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The diciples prayer .
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So how do you conclude they are always thinking about gentiles in those verses?
I think you are very much in error with all your limitations you put on the teachings of the Lord, including your idea of the Lord not being eternal with eternal teachings, we must always limit His teachings by time.
I also feel you err when you discount all scripture instructing us about prayer with your statement "there are no rules or formulas", even though calling God's guidance "rules and formulas" distorts His guidance.
I've never said Jesus is not ' eternal ' . I believe all scripture is from God . All of it .
Yes that too . When you here them saying " Our Father ...ect like a mantra you know there's something wrong .
I am a born again child of God , and I love the LORDS prayer...
It is beautiful when one prays it slowly , collecting the words line by line , infact , I would repeat it myself through out my days , just the fact I could say " Our Father " , and it still does bring me to tears this day...
It was His example of prayer...
And I know what beauty it brings out from those who say the Lords prayer , even if He was teaching His Disciples , and I do not for one second believe that my Lord would have any problem of any of His children praying this prayer Amen...
We agree. But then I don't understand that you can say "The teaching of ' one in christ ' happens after the resurrection. Not before. Ifn;t this saying you believe that teaching of the Lord change by when they are written?
Scripture tells us some are made obsolete, so such as the need for fleshly circumcision is obsolete, but the law of circumcision of the heart never changed.
We know the blood used for forgiveness was a shadow of Christ so we must not use the shadow of Christ was Christ came, but the law of blood on the altar required, not obedience, stayed the same.
God is eternal, and His teachings are eternal.
Jesus taught His disciples how to pray. In the disciples prayer He instructed them to pray this and in it were included the 6 disciplines in the prayer.
Worship- our Father who art in heaven.....
intercession- thy kingdom come....
provision- give us this day....
forgiveness- our trespasses.....
deliverance- us from the evil one....
praise- for thine is the Kingdom......
Worship- our Father who art in heaven.....
intercession- thy kingdom come....
provision- give us this day....
forgiveness- our trespasses.....
deliverance- us from the evil one....
praise- for thine is the Kingdom......
Please give us the scriptures that could bring you to this conclusion.
When a remnant of Jews returned to Israel from Babylon, an assembly of Jewish scholars met to bring back the words of the Lord. This assembly put together a prayer that is still part of Jewish culture today but not in our scripture, except the Jews of today added to it. The Lord's prayer that Christ gave us as a model for prayer is a condensation of this prayer. Christ went to synagogue, and they prayed this prayer as it originally was in the synagogue.