, but in the flesh.
 

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You have to become physical sin to take it away.
If sin was the physical then it would not transfer with us when we die. Death would be the only punishment and there would be no need for an eternal punishment.

But since sin transfers with us, we can see it is Metaphysical
 
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For our sake he made him to be sin

He stared out on earth made of sin. He made him of this fallen reality.
 

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For our sake he made him to be sin

He stared out on earth made of sin. He made him of this fallen reality.
No, Christ was made in this reality, not out of it.

Adam was created by Dust.

All men come from Adam unless they are Nephlim or Jesus.

Jesus descends straight from God Himself through the Holy Spirit, Jesus is perfect in his generations, ways, everything.
 

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For our sake he made him to be sin
On the cross.

Let's assume you are correct, that sin is being physical.

Why is Satan the father of Sin, yet in the throne room of God? That is contradictory to your philosophy.
 
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Why can't a fallen angel be physical? Uhh, because that's not how angels work.
 
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Oh, I thought you had a spelling mistake. I said angels can't be physical.
 
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I see you angle now. Umm, yeah, I'm sticking with humans are different than angels.

And I never said "only"
 

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I see you angle now. Umm, yeah, I'm sticking with humans are different than angels.

And I never said "only"
So if satan is the father of lies, and our lies have banished us to the physical realm, why is Satan metaphysical.

That is one being punished for sin and another not being punished without cause.
 

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Nextly why does the Bible describe our inheritance of a new earth as a 4 dimensional physical plane and not metaphysical
 

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I see you angle now. Umm, yeah, I'm sticking with humans are different than angels.

And I never said "only"
Maybe not, but you have juxtapositioned the physical against the spiritual and said one is sin and the other is not... that anything physical is disordered with entropy, that just being here is sin, even that energy is sin. So God in your view is sin. There's no escaping that conclusion.

And you want to believe you can wake half the world with your vain philosophy.

Totally un-Biblical view. People come to faith by hearing and believing the gospel.
 

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You either get an interference pattern or you don't.
When you don't, the wave collapsed into our fallen reality of decoherence.
When you do, the wave remained coherent until the final panel.
um, no --

first of all, coherence/decohernence is just a comparison between any two things. the single-slit & double slit experiments can be performed with individual photons and you still get either particle like or wave-like behavior depending on if the photon is observed or not. a single photon does not have coherence properties because coherence is a measure of two or more things; it's nonsensical to speak of an individual thing having definite phase difference with itself. if you insist on using coherence to describe an individual then all things are coherent because all things are in definite phase with themselves at all times.

second of all the single & double slit experiments are independent of coherence ((setting aside for now the weirdness of entangled pairs and sending one of them through a slit while you observe the other)). particle vs wavelike behavior in the slit experiments depends on a conscious observer, not definite phase difference with another entity over a time interval.

you can have a coherent set of photons and send them through a slit and get interference patterns.
you can have a coherent set of photons and send them through a slit and not get interference patterns.
the difference is observation.

i think you are mixing the common English definition of the word 'coherent' meaning 'understandable, logical, consistent' with the modern physics jargon 'coherence'
they're not the same thing.

Joe, where did you learn about quantum physics?