When Has God Gathered After He Scattered Without Any Repentance?
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No what paul did is introduce us to the old testament shadows.
Christanity is found in the old testament. Jesus did not come to change but fulfill.
We are new creatures in christ jesus but not new in terms of a new religion or belief.
The early church failed to discern and has seperated Christianity from Judaism. Paul is showing us through the shadows how we came to be. The foundations that was before the world was created.
Do you think God was surprised at the rejection of his son....of course not. God made previsions for this in fact everything is going according to plan. Gods plan that is.
Think about it...what do we need a high preist for we're not jews. Or a sacrafice, but yet this is required to approach God.
We are adopted into the family of God. Joint heirs in Christ Jesus.
As i said before jews dont become christiand but we are given the heart of the jews.
How so you might ask? Read the covenant God makes with israel in Jeremiah 31 is that not the same heart we have?
This covenant is a universal covenant meaning it does not depend on the obedience of israel or its repentance.
God will do all that is required to make it happen...all the heavy lifting.
By grace you are saved...ring a bell? As we were yet sinners christ died for us....
Christanity is found in the old testament. Jesus did not come to change but fulfill.
We are new creatures in christ jesus but not new in terms of a new religion or belief.
The early church failed to discern and has seperated Christianity from Judaism. Paul is showing us through the shadows how we came to be. The foundations that was before the world was created.
Do you think God was surprised at the rejection of his son....of course not. God made previsions for this in fact everything is going according to plan. Gods plan that is.
Think about it...what do we need a high preist for we're not jews. Or a sacrafice, but yet this is required to approach God.
We are adopted into the family of God. Joint heirs in Christ Jesus.
As i said before jews dont become christiand but we are given the heart of the jews.
How so you might ask? Read the covenant God makes with israel in Jeremiah 31 is that not the same heart we have?
This covenant is a universal covenant meaning it does not depend on the obedience of israel or its repentance.
God will do all that is required to make it happen...all the heavy lifting.
By grace you are saved...ring a bell? As we were yet sinners christ died for us....
God demands their repentance before the gathering begins, right? Please read the “if/when” condition of 2Chr. 7 and you’ll see that. Seriously, y’all just make it up as you go and aren’t bothered in the least by it? 
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Anti- Zionism is just Anti- Semitism wrapped in a shiny new paper. They think no one notices. It's evil and from the pit of hell. God chose the land, He chose the people. The church does not replace the Jews. They want all the curses for the Jew and all the blessing for themselves. They ignore every promise made by God and say He won't keep them to the Jews. How could you trust a god that would lie to his own people? God will keep His promises, His callings, which are irrevocable, and Anti- Semites will soon find they were on the wrong side of history.
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not all who are descended from Israel are Israel. Nor because they are his descendants are they all Abraham’s children. On the contrary, “It is through Isaac that your offspring will be reckoned.” In other words, it is not the children by physical descent who are God’s children, but it is the children of the promise who are regarded as Abraham’s offspring. Rom.9:6-8
Why are people blind to this? People who claim they believe in Jesus, but who refuse to acknowledge what this says, are doing great harm to the Jewish people.
Why are people blind to this? People who claim they believe in Jesus, but who refuse to acknowledge what this says, are doing great harm to the Jewish people.
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Harm to the Jewish people!! This anti-Jew replacement heresy is what has done harm to Jewish people!! It has wrought persecution for the Jews down through the ages, helped bring about the Holocaust and it is from the pit of hell!! God has made an EVERLASTING promise to the Jews, and He will keep it!
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I do admire your passion! I think you're sincere, and I respect that. I'd just challenge you to never stop seeking truth and never stop learning.
That is all.
That is all.
Brother I think we are both pretty passionate people. We disagree hard, but there are things we truly agree on. I hope we can still be friends. I know I'm pretty direct and not everyone can take that. lol
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God demands their repentance before the gathering begins, right? Please read the “if/when” condition of 2Chr. 7 and you’ll see that. Seriously, y’all just make it up as you go and aren’t bothered in the least by it?
Ps. 105- 8 He remembers his covenant forever,
the promise he made, for a thousand generations,
9 the covenant he made with Abraham,
the oath he swore to Isaac.
10 He confirmed it to Jacob as a decree,
to Israel as an everlasting covenant:
11 “To you I will give the land of Canaan
as the portion you will inherit.”
Jeremiah 23:7-8 7 Therefore, behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that they shall no more say, The Lord liveth, which brought up the children of Israel out of the land of Egypt;
8 But, The Lord liveth, which brought up and which led the seed of the house of Israel out of the north country, and from all countries whither I had driven them; and they shall dwell in their own land.
Ezekiel 28:25-26 25 “‘This is what the Sovereign Lord says: When I gather the people of Israel from the nations where they have been scattered, I will be proved holy through them in the sight of the nations. Then they will live in their own land, which I gave to my servant Jacob. 26 They will live there in safety and will build houses and plant vineyards; they will live in safety when I inflict punishment on all their neighbors who maligned them. Then they will know that I am the Lord their God.’”
13 And I will bring them out from the people, and gather them from the countries, and will bring them to their own land, and feed them upon the mountains of Israel by the rivers, and in all the inhabited places of the country.
24 For I will take you from among the heathen, and gather you out of all countries, and will bring you into your own land.
11 Then he said to me: “Son of man, these bones are the people of Israel. They say, ‘Our bones are dried up and our hope is gone; we are cut off.’ 12 Therefore prophesy and say to them: ‘This is what the Sovereign Lord says: My people,I am going to open your graves and bring you up from them; I will bring you back to the land of Israel. 3 Then you, my people, will know that I am the Lord, when I open your graves and bring you up from them. 14 I will put my Spirit in you and you will live, and I will settle you in your own land. Then you will know that I the Lord have spoken, and I have done it, declares the Lord.’”
28 Then they will know that I am the Lord their God, for though I sent them into exile among the nations, I will gather them to their own land, not leaving any behind.
Amos 15 And I will plant them upon their land, and they shall no more be pulled up out of their land which I have given them, saith the Lord thy God.
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No!! Read the Scriptures I just posted. You are wrong!! The land was given to the Jewish people, who will repent and are returning to the land that has been theirs for a thousand generations!! It does not belong to the Gentiles!! It belongs to the Jews, just as the Word says. YOU are wrong! Nowhere does it say the church/ Gentiles inherit the land. Read the Word!
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Leviticus 26
42 I will remember my covenant with Jacob and my covenant with Isaac and my covenant with Abraham, and I will remember the land.
43 For the land will be deserted by them and will enjoy its sabbaths while it lies desolate without them.
They will pay for their sins because they rejected my laws and abhorred my decrees.
44 Yet in spite of this, when they are in the land of their enemies, I will not reject them or abhor them so as to destroy them completely, breaking my covenant with them. I am the Lord their God.
45 But for their sake I will remember the covenant with their ancestors whom I brought out of Egypt in the sight of the nations to be their God. I am the Lord.”
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