Is the Holy Spirit showing us God can be anywhere and everywhere at the same time (Omnipresent|Omniscient)?

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The Fall of Adam and Eve placed each person under the Curse that beset all of Creation. The Purpose of Christ is to take the sins of His Children, and to place them upon Himself. Because we are Cursed, we sin, for this is what the Sinful Nature does . . . this Nature obeys the Devil (who is the Father to those who have not received the Circumcision of Christ). Because we are Cursed, and because Jesus takes away our Curse, he becomes Cursed for His Children. Jesus takes the Curse that was applied to His Children, and they are thus freed from the Curse that the Law pronounces. If the Curse doesn't exist within a person, the Law cannot pronounce, or proclaim it.

Galatians 3:13 NLT - "But Christ has rescued us from the curse pronounced by the law. When he was hung on the cross, he took upon himself the curse for our wrongdoing. For it is written in the Scriptures, "Cursed is everyone who is hung on a tree."

No, it is not wrong to think of Jesus as a man, for He was just that . . . a physical, literal man.

There is nothing in the Bible that indicates that there is any form of weakness to the Father, Son, or Holy Spirit.

As for the special case . . . I don't know what you mean by this.
We already know Jesus was separate from the Father while on Earth, why are we assuming Baby Jesus had the Holy Spirit before Baptism?
 

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We already know Jesus was separate from the Father while on Earth, why are we assuming Baby Jesus had the Holy Spirit before Baptism?
Hmmm . . . Jesus [is] the Spirit. When the Spirit descended upon Christ, this is a reflection of what is to come to those who believe.

Luke 01:35 states that Mary will become Filled With the Holy Spirit as she carries the Seed of Christ. Of course, she will be Purified and Granted the Holy Spirit; SHE CARRIES THE SEED OF CHRIST! Anyone who possesses the Seed of Christ, cannot be under the Curse of Adam and Eve; this is the entire point of the Bible. To be lifted of the Curse, we must be Purified by Christ. There is no other way. There is no other option. Jesus Christ [is] the Spirit, therefore, Mary is filled with the Spirit and that Spirit is Christ.
 
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Hmmm . . . Jesus [is] the Spirit. When the Spirit descended upon Christ, this is a reflection of what is to come to those who believe.

Luke 01:35 states that Mary will become Filled With the Holy Spirit as she carries the Seed of Christ. Of course, she will be Purified and Granted the Holy Spirit; SHE CARRIES THE SEED OF CHRIST! Anyone who possesses the Seed of Christ, cannot be under the Curse of Adam and Eve; this is the entire point of the Bible. To be lifted of the Curse, we must be Purified by Christ. There is no other way. There is no other option. Jesus Christ [is] the Spirit, therefore, Mary is filled with the Spirit and that Spirit is Christ.
The Spirit of Christ is different than the Holy Spirit. Mary can have the Holy Spirit, but Jesus still needs Baptized ..just like new babies today.
 
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The Spirit of Christ is different than the Holy Spirit. Mary can have the Holy Spirit, but Jesus still needs Baptized ..just like new babies today.

Not new babies.... folks who repent and understand what baptism...is.
He was not a baby when baptized.
 
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Not new babies.... folks who repent and understand what baptism...is.
He was not a baby when baptized.
Umm, what? I'm saying mother's today that have the Holy Spirit in them do not birth babies that automatically have the Holy Spirit in them.
 
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Jesus's Baptism should be a Holiday as big as Christmas. We've been looking at it as a side-show when it was monumental to Jesus's mission.
 

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The Spirit of Christ is different than the Holy Spirit. Mary can have the Holy Spirit, but Jesus still needs Baptizing..just like new babies today.
I don't need to be baptized to be saved. Why would Jesus [need] to be baptized?
 
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I don't need to be baptized to be saved. Why would Jesus [need] to be baptized?
You are claiming the Holy Spirit isn't involved with Baptism? It was all part of the plan. It was foretold in the Bible when Jesus would be Baptized.
 

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Umm, what? I'm saying mothers today that have the Holy Spirit in them do not birth babies that automatically have the Holy Spirit in them.
If Jesus wasn't Spirit-led as a baby, then why would the baby John the Baptist leap within Elizabeth's womb when Mary entered her house? Because Jesus was also being taught and led from within the womb, just like His father . . . king David.

Luke 1:41 NIV - "When Elizabeth heard Mary's greeting, the baby leaped in her womb, and Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit."

And since you will likely challenge that David is not the father of Christ, here you go:

Matthew 1:1 NIV - "This is the genealogy of Jesus the Messiah the son of David, the son of Abraham . . ."
 

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You are claiming the Holy Spirit isn't involved with Baptism? It was all part of the plan. It was foretold in the Bible when Jesus would be Baptized.
I forgot to show that king David was being taught by the Spirit from within the womb:

Psalm 51:6 NIV - "Yet you desired faithfulness even in the womb; you taught me wisdom in that secret place."
 
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Not sure why you are fighting to downplay Jesus's Baptism. Babies kicking means they had the Holy Spirit in them? I'm not saying it was impossible for other babies to have the Holy Spirit. I'm saying Jesus had a specific date to receive the Holy Spirit ..through Baptism.
 

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Not sure why you are fighting to downplay Jesus's Baptism. Babies kicking means they had the Holy Spirit in them? I'm not saying it was impossible for other babies to have the Holy Spirit. I'm saying Jesus had a specific date to receive the Holy Spirit ..through Baptism.
Okie Doke.
 

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Can you see the green arrow? Jesus receiving the Holy Spirit was set by a date in the Old Testament.
Your diagram doesn't say that Jesus received the Holy Spirit. It reports water baptism.

Be careful not to assume that this is the way a person receives the Holy Spirit. The Spirit does not "descend" down and upon anyone like a dove. Again, this is a fore-shadow of what is to happen to many as of the Day of Pentecost.
 
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Your diagram doesn't say that Jesus received the Holy Spirit. It reports water baptism.

Be careful not to assume that this is the way a person receives the Holy Spirit. The Spirit does not "descend" down and upon anyone like a dove. Again, this is a fore-shadow of what is to happen to many as of the Day of Pentecost.
Are you in a religion that downplays Baptism? ..cause uhhh, it's kind of important.
 

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Are you in a religion that downplays Baptism? ..cause uhhh, it's kind of important.
Water baptism is important? Not a chance. God doesn't require worldly h20 to accomplish Spiritual deeds.

What you're missing is the fact of the Mysterious Plan. Until you grasp the Mysterious Plan, you will not understand the Circumcision of Christ, and if you do not understand the Circumcision of Christ, you will not understand why Abraham is the Father of Faith to Gentiles . . . those who were not physically circumcised.

To begin your understanding of this plan, read the below passages in the following order:

Ephesians 3:1-13, then read
Ephesians 2:10-16, then read
Colossians 2:9-15 - Any translation will do except for "The Message." Throw that bible in the garbage bin.

The Bible is not easy to understand . . . we must know, forwards and backwards, Colossians 2:9-15. Until "you" ascend to these SEVEN perfect verses, the Gospel and the Bible, on the whole, will remain utterly elusive.
 
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Water baptism is important? Not a chance. God doesn't require worldly h20 to accomplish Spiritual deeds.

What you're missing is the fact of the Mysterious Plan. Until you grasp the Mysterious Plan, you will not understand the Circumcision of Christ, and if you do not understand the Circumcision of Christ, you will not understand why Abraham is the Father of Faith to Gentiles . . . those who were not physically circumcised.

To begin your understanding of this plan, read the below passages in the following order:

Ephesians 3:1-13, then read
Ephesians 2:10-16, then read
Colossians 2:9-15 - Any translation will do except for "The Message." Throw that bible in the garbage bin.

The Bible is not easy to understand . . . we must know, forwards and backwards, Colossians 2:9-15. Until "you" ascend to these SEVEN perfect verses, the Gospel and the Bible, on the whole, will remain utterly elusive.
Can you live with Jesus's needing to be water?