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Not one verse in Scripture calls for the establishment of a "doctrinal safe space" - to the contrary, it says we are to "earnestly contend for the faith once deliverd to the saints."

And this is not a discussion about Bible Prophecy. This is a discussion, what news from the Archaeological Digs, are pertinent, and what the Sanhedrin is preparing to do about the preparation, so you can invite yourself out of this thread.
In the Christian spirit of love and with the directive to "expose the unfruitful works of darkness", some of us believe those who think a rebuilt temple in Jerusalem is of prophetic significance operate under an extremely dangerous satanic 16th century Jesuit error -- which was previously unknown to the world until the Protestant Reformation identified the Antichrist from Scripture as the Papacy, and the Papacy was forced to respond with false Jesuit interpretations of Bible prophecy whereby the accusations of the Protestant Reformers might be deflected to the past (Jesuit priest Alcazar's "Jesuit Preterism"), to the future (Jesuit priest Ribera's "Jesuit Futurism" with its rebuilt Jerusalem temple), anywhere but at them.

Adherents of these ideas, we believe, are setting themselves up for a deception so sinister that if it were possible, the very elect would be deceived...and you are essentially asking witnesses to a drowning to stand there with life preservers and do nothing.

The "Christian News Forum" is the appropriate place for the type of "echo chamber" desired for discussing "Christ's rebuilt temple", but since it is in "Bible Discussion Forum" there are others who might be deceived by these ideas as "Biblical" and need to hear the other side of the story.

It would be best to have this thread moved to the "Christian News Forum". Thank you and God bless.

Now I remember I why I put you on me INGORE LIST, SORRY, but you are going back on the IGNORE LIST.
 

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The Sanhedrin is STILL looking at the WRONG site to build the TEMPLE. They are IGNORING the evidence that the Archaeological teams are uncovering. IT BELONGS IN THE CITY OF DAVID ON THE OPHEL's Southwest corner.

 

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The Sanhedrin is STILL looking at the WRONG site to build the TEMPLE. They are IGNORING the evidence that the Archaeological teams are uncovering. IT BELONGS IN THE CITY OF DAVID ON THE OPHEL's Southwest corner.

No.

Read:

2 Chronicles 5

5 Thus all the work that Solomon made for the house of the Lord was finished. And Solomon brought in all the things that David is father had dedicated; and the silver, and the gold, and all the instruments put he among the treasures of the house of God.

2 Then Solomon assembled the elders of Israel and all the heads of the tribes, the chief of the fathers of the children of srael, unto Jerusalem to bring up the ark of the covenant of the Lord out of the City of David, which is Zion.

So the ark was brought OUT OF the city of David and brought to Mt. Moriah when the Temple was. If the Temple was in the City of David then the text would not have said "brought OUT of the City of David."

I strongly urge you to watch this two part series on the Temple location. You will change your mind. It is strongly convincing.



 

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No.

Read:

2 Chronicles 5

5 Thus all the work that Solomon made for the house of the Lord was finished. And Solomon brought in all the things that David is father had dedicated; and the silver, and the gold, and all the instruments put he among the treasures of the house of God.

2 Then Solomon assembled the elders of Israel and all the heads of the tribes, the chief of the fathers of the children of srael, unto Jerusalem to bring up the ark of the covenant of the Lord out of the City of David, which is Zion.

So the ark was brought OUT OF the city of David and brought to Mt. Moriah when the Temple was. If the Temple was in the City of David then the text would not have said "brought OUT of the City of David."

I strongly urge you to watch this two part series on the Temple location. You will change your mind. It is strongly convincing.



You had better look at all that I wrote, and the Archaeological evidence, NO FLAT PLACE on the Bedrock for a Large THRESHING FLOOR, Mt. Moriah was the NAME of the Entire RIDGE, all the Videos that I posts, and JOSEPHUS's account before you even declare this video is REMOTELY the Truth.

The City of David IS ANCIENT JERUSALEM, it original ended on the north, just below the OPHEL. The Temple was built just on the Southwest Corner of the OPHEL. Which was outside the CITY OF DAVID, back to the South Side of the TEMPLE.

Jeremiah 26:18 (HCSB)
18 “Micah the Moreshite prophesied in the days of Hezekiah king of Judah and said to all the people of Judah, ‘This is what the LORD of Hosts says: Zion will be plowed like a field, Jerusalem will become ruins, and the temple mount a forested hill.’



Same Forested Hill Today:



Parts of ZION will a Plowed Fields, but the ground of the TEMPLE MOUNT is now identify as a Forested Hill. That describes the OPHEL, not what they call the single peak of Mt. Moriah. HOWEVER, Mount Moriah was the name of the ENTIRE RIGHT from north of the Dome of the Rock, all the way South to beyond the Pool of Siloam. The TRUE Mt. ZION was in the middle of that RIDGE.

And were is it exactly located? Josephus the historian, will answer that:

QUOTE:
Book 8, Chapter 5, Section 2:
2. This house was a large and curious building, and was supported by many pillars
, which Solomon built to contain a multitnde for hearing causes, and taking cognizance of suits. It was sufficiently capacious to contain a great body of men, who would come together to have their causes determined. It was a hundred cubits long, and fifty broad, and thirty high, supported by quadrangular pillars, which were all of cedar; but its roof was according to the Corinthian order, with folding doors, and their adjoining pillars of equal magnitude, each fluted with three cavities; which building as at once firm, and very ornamental. There was also another house so ordered, that its entire breadth was placed in the middle; it was quadrangular, and its breadth was thirty cubits,
having a temple over against it,
raised upon massy pillars; in which temple there was a large and very glorious room, wherein the king sat in judgment. To this was joined another house that was built for his queen. . . .
The Works of Flavius Josephus. :END QUOTE

The Trees on TOP near the Dome of the Rock, were mostly planted by JEWS, in the last several Decades.

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TWO TREES. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * I see only 4 trees inside this wall in this Picture. AND 4 Trees from this side too.

NOT Exactly "the temple mount a forested hill." of Jer. 26:18.
 

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You had better look at all that I wrote, and the Archaeological evidence, NO FLAT PLACE on the Bedrock for a Large THRESHING FLOOR, Mt. Moriah was the NAME of the Entire RIDGE, all the Videos that I posts, and JOSEPHUS's account before you even declare this video is REMOTELY the Truth.

The City of David IS ANCIENT JERUSALEM, it original ended on the north, just below the OPHEL. The Temple was built just on the Southwest Corner of the OPHEL. Which was outside the CITY OF DAVID, back to the South Side of the TEMPLE.

Jeremiah 26:18 (HCSB)
18 “Micah the Moreshite prophesied in the days of Hezekiah king of Judah and said to all the people of Judah, ‘This is what the LORD of Hosts says: Zion will be plowed like a field, Jerusalem will become ruins, and the temple mount a forested hill.’



Same Forested Hill Today:



Parts of ZION will a Plowed Fields, but the ground of the TEMPLE MOUNT is now identify as a Forested Hill. That describes the OPHEL, not what they call the single peak of Mt. Moriah. HOWEVER, Mount Moriah was the name of the ENTIRE RIGHT from north of the Dome of the Rock, all the way South to beyond the Pool of Siloam. The TRUE Mt. ZION was in the middle of that RIDGE.

And were is it exactly located? Josephus the historian, will answer that:

QUOTE:
Book 8, Chapter 5, Section 2:
2. This house was a large and curious building, and was supported by many pillars
, which Solomon built to contain a multitnde for hearing causes, and taking cognizance of suits. It was sufficiently capacious to contain a great body of men, who would come together to have their causes determined. It was a hundred cubits long, and fifty broad, and thirty high, supported by quadrangular pillars, which were all of cedar; but its roof was according to the Corinthian order, with folding doors, and their adjoining pillars of equal magnitude, each fluted with three cavities; which building as at once firm, and very ornamental. There was also another house so ordered, that its entire breadth was placed in the middle; it was quadrangular, and its breadth was thirty cubits,
having a temple over against it,
raised upon massy pillars; in which temple there was a large and very glorious room, wherein the king sat in judgment. To this was joined another house that was built for his queen. . . .
The Works of Flavius Josephus. :END QUOTE

The Trees on TOP near the Dome of the Rock, were mostly planted by JEWS, in the last several Decades.

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TWO TREES. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * I see only 4 trees inside this wall in this Picture. AND 4 Trees from this side too.

NOT Exactly "the temple mount a forested hill." of Jer. 26:18.
I'll have to have a good look at your past posts about this, brother. When I have time I will research what you claim.

But the videos I watched and posted just before your reply were very convincing to me.
 

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I'll have to have a good look at your past posts about this, brother. When I have time I will research what you claim.

But the videos I watched and posted just before your reply were very convincing to me.
Here is a map that shows that Mt. Moriah was a RIDGE between North of the Dome of the Rock - all the ways past the Pool of Siloam.
And the REAL Mt. Zion was a single Peak in the middle of Mt. Moriah.

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Ancient Jerusalem was the Southern Half below the Ophel.


Do you see this artist showed Ancient Jerusalem. In the Givati Parking Lot they have dug down to the level of the King David's Palace.
That is the Large building just before the TWO GUARD TOWERS at the North Gate of the City. King Solomon would build the Temple on the OPHEL, which is the large flat top area just beyond the TOWERS, (very light TAN with squiggly lines that look like writings,) and the THRESHING FLOOR of Ornan the Jebusite, that King David BOUGHT. That is Mt. ZION's single Peak or HILL, where King Solomon would build a TEMPLE to GOD, in the exact same place a King David had his TABERNACLE. The reason the Jewish Sanhedrin did not recognize it in 1212 A.D. when they NAMED the so called TEMPLE MOUNT; is Prince Simon Bar Kokhba in 132 A.D., wanted the defiled Bedrock removed, (the ROMANS built a Temple to Jupiter on that site), in Preparation to Build the Third Temple. Therefore Mt. ZION was Lowered at least 2 meters of more, and the current JEWISH SANHEDRIN forgot all about Prince Simon's 3 years of reign. So it took over two years to remove all the defiled Bedrock; and in 135 A.D. Prince Simon was Killed in battle, when 12 Legions counter attacked Jerusalem. Thus no TEMPLE was built. As you can see at the Time of KING DAVID and KING SOLOMON, nothing was on that higher hill to the North. Herod built that FORTRESS ANTONIA, there to house the ROMAN TENTH LEGION of nearly 10,000 Troops and Support Staff.

1 Chronicles 21:15-30 (ESV)
15 And God sent the angel to Jerusalem to destroy it, but as he was about to destroy it, the LORD saw, and he relented from the calamity. And he said to the angel who was working destruction, “It is enough; now stay your hand.” And the angel of the LORD was standing by the threshing floor of Ornan the Jebusite.
16 And David lifted his eyes and saw the angel of the LORD standing between earth and heaven, and in his hand a drawn sword stretched out over Jerusalem. Then David and the elders, clothed in sackcloth, fell upon their faces.
17 And David said to God, “Was it not I who gave command to number the people? It is I who have sinned and done great evil. But these sheep, what have they done? Please let your hand, O LORD my God, be against me and against my father’s house. But do not let the plague be on your people.”
18 Now the angel of the LORD had commanded Gad to say to David that David should go up and raise an altar to the LORD on the threshing floor of Ornan the Jebusite.
19 So David went up at Gad’s word, which he had spoken in the name of the LORD.
20 Now Ornan was threshing wheat. He turned and saw the angel, and his four sons who were with him hid themselves.
21 As David came to Ornan, Ornan looked and saw David and went out from the threshing floor and paid homage to David with his face to the ground.
22 And David said to Ornan, “Give me the site of the threshing floor that I may build on it an altar to the LORD—give it to me at its full price—that the plague may be averted from the people.”
23 Then Ornan said to David, “Take it, and let my lord the king do what seems good to him. See, I give the oxen for burnt offerings and the threshing sledges for the wood and the wheat for a grain offering; I give it all.”
24 But King David said to Ornan, “No, but I will buy them for the full price. I will not take for the LORD what is yours, nor offer burnt offerings that cost me nothing.”
25 So David paid Ornan 600 shekels of gold by weight for the site.
26 And David built there an altar to the LORD and presented burnt offerings and peace offerings and called on the LORD, and the LORD answered him with fire from heaven upon the altar of burnt offering.
27 Then the LORD commanded the angel, and he put his sword back into its sheath.
28 At that time, when David saw that the LORD had answered him at the threshing floor of Ornan the Jebusite, he sacrificed there.
29 For the tabernacle of the LORD, which Moses had made in the wilderness, and the altar of burnt offering were at that time in the high place at Gibeon,
30 but David could not go before it to inquire of God, for he was afraid of the sword of the angel of the LORD.

2 Chronicles 3:1 (ASV)
1 Then Solomon began to build the house of Jehovah at Jerusalem on mount Moriah, where Jehovah appeared unto David his father, which he made ready in the place that David had appointed, in the threshing-floor of Ornan the Jebusite.

In modern times, almost no one thinks that Mount Moriah, was the NAME OF THE WHOLE RIDGE. Therefore the TEMPLE was built on Mt. ZION, a single peak in the middle of the Mt. Moriah Ridge. The Mistake the JEWS and Christians who believe the so-called TEMPLE MOUNT, is the right LOCATION, is NOT LOOKING FOR A LEVEL ENOUGH GROUND FOR THE THRESHING FLOOR.

There is evidence that TEMPLE was built on a LOWER HILL in our New Testament, but the JEWS do not what to HEAR IT.

Acts 21:29-40 (HCSB)
29 For they had previously seen Trophimus the Ephesian in the city with him, and they supposed that Paul had brought him into the temple complex.
30 The whole city was stirred up, and the people rushed together. They seized Paul, dragged him out of the temple complex, and at once the gates were shut.
31 As they were trying to kill him, word went up to the commander of the regiment that all Jerusalem was in chaos.
32 Taking along soldiers and centurions, he immediately ran down to them. Seeing the commander and the soldiers, they stopped beating Paul.
33 Then the commander came up, took him into custody, and ordered him to be bound with two chains. He asked who he was and what he had done.
34 Some in the mob were shouting one thing and some another. Since he was not able to get reliable information because of the uproar, he ordered him to be taken into the barracks.
35 When Paul got to the steps, he had to be carried by the soldiers because of the mob’s violence,
36 for the mass of people followed, yelling, “Take him away!”
37 As he was about to be brought into the barracks, Paul said to the commander, “Am I allowed to say something to you?” He replied, “Do you know Greek?
38 Aren’t you the Egyptian who raised a rebellion some time ago and led 4,000 Assassins into the wilderness?”
39 Paul said, “I am a Jewish man from Tarsus of Cilicia, a citizen of an important city. Now I ask you, let me speak to the people.”
40 After he had given permission, Paul stood on the steps and motioned with his hand to the people. When there was a great hush, he addressed them in the Hebrew language:


Notice from the FORTRESS ANTONIA, then had to RUN DOWN TO SAVE PAUL.

And there was a stairs with a place to speak from, where is it TODAY ? ? ? It is OUTSIDE THE WALL.

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There is drawing of what it looked like during Paul's arrest. Here is the same stairs only I drew in the entrances, as during the Ottoman Empire rule, that Wall was rebuilt without Doorways.

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I suspect the Commander of the COHORT on DUTY, occupied that Office (red rectangle) inside the wall.


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My theory, is GOD may want it in the WRONG LOCATION, since the Antichrist controlled by Satan is Prophesied to SIT THERE.
 

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Here is a drawing of a different ROMAN LEGION's Fortress, which is in ruins today, look at Size and it is Identical to the Fortress of Antonia (so-called Temple Mount), but it may have been in Lebanon, or Haltern, Germania, if I remember right. And then look at the size and style of the FRONT GATE, which is where I got the Style from the drawing in their Front Gate. Romans would have a STANDARD sketch and Blueprints, to give anyone who is building them a FORTRESS, makes Perfect Sense, even though HEROD and his workers would build it.
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Here below, is the Roman GateHouse, at Arbeia Roman fortress, South Shields, England, reconstructed in detail, is standing above the entrance to the River Tyne in North East England, to give us an accurate dimension what the Roman Legion Fortress would look like. Way too much of a coincidence that Herod used the same dimensions as a Roman Legion used for their Fortresses, for me to buy that supposed coincidence.

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Now I found in looking up this image A MANIFICANT IMAGE. Just as I suspect here is the blue print that would have been given to Herod, as they wanted all Roman Fortresses to look some want a like. This was blue print is of Novaesium, England. Someone preserved this Blue print and the above Roman Fortress GateHouse. On that light tan plaque, would have hung the Standard of the Tenth Roman Legion:

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Here is the best Video of this Reconstructed GateHouse and the ruins of the property.
https://video.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?fr=yhs-norton-ext_onb&ei=UTF-8&hsimp=yhs-ext_onb&hspart=norton&param1=3b0ebadd-8f2d-45eb-9f00-a258073af85a_2019-11-06_cr&param2=ds_direct_sep19&param3=ngc_22.17.3.50_wk45_2019&param4=1000&source=direct&p=arbeia+roman+fort,+south+shields&type=cr_ds_sep19_wk45_2019#id=5&vid=7727081cd90541f10bcee0887f4e01d2&action=view

As you can see, they only Reconstructed the GATE HOUSE, and a few of the buildings, but the TENTH would have had similar quarters, which is the so-call Temple Mount itself. See that light tan plaque area Above the doors. That may have been for the TENTH LEGION Standard Flag would have been displayed.


Painting of the Roman Legion at HALTERN, Germania.

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QUOTE:
"It (Jerusalem) is now demolished to the very foundations,
and hath nothing left but that monument of it preserved,
I mean the Camp of those (Romans) that hath destroyed it,
which still dwells upon its ruins."
- Eleazer Ben Jair (Commander of the Jewish Forces at Masada)
:End Quote.


QUOTE:
Now as to the Tower of Antonia,
it might seem to be composed of several cities.
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For if we go up to this Tower of Antonia,
we gain the city since we shall then be
upon the top of the hill.
- Josephus


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In 333 A.D., the Bordeaux Pilgrim from a High Tower of the Church of the Holy Sepulchre.
He said, "I looked do East and all he could see was the long wall of a Roman Fort."


These quotes came from Bob Cornuke's video:

 
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I believe Jesus and Gabriel through Daniel said the city and temple would remain desolate while war desolations continued, and then the prince who is to come,...


I think as we see, it’s still desolate, hidden and buried.
 

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Jeremiah 26:18 (HCSB)
18 “Micah the Moreshite prophesied in the days of Hezekiah king of Judah and said to all the people of Judah,
‘This is what the LORD of Hosts says:
Zion will be plowed like a field, Jerusalem will become ruins, and the temple mount a forested hill.’'

Where they raised Potatoes.

Now look at old paintings and Pictures of the Dome of the ROCK, I know I just posted this recently, but bare with me:





Can you COUNT THE TREES?

This 1887 drawing only pictures maybe 4 Trees:



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This is probably a 1930's photo, SOME TREE COVERED HILL.
". . . Zion will be plowed like a field, Jerusalem will become ruins, and the temple mount a forested hill.’
Where is the PLOWED FIELD, and The Forested Hill ? ? ?

THEY HAVE NEVER BEEN ON THE SO-CALLED TEMPLE MOUNT.

They MAY have a very small Threshing Floor that some say is under the floor, but NO ONE IS ALLOWED TO DIG THERE.
But my understanding, it was a large Threshing Floor that DAVID PAID ORNAN 600 Shekels of GOLD for the land. Today it is approximately $1861 per oz., at today's gold Prices, and six hundred gold coins, at 2 Shelkels per oz., (.497 oz. per Shekel); that would be $558,300 US Dollars today. That means the Purchase Price was over half a million in today's currency, and Ornan became RICH with that sale of his land to King David. I ran it twice, and that is right. So how much land did King David Purchase? It is unknown how much of the surrounding land went with this purchase, but my guess it would have been all land between north of the Dome of the Rock and down south of the Pool of Siloam.

That means all of the Mt. Moriah Ridge (is not a single peak), that covered that same distance, including the Central Peak on the OPHEL, Mt. Zion, which was a large flat top hill.

So the THEORY, that this monument Marks the site of the Holy of Holies, supposedly, in the northwest Corner of the Golden Dome.


Is fueled by the fact that it aligns perfectly with the supposed Golden Gate. And I say, "Is that ALL YOU GOT, a total GUESS ? ? ?"
They claim the little round circle is the THRESHING FLOOR Ornan, also called Araunah, the Jebusite. THAT SMALL THING, is a THRESHING FLOOR? It is supposedly the ONLY flat ground on the so-called Temple Mount, and those who believe this THEORY, would rather believe that than admit you chose the WRONG SITE. Can you picture 5 men in that little circle with an Animal pulling the cart around, LOL.

1614464779580.jpeg They COULD USE A MUCH LARGER THRESHING FLOOR.

1 Chronicles 21:20-22 (NJB)
20 Ornan had turned round and seen the angel, and he and his four sons with him had hidden.
21 When David arrived Ornan was threshing wheat. He looked up and saw David and came off the threshing-floor and prostrated himself on the ground at David's feet.
22 David then said to Ornan, ‘Let me have the site of the threshing-floor, so that I can build an altar to Yahweh on it; let me have it at the full price—so that the plague may be lifted from the people.'

1 Chronicles 21:24-27 (NJB)
24 ‘No,' said King David to Ornan, ‘I insist on buying it at the full price. I will not offer Yahweh what belongs to you or bring burnt offerings which have cost me nothing.'
25 So David gave Ornan six hundred shekels of gold {,worth over half a million dollars today,} by weight for the site.
26 There David built an altar to Yahweh and brought burnt offerings and peace offerings. He called on Yahweh, and Yahweh answered him with fire from heaven on the altar of burnt offering.
27 Then Yahweh ordered the angel to sheathe his sword.

He built it on site of a LARGE THRESHING FLOOR on the flat top MT. ZION, with is the central Mountain on the Mount Moriah RIDGE.
And King Solomon built the TEMPLE on the same site, the southwestern corner of the OPHEL.
 

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Mount Moriah, was the NAME of the Whole Ridge. It ran from north of the Dome of the Rock, down south past the Pool of Siloam.
Ancient Jerusalem was what we now call the CITY of DAVID, only much narrower; and NOTHING WAS ON TOP OF THE HIGH GROUND.

This is a REPEAT, but it makes my POINT:

Eusebius of Caesarea


Eusebius in a modern imagining
Born Eusebius 260/265
Died 339/340 (aged 74–79)
Occupation Bishop, historian, theologian

Here is a HISTORIAN, that in the 3rd Century, knew and understood that ANCIENT JERUSALEM, was further SOUTH than the TOP OF THE HILL, which was nicknamed the City of David. And look what he wrote about the TEMPLE:

Eusebius (a 3rd Century Historian) wrote:
"The hill called Zion and Jerusalem, the building there, that is to say the temple,"

That hill called ZION, was a flat topped hill where ORNAN the Jebusite has his THRESHING FLOOR that David was instructed by GOD to buy, for the TEMPLE that was to be built by Solomon. THE TEMPLE WAS NEVER ON THE HIGHER GROUND, which became the FORTRESS ANTONIA.



Proof that the Sanhedrin Voted in 1212 A.D. that Mount to the Southwest is NOT ZION.
Proof that the Sanhedrin Voted in 1212 A.D. where the TEMPLE MOUNT was, and GOT IT ALL WRONG, as it is on the LOWER HILL.
 

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In other words, I TRUST a 3rd Century Historian, more than Jews that had been absent for almost a 1000 years on a major expulsion out of the country.

How about this quote that the Knights Templar thought the so-called INFO for the temple Location based on the Sanhedrin false information, that the TEMPLE used to be in that top of the hill, was a bogus location. That false information SEEM to Verify the Sanhedrin voting decision. When they had to vote of four Possible location, it MEANS none of them were sure were the TEMPLE was Located; therefore they Chose the wrong location. In 1212 A.D. literally NOTHING REMAINED of Ancient Jerusalem, OR THE TEMPLE. It was ALL TOTALLY TORN DOWN by the Romans in 70 A.D., and looked like this:



NOTHING REMAINED of the Ancient Jerusalem and the TEMPLE, not ONE WALL remained, and had been that way since the ROMANS DETROYED IT IN 70 A.D.; except for two farm houses and not sure when they were BUILT.
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After the CITY of David, which is ANCIENT JERUSALEM, and the TEMPLE, were UTTERLY DESTROYED; no one even knew the City of David (Ancient Jerusalem), lied beneath their feet, and literally remained so until 1864. AND that 1857 photo, was taken from the top of the hill way down in the Kidron Valley.
 

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Some how I must have accidently clicked the wrong button, so this is a continuence of the previous post.


QUOTE:
The area immediately outside the walls of Jerusalem was undeveloped for most of early modern history, with the exception of the village of Silwan. Modern settlement outside of the walls began in the late 19th century. A few small buildings are visible on the hill facing the houses of Silwan in the Illés Relief, built between 1864-73. In 1873–1874 a member of the notable Jewish Meyuchas family moved to a house on the towards the bottom of the hill.[13] During the early 20th century, Baron de Rothschild acquired some land in the same area for the purposes of archaeological excavation.[14] The Meyuchas family left in the 1930s; no other Jewish families are known to have settled in the area during the period.[14] - Wikipedia :END QUOTE.

So when did it become the City of David ? ? ?

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First suggested in 1920 for this particular area, the term "City of David" was used officially from the 1970s onward, following the capture of East Jerusalem by Israel, but today the name with its biblical and political connotations is questioned by some in the archaeological academic community.[6] - Wikipedia. :END QUOTE.

So the Nickname of Ancient Jerusalem, was City of David, and did not become It's legal name until 1970. So did anyone suspect the Ancient Jerusalem was underneath that one time POTATO FIELD ? ? ? Not until Sir Charles Warren, discoved the Warren's Shaft in 1867.

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In the Ceiling of Gihon Springs,
Near to where you turn into Hezekiah's Tunnel.

Which would feed running water from the Gihon Springs, (one of few Siphon Springs in the world), right in the middle of the POTATOE FIELD, northwest of the Gihon Springs. WHY THERE ? ? ? Because ONLY fresh water from a SPRING to ceremonially Cleans and Purify all the hands and instruments for the Sacrifice to GOD. That is what Jews think that GOD Himself calls LIVING WATER, and the PRIESTS cannot substitute water from Cistern, and the Cistern Water is all you have up top the Hill.

And HERE IS A RECENT FINDING in the Archaeological Digs:

QUOTE:
Book 8, Chapter 5, Section 2:
2. This house was a large and curious building, and was supported by many pillars
, which Solomon built to contain a multitnde for hearing causes, and taking cognizance of suits. It was sufficiently capacious to contain a great body of men, who would come together to have their causes determined. It was a hundred cubits long, and fifty broad, and thirty high, supported by quadrangular pillars, which were all of cedar; but its roof was according to the Corinthian order, with folding doors, and their adjoining pillars of equal magnitude, each fluted with three cavities; which building as at once firm, and very ornamental. There was also another house so ordered, that its entire breadth was placed in the middle; it was quadrangular, and its breadth was thirty cubits, having a temple over against it, raised upon massy pillars; in which temple there was a large and very glorious room, wherein the king sat in judgment. To this was joined another house that was built for his queen. . . .
The Works of Flavius Josephus. :END QUOTE
 

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Jeremiah 26:18 (HCSB)
18 “Micah the Moreshite prophesied in the days of Hezekiah king of Judah and said to all the people of Judah,
‘This is what the LORD of Hosts says:
Zion will be plowed like a field, Jerusalem will become ruins, and the temple mount a forested hill.’'

Psalm 125:1-2 (HCSB)
1 Those who trust in the LORD are like Mount Zion. It cannot be shaken; it remains forever.
2 Jerusalem—the mountains surround her. And the LORD surrounds His people, both now and forever.

Ancient Jerusalem is the CITY OF DAVID, a lower hill, not the higher Hill, and Warren’s Shaft exited in the middle of a Potato field just approximately 600 feet south of the Modern Jerusalem city walls on the SOUTH. And every one said, Sir Charles Warren was crazy, in 1864, and many still do, but I do NOT.

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QUOTE:
Book 8, Chapter 5, Section 2:
2. This house was a large and curious building, and was supported by many pillars
, which Solomon built to contain a multitnde for hearing causes, and taking cognizance of suits. It was sufficiently capacious to contain a great body of men, who would come together to have their causes determined. It was a hundred cubits long, and fifty broad, and thirty high, supported by quadrangular pillars, which were all of cedar; but its roof was according to the Corinthian order, with folding doors, and their adjoining pillars of equal magnitude, each fluted with three cavities; which building as at once firm, and very ornamental. There was also another house so ordered, that its entire breadth was placed in the middle; it was quadrangular, and its breadth was thirty cubits, having a temple over against it, raised upon massy pillars; in which temple there was a large and very glorious room, wherein the king sat in judgment. To this was joined another house that was built for his queen. . . .
The Works of Flavius Josephus. :END QUOTE


Many of the Pics King Solomon's Palace of this study is pure speculation on HOW, I imagine Solomon's Palace to be, based on the facts presented by Josephus such as Solomon the Fact that King Solomon rebuilt and/or remodeled King David's after he inherited, his Father's Palace. He built or remodeled the main Palace Chambers for Official Business, and then built TWO apartments out back, the one on the left, (2nd building) was used for guests, and the right one, (the 3rd Building) was for his wife, and on top of that Josephus said they were attached, with a probably a covered breezeway in between. His Wife would spend the day with her servants, in her luxurious Apartment, and would rarely visit the Palace, most likely only on invite. It does mention a TEMPLE was built next to the two aparments out back, and the SECOND ONE having a temple over against it, but not the third one. So the Third Apartment had to be just east of the Eastern Gate to the Temple, and the Second just west of that, with the Temple very close to it. ONE OTHER POINT, I cannot imagine King Solomon, having a Pagan Temple sitting that CLOSE TO HIS PALACE, so it HAD TO BE THEE TEMPLE that it is talking about.

So where do I get the deductive reasoning, that the Warren's Shaft led to the TEMPLE ? ? ?

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When the main tunnel at the bottom by the word "Gihon Spring", and when it became Plugged so that the GIHON just pumped the water upwards about 50 to the second exit. That is called a Siphon Spring and it is RARE that the water pressure is enough to handle it. Apparently King Solomon had men climb up in what is now called Warren's Shaft, block that entrance, and start to tunnel upwards two the Northwest, until they reached the middle of the field just north barely of city Walls of Ancient Jerusalem (nicknamed the City of David). Then they built the TEMPLE around the Spring, and then plugged the bottom exit, and it ran up hill to the TEMPLE. Yes there was enough water Pressure to carry it about 35 feet more. A MAJOR CLUE that it was man made, is is how straight up and down the top part is. When it was built, that bottom part of the dead-end tunnel was yet to be eroded, and over the years it eroded that deep. The word Gihon means, Gushing or a Bursting Forth: and the spring lived up to it's name, as the Spring was not a trickling stream. Once the spring was turned on by plugging the bottom tunnel, and carving a blood channel in the floor of the TEMPLE, it quickly washed all the blood out of the temple and into the creek that was there west of the temple that only flows during rainy season, in the Central Valley.

No one wanted to believe Sir Charles Warren in 1864, and I still find that few are willing to admit the Sanhedrin got it all wrong, when they Voted on where Mt. Zion is, on Mt. Moriah is a single Peak instead of name of the Entire Ridge, and especially where the TEMPLE MOUNT is Located; after being out of the Country for almost a 1000 years. It would be like if my entire family moved to Brazil, and then moved back a 1000 years later with at least 12 or more generations that had passed away, and INSISTED THAT NEBRASKA IS THE STATE EAST OF KENTUCKY, AND EVERYONE WHO DOES NOT KNOW WERE NEBRASKA REALLY IS, JUST CHIMED IN AND BELIEVED HIM, BECAUSE AFTER ALL HIS DESCENDENTS ARE FROM NEBRASKA.

Isn't that called the Blind leading the Blind ? ? ? I have found way more evidence for the TEMPLE BELONGING IN THE CITY OF DAVID, than even I had expected. I am 100% convinced it is THERE.

Now my inpression of how the Palace of King Solomon may have appeared at the time he was building the TEMPLE.

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Just north of the city limits on the Southwest corner of the OPHEL stood the TEMPLE on the Threshing Floor of Ornan that King David bought, and on the southeast corner of the Temple was King Solomon's Palace with 3 building on the property.
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King Solomon welcoming his Queen, to the Palace, she lived out back in one of the apartments.
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On top of those pillars is the Symbol of the Davidnic Dynastly. Every King in the line of David would have had them installed.
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King Solomon resting in the sunlight.
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Blood Channel in the Bedrock Floor of perhaps King David's Tabernacle.
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Those who know me, please pray for me to get better. Two weeks ago I feel on ice, and hurt my back bad. Nothing broken but it is still paining me very bad. Also 9 days ago I had a stroke, and that is the 8th stroke I have had, but I am okey, I think. God bless you all.

It is getting better Slowly, but PRAISE THE LORD.