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oyster67

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Could essence also be a flavor or smell? I think there is room for different perceptions of definitions of essences?:giggle:
 

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"Essence" usually denotes something immaterial. We are born of the flesh. Flesh is not immaterial.
It is true that the soulish eternal essence is the only one that permanently defines us for ever and ever. It is our "truest essence", fer shur.

Might 'essence' be a short way of sayin' "essencial component"?
 

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Maybe we be beatin' a donkey dead?:confused:
 
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taylorswiftfan

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hello TMS

do you believe that angels have physical bodies ???
 

TMS

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The word in the old testament that is translated SOUL is nephesh which means a breathing creature.
The word in the mew testament that is translated SOUL is psuche which means breath. Life..
The new age has succeeded in their agender to introduce the their corrupt thinking into our world today.
Gen 3:4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
Satan is telling the same lie today in the form of "The soul lives forever"
Deu 18:10 There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch, 18:11 Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer. 18:12 For all that do these things are an abomination unto the LORD: and because of these abominations the LORD thy God doth drive them out from before thee.
Talking with familiar spirits is an abomination
 
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taylorswiftfan

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Essence is what we are. Consciousness is our perceiving.
if you were to lose the ability to perceive things but still be able to think about what you have perceived in the past, wouldn't consciousness still exist ???
 

oyster67

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if you were to lose the ability to perceive things but still be able to think about what you have perceived in the past, wouldn't consciousness still exist ???
Sure, lots of people lose things like taste and smell when they get sick. Doesn't mean they have lost consciousness.
 
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taylorswiftfan

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Sure, lots of people lose things like taste and smell when they get sick. Doesn't mean they have lost consciousness.
I meant in that post, the complete loss of all sensory perception not just merely the loss of some sensory perception
 

TMS

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We are spirit, soul and body.....

1 Thessalonians 5:23 King James Version (KJV)
23 And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Hebrews 10:38-39 King James Version (KJV)
38 Now the just shall live by faith: but if any man draw back, my soul shall have no pleasure in him.

39 But we are not of them who draw back unto perdition; but of them that believe to the saving of the soul.
It seems you didn't read the whole post, The bible doesn't contradict itself, and the meaning of Spirit Soul and Body in Greek, is Air breath and body which confirms what i was saying.

The teaching that the soul lives separate from the body and lives for ever is new age philosophy and the bible doesn't support it. Life comes from God and only God is immortal. We receive life from God and when we die it returns to God.
Eze 18:20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die.

Gen 3:22 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:
Gen 3:23 Therefore the LORD God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken.
Gen 3:24 So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.

God made previsions to stop us from living for ever. our soul does not live after death. that is the lie of Satan.
 

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Let me clarify myself... above. Our soul does not live after death, until we are raise in the resurrections. With Jesus we can live again after death but not until life is given to us by Jesus and we become living souls again.
 
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would that mean that the person is a dummy ?
yes

I directed the post to VickyK because she said that "consciousness is our perceiving" and I disagree with that claim because we know that even without perception, consciousness would still exist if thinking occurs
 

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The New Age beliefs are very Universal, they believe that all paths lead to God.
It's Impossible to narrow down, and with so many beliefs each new Ager picks and chooses whatever best fits his appetite. It's really a Have-It-Your-Way religion – thus its modern appeal.
They fault Christians for being intolerant and narrow-minded. But God's word anticipates this: Mat 7:13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
They also believe that -- Man is God, -- all things are one, -- God is in everything.
Gen 3:1 Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden? (every tree is good)
Gen 3:4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: (you don't die)
Gen 3:5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil. (you'll be God)

Teaching that the soul lives forever even when your not saved is Satans tactic today, don't fall for it a second time.