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tell us why you're really here.
what are you hoping to accomplish with this thread?
I think you could tell them straight up the truth and they would still
accept you among them.

You know what they say...birds of a feather.
 

Journeyman

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So you believe that the great and awesome living God
in his infinite wisdom made a mistake and gave his Kingdom to unbelievers.
And now He has to take it back from them and give it to another
whom He knows will bring forth fruit?
Everywhere we look is God's Kingdom,

But the wicked shall be cut off from the earth, and the transgressors shall be rooted out of it. Pro.2:22

Let both grow together until the harvest Mt.13:30
 
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I am familiar with these words...

And fear not them which kill the body,
but are not able to kill the soul:
but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
oh please

IMO you are an actor and not a very good one at that :rolleyes:
 
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oh please

IMO you are an actor and not a very good one at that :rolleyes:
But I am the one with the power of the Holy Ghost and you are not.

How do you explain it? Or want to spin it...go for it.
 
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Everywhere we look is God's Kingdom,

But the wicked shall be cut off from the earth, and the transgressors shall be rooted out of it. Pro.2:22

Let both grow together until the harvest Mt.13:30
Then why did Jesus say....

Jesus answered,
My kingdom is not of this world:
if my kingdom were of this world,
then would my servants fight,
that I should not be delivered to the Jews:
but now is my kingdom not from hence.
 

Journeyman

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Then why did Jesus say....

Jesus answered,
My kingdom is not of this world:
if my kingdom were of this world,
then would my servants fight,
that I should not be delivered to the Jews:
but now is my kingdom not from hence.
Because,
the kingdom of God does not consist of food and drink, but righteousness, peace, and joy in the Holy Spirit. Rom.14:17

and
all that is in the world (the desire of the flesh and the desire of the eyes and the arrogance produced by material possessions) is not from the Father, but is from the world 1Jn.2:16
 
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Because,
the kingdom of God does not consist of food and drink, but righteousness, peace, and joy in the Holy Spirit. Rom.14:17

and
all that is in the world (the desire of the flesh and the desire of the eyes and the arrogance produced by material possessions) is not from the Father, but is from the world 1Jn.2:16
How do you account for this within the statements you made
to me in your post?

Luke 17:21
Neither shall they say,
Lo here! or, lo there! for,
behold, the kingdom of God is within you.
 

Journeyman

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How do you account for this within the statements you made
to me in your post?

Luke 17:21
Neither shall they say,
Lo here! or, lo there! for,
behold, the kingdom of God is within you.
Gods Kingdom is entered by faith in our Lord Jesus and his nature is planted and nutured in us. You don't need to physically walk anywhere. And the ungrateful don't thank God for allowing them to live in his creation.
 
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Hebrews
Chapter 8


For if that first covenant had been faultless,
then should no place have been sought for the second.
For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold,
the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant
with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:
Not according to the covenant
that I made with their fathers in the day
when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt;
because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord.
For this is the covenant that I will make with the
house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind,
and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
And they shall not teach every man his neighbour,
and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me,
from the least to the greatest.
For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness,
and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more.
In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old.

Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.

In the 8th chapter of the Book of Hebrews
the author states the beginning of a NEW COVENANT and the end of the OLD COVENANT.
"In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old.
Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away."

In this NEW COVENANT the author states:
"saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind,

and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God,
and they shall be to me a people". The author also states that
these people who God put in their hearts His laws "shall not teach every man his neighbour,

and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me,
from the least to the greatest".

QUESTION 1:
Why is it this does not fit any of you?
Or any of the other Christians in this world.
How do you explain it?


Why is the new covenant that you say you have with God
is not the same NEW COVENANT with God as recorded in Hebrews.
 

Journeyman

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Hebrews
Chapter 8


For if that first covenant had been faultless,
then should no place have been sought for the second.
For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold,
the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant
with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:
Not according to the covenant
that I made with their fathers in the day
when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt;
because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord.
For this is the covenant that I will make with the
house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind,
and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
And they shall not teach every man his neighbour,
and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me,
from the least to the greatest.
For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness,
and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more.
In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old.

Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.

In the 8th chapter of the Book of Hebrews
the author states the beginning of a NEW COVENANT and the end of the OLD COVENANT.
"In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old.
Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away."

In this NEW COVENANT the author states:
"saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind,

and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God,
and they shall be to me a people". The author also states that
these people who God put in their hearts His laws "shall not teach every man his neighbour,

and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me,
from the least to the greatest".

QUESTION 1:
Why is it this does not fit any of you?
Or any of the other Christians in this world.
How do you explain it?


Why is the new covenant that you say you have with God
is not the same NEW COVENANT with God as recorded in Hebrews.
As posthuman asked, what makes you think he doesn't?

God does, through his Son, put his law in the hearts of Christians. His law makes us aware that we are all sinners in need of his great mercy, the kind of mercy our Lord Jesus showed toward people who spit on him and did many other horrible things to him which he forgave them
 
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Lol!

What makes you think it doesn't, Mr Inquisitor?
The author also states that
these people who God put in their hearts His laws "shall not teach every man his neighbour,
and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me,
from the least to the greatest".


This is why none of you have the same covenant...this is not none of you.
 
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Is this the NEW COVENANT that the people who are coming to earth soon
who will have with their God?
 
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That preacher has Church a email an address and phone number. That man has a family wife. I know of the errors of some things he says preaches on but Christ loves him the same as He loves each of us. Lets bring this home. If you have have done it to the least of these my brethren (that is not only those we like or agree with) you have done it to me. So if we would never treat Christ like this.. please don't do it like this. Christ told Paul why are you persecuting me? Paul never touched Christ. Paul only hurt locked up killed those that believed in Jesus Christ.

So since you believe this preacher is in error.. speak words of life.. pray for him and his Church and his family. Hes grafted in like I am to the Vine.. Jesus Christ. Help them.. the WORLD will know you are mine by your love one for another. There are so many that believe like this preacher and are wrong right? Then SHOW Chapter and verse why they are. Maybe this time they with the holy Spirits help SEE the truth yes?
It is you that is in much error not him.
And to show you...I will debate you on it.
 

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The author also states that
these people who God put in their hearts His laws "shall not teach every man his neighbour,
and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me,
from the least to the greatest".


This is why none of you have the same covenant...this is not none of you.
Hmm, that means you don't.

Interesting.
 
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Does the wolf attack the weak or the strong?
Whose soever sins ye remit,
they are remitted unto them;
and whose soever sins ye retain,
they are retained.
 
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Hebrews
Chapter 8


For if that first covenant had been faultless,
then should no place have been sought for the second.
For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold,
the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant
with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:
Not according to the covenant
that I made with their fathers in the day
when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt;
because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord.
For this is the covenant that I will make with the
house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind,
and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
And they shall not teach every man his neighbour,
and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me,
from the least to the greatest.
For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness,
and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more.
In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old.

Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.

In the 8th chapter of the Book of Hebrews
the author states the beginning of a NEW COVENANT and the end of the OLD COVENANT.
"In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old.
Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away."

In this NEW COVENANT the author states:
"saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind,

and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God,
and they shall be to me a people". The author also states that
these people who God put in their hearts His laws "shall not teach every man his neighbour,

and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me,
from the least to the greatest".

QUESTION 1:
Why is it this does not fit any of you?
Or any of the other Christians in this world.
How do you explain it?


Why is the new covenant that you say you have with God
is not the same NEW COVENANT with God as recorded in Hebrews.
The anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you,
and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things,
and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.
 

posthuman

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Whose soever sins ye remit,
they are remitted unto them;
and whose soever sins ye retain,
they are retained.
yet you want to attack @Blain.
i don't think you understand who he is. there are very few people here who love as he loves, or have faith as he has faith.
Blain said they will know that we belong to Him by our love for each other -- and you said he was full of error.
you have no idea ((IMO)) what you did when you said that.


BTW that's a bad translation. the Greek is in a tense such that what is being said is "whosoever's sins ye remit, they shall have already been remitted in heaven" -- i.e. the action of the forgiveness of sin takes place in heaven before it ever enters the mind of the one in Christ to forgive them. which is to say -- you, little zero-wolf, have no power. all power and authority is in the Lord in heaven, and if you were in Him, you would be carrying out His will, not your own.
 

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where do the blind, lame, decrepit beggars on the street compelled to go with the servants to attend the Master's feast get wedding garments?

are you afraid to answer? why don't you? been asking for days.
got garment?