To all of you non flat earthers.

[GaryA]

Why did Joshua ask that God stop the sun, if he really meant stop the Earth? If Joshua got it wrong, why didn't the biblical narrator (inspired by God, who would know) correct him, if God really stopped the Earth from spinning?

If the Earth was spinning - and then suddenly stopped spinning - it would [pretty-much] kill everyone on Earth. Whereas, if the sun "paused" in its path like scripture indicates, it would not hurt anything.

 

[GaryA]

In Isaiah, why does Isaiah refer to the "circle of the Earth" rather than the "ball of the Earth", if Earth is more a ball than a circle?

I believe 'circle of the Earth' is referring to the ice ring and not the shape of the Earth.

 

[GaryA]

Just wondering how that scripture fits in if people interpret 'circle of the earth' as evidence for flat earth.

Because 'circle of the earth' is not referring to the overall "outer-edge" shape of the earth; rather, it is referring to the habitable region of the earth - inside the ice ring - which contains the oceans.

 

[GaryA]

Be honest, is ISS an fake? Ore is flying this Station around the earth? How it comes that a plane which is flying from London east to reach india. And then in the same direction to the eastcost of USA and then in the same direction accross the country to the westcost
and from there to London? This is proofable. And not possible if the earth is flat.
All the Planet we see are in the sky are rund ore flat? It makes no sense that all Planet are rund like a Ball, except the earth.
Also you have to consider that not all scripture is literal to understand.

ISS is fake. Honest.

I believe they have an airplane that looks like the ISS.

To continue flying east or west is actually traveling in a circular path - which "returns" to itself.

A 'planet' - in the Bible - is a "wondering star"...

 

[breno785au]

Because 'circle of the earth' is not referring to the overall "outer-edge" shape of the earth; rather, it is referring to the habitable region of the earth - inside the ice ring - which contains the oceans.

Is there any documentation of this ice ring?

 

[GaryA]

Is there any documentation of this ice ring?

Yes - "sort of" - directly-and-indirectly...

 

[GaryA]

I doubt you will find any white papers on the ice ring - labeled as such; however, there do exist documents of some things people have done in the past that point very favorably to the 'flat earth' and the 'ice wall ring'.

I will tell you about one of them in a future post.

 

[GaryA]

A few centuries or so back in history:

A group of men decided to sail around Antarctica.

They kept a journal of the trip.

It took them [something like] three years and 60K+ [nautical] miles to get back to the starting point of the journey.

(Waaaaay too much time and distance for what it should have taken [just] to go around Antarctica.)

They also had to make constant course corrections - using the stars as a reference - during the entire trip.

(Because they were going the opposite direction - CW vs CCW - than they thought they were going.)

The data from their trip shows that - instead of merely going around Antarctica, they went around everything...

 

[GaryA]

(They followed the ice wall ring all the way "around the world"...)

 

[GaryA]

I don't presently have any links for you - you will have to do an internet search.

I also don't presently remember the name of the captain who was the leader of that expedition.

Sorry...

 

[breno785au]

A few centuries or so back in history:

A group of men decided to sail around Antarctica.

They kept a journal of the trip.

It took them [something like] three years and 60K+ [nautical] miles to get back to the starting point of the journey.

(Waaaaay too much time and distance for what it should have taken [just] to go around Antarctica.)

They also had to make constant course corrections - using the stars as a reference - during the entire trip.

(Because they were going the opposite direction - CW vs CCW - than they thought they were going.)

The data from their trip shows that - instead of merely going around Antarctica, they went around everything...

I really don't think a few hundred year old story counts. At least not for me.
And I don't believe there is any global conspiracy hiding it. Anyone who's been involved in project management would know this would be an impossible task.
I want to see pictures, videos, documentation, anything that shows there's a ice ring. We are more than capable of doing this modern day.

 

[GaryA]

I really don't think a few hundred year old story counts. At least not for me.
And I don't believe there is any global conspiracy hiding it. Anyone who's been involved in project management would know this would be an impossible task.
I want to see pictures, videos, documentation, anything that shows there's a ice ring. We are more than capable of doing this modern day.

More than capable - but restricted by government and military.

What you may not realize is that some of this "old history" is some of the best "evidence" there is!

What you may see easily today is pictures of the ice wall - but "labeled" simply as the coast of Antarctica.

 

[GaryA]

What may help --- look into the [Antarctica] expeditions of Admiral Byrd.

 

[2ndTimothyGroup]

If the Earth was spinning - and then suddenly stopped spinning - it would [pretty-much] kill everyone on Earth. Whereas, if the sun "paused" in its path like scripture indicates, it would not hurt anything.

Cool argument. I've never heard that one before.

 

[breno785au]

Cool argument. I've never heard that one before.

Except if God is able to stop the sun, He is also more than able to stop everything and anything and still sustain life.

 

[GaryA]

And I don't believe there is any global conspiracy hiding it.

Do you have any idea just how "protected" Antarctica is?????

Have you looked up the Antarctica Treaty?

Why will they not let anyone near it?

 

[GaryA]

Except if God is able to stop the sun, He is also more than able to stop everything and anything and still sustain life.

That is a very weak argument. It seeks to explain literally everything in the guise of a miracle of God without regard to the 'stability' of the 'system' God set up during creation week - which has not altered since.

In a word - or phrase - or sentence:

"God does not work that way..."

(It is unreasonable to reason probability with 'God could'.)

 

[2ndTimothyGroup]

Except if God is able to stop the sun, He is also more than able to stop everything and anything and still sustain life.

I couldn't agree more . . . which is why this whole argument seems futile and useless. But . . . that my opinion.

 

[GaryA]

Cool argument. I've never heard that one before.

Ball-Earth physics applied to the event description in scripture.

Except, of course, scripture indicates that God "paused" the sun in its circuit path...

 

[breno785au]

That is a very weak argument. It seeks to explain literally everything in the guise of a miracle of God without regard to the 'stability' of the 'system' God set up during creation week - which has not altered since.

In a word - or phrase - or sentence:

"God does not work that way..."

(It is unreasonable to reason probability with 'God could'.)

If God can stop the sun, he can stop anything.