Repentance is the Gift Of God !

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throughfaith

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brightfame52 said:
Its reasonable to expect all whom God gives repentance to, to repent, and thats it. They whome He gives it to will repent.
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So then we are back to ALL Jews and Gentiles being saved then according to your logic? Anyone reading should plainly read ' Jews ' ....' Gentiles ' . There is no ' some ' Jews or ' some Gentiles . There is no hint at this in the text or around the text . The whole point of the book is the transition from Jew to ' the body '
 
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Repentance is part of faith. You cannot separate the two.

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brightfame52 said:
Its reasonable to expect all whom God gives repentance to, to repent, and thats it. They whome He gives it to will repent.
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Repentance is definitely a result of a new heart in the believer. It's a free gift from God, even though its a gift I'm still responsible. If God had never granted it to me it would never of happened. And whats more amazing about this is that those who repent are in the one body, the one church - Jews and gentiles alike all in Christ.



--- and saying, “The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand. Repent, and believe in the gospel.” (Mark 1:15)


--- Jesus answered him, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the kingdom of God.” (John 3:3)


And just to show this is one message, one gospel for all here is Paul He taught the same things as Jesus.


---- They arranged to meet Paul on a certain day, and came in even larger numbers to the place where he was staying. He witnessed to them from morning till evening, explaining about the kingdom of God, and from the Law of Moses and from the Prophets he tried to persuade them about Jesus.


---- “Now I know that none of you among whom I have gone about preaching the kingdom will ever see me again.
 
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phil36 said:
Repentance is definitely a result of a new heart in the believer. It's a free gift from God, even though its a gift I'm still responsible. If God had never granted it to me it would never of happened. And whats more amazing about this is that those who repent are in the one body, the one church - Jews and gentiles alike all in Christ.



--- and saying, “The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand. Repent, and believe in the gospel.” (Mark 1:15)


--- Jesus answered him, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the kingdom of God.” (John 3:3)


And just to show this is one message, one gospel for all here is Paul He taught the same things as Jesus.


---- They arranged to meet Paul on a certain day, and came in even larger numbers to the place where he was staying. He witnessed to them from morning till evening, explaining about the kingdom of God, and from the Law of Moses and from the Prophets he tried to persuade them about Jesus.


---- “Now I know that none of you among whom I have gone about preaching the kingdom will ever see me again.
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Mark 1.15 can't possibly be referring what we believe today . The gospel had not happened until mathew 27 .
 
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--- and saying, “The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand. Repent, and believe in the gospel.” (Mark 1:15)


--- Jesus answered him, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the kingdom of God.” (John 3:3)


And just to show this is one message, one gospel for all here is Paul He taught the same things as Jesus.


---- They arranged to meet Paul on a certain day, and came in even larger numbers to the place where he was staying. He witnessed to them from morning till evening, explaining about the kingdom of God, and from the Law of Moses and from the Prophets he tried to persuade them about Jesus.


---- “Now I know that none of you among whom I have gone about preaching the kingdom will ever see me again.
 
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throughfaith said:
Mark 1.15 can't possibly be referring what we believe today . The gospel had not happened until mathew 27 .
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"Wouldn't you rather believe what it SAYS . " (your own words).
 
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throughfaith said:
So then we are back to ALL Jews and Gentiles being saved then according to your logic? Anyone reading should plainly read ' Jews ' ....' Gentiles ' . There is no ' some ' Jews or ' some Gentiles . There is no hint at this in the text or around the text . The whole point of the book is the transition from Jew to ' the body '
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You sound confused sir.
 
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phil36 said:
Repentance is definitely a result of a new heart in the believer. It's a free gift from God, even though its a gift I'm still responsible. If God had never granted it to me it would never of happened. And whats more amazing about this is that those who repent are in the one body, the one church - Jews and gentiles alike all in Christ.



--- and saying, “The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand. Repent, and believe in the gospel.” (Mark 1:15)


--- Jesus answered him, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the kingdom of God.” (John 3:3)


And just to show this is one message, one gospel for all here is Paul He taught the same things as Jesus.


---- They arranged to meet Paul on a certain day, and came in even larger numbers to the place where he was staying. He witnessed to them from morning till evening, explaining about the kingdom of God, and from the Law of Moses and from the Prophets he tried to persuade them about Jesus.


---- “Now I know that none of you among whom I have gone about preaching the kingdom will ever see me again.
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Those who God gives repentance repent,
 
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brightfame52 said:
You sound confused sir.
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Every calvinist is confused. There commonly saved by the Gospel, then they re write their experiences in light of this new doctrine they stumble upon . Then they become an avatar for the system and ideologically possessed. " John 6 " " Draw " Elect " , " chosen " , given " , pieces of eight " Scraww scraww!!
 
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brightfame52 said:
Man rejects God naturally. Man by nature is at enmity against God Rom 8

7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
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God tells us in His Word that the wicked have the capability of turning from their evil ways:

Ezekiel 33:11 Say unto them, As I live, saith the Lord GOD, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live: turn ye, turn ye from your evil ways; for why will ye die ...


 
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brightfame52 said:
No it doesnt mean that. It means some gentiles have been given repentance.
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If it meant some , it would say some. God can have is word made clear. He really can and did . I believe we have clarity, not riddles and cryptic messages.
 
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brightfame52 said:
It is given to them. If it is not given they cannot and will not repent.
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Your presupposition is ' Regeneration precedes faith ' what you are now immune to is seeing the bible in any other light . This is why the bible warns not to be taken captive by philosophy ect. It colours the way you approach scripture.
 
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