Support Israel? Yes or No? And Why?

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Truth7t7

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No, I believe the Jews will recognize the Messiah after the anti- Christ betrays them. I believe that remnant of Jews will be saved. Not Gentiles, not the church but Jews.
Ok, when these remnant "Jews" recognize Jesus Christ as Messiah and are saved, they become the Church correct?
 

Wansvic

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The quote referring to 1/3 would be Zechariah 13:8-9 below
Zechariah 13:8-9KJV
8 And it shall come to pass, that in all the land, saith the Lord, two parts therein shall be cut off and die; but the third shall be left therein.
9 And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, The Lord is my God.
Thank you for sharing this scripture.
 
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Some of today's enemies of The Kingdom are tomorrow's members of The Kingdom.

Remember a certain Saul of Tarsus?
I did not know that God let His enemies into the Kingdom of God.
I thought only His children got in?
 

CS1

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I believe you are not whom you claim to be on this forum. I know you.
And yes God has and will breach His own promise or covenant when
the other party forsakes it.
0000000 that is uncalled for.
 
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The promise in Genesis 9 is that God wont flood the earth again, and the rainbow is a sign of this promise

Do I believe the word covenant should be promise, yes
Numbers 14:34
After the number of the days in which ye searched the land, even forty days, each day for a year, shall ye bear your iniquities, even forty years, and ye shall know my breach of promise.
 

Lucy-Pevensie

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Is that what Proverbs 24:6 says? I don't think so, which is where the motto comes from.

There is soooo much evidence for the Holocaust Surf. Written, photographed, eye witnesses. Corrie Ten Boom, a Christian wrote "The Hiding Place". She and her family hid Jews. Someone told on them and the family themselves were arrested. She and her sister were sent to Ravensbrück. Her entire family died in the camps. She survived, but only because of a "glitch" in the clerical record. A week later all the women in her section were sent to the gas chambers. She wrote more books but The Hiding Place is her testimony of what she experienced with her sister. It's also a movie that you can watch for free on Youtube.
As you say The Holocaust has been well documented. Even filmed. I've visited several of the concentration camp sites myself.

Recommended reading:

Death Dealer: The Memoirs of the SS Kommandant at Auschwitz by Rudolf Höss (Non-Jewish witness)
Auschwitz Inferno: The Testimony of a Sonderkommando (If you can find it. It went out of print at one time. I have a very old copy)

Spectator in Hell: A British Soldier's Story by Colin Rushton (non-Jewish witness)
Night by Elie Wiesel (Romanian Jew)
Any work by Primo Levi. (Italian Jew)
 

CS1

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It don't matter what you are if you do not live in the doctrine of Christ
you have not the Father and the Son. You have not God. This includes all.
it does matter when you think you are better than others and make claims of falsehood against another. it rude and makes you look like a buffoon. I guess the KKK is ok to then if it doesn't matter they believe they live under the doctrine of Christ.

yes, All must be saved by and through the Lord Jesus there is no other way. All who support the land of Isreal have never said anything different. But remember I history your line of thinking had Calvinist and RCC killing Jews from the crusades to the WWII
 

CS1

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anyone who denies the Holocaust and the killing of Jews and others is a sick individual and deceived. it is no wonder those who hold the idea the jews are not relevant today and do so vehemently deny the holocaust too. Yet they say we are speaking false.

I ask you 0000000, Truth7t7, did the Killing of Jews happen in WWII?
 
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anyone who denies the Holocaust and the killing of Jews and others is a sick individual and deceived. it is no wonder those who hold the idea the jews are not relevant today and do so vehemently deny the holocaust too. Yet they say we are speaking false.

I ask you 0000000, Truth7t7, did the Killing of Jews happen in WWII?
I am thinking that not only did Jews get killed in ww2 but so did gentiles.

I would think a wise man would know this?
 

CS1

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I am thinking that not only did Jews get killed in ww2 but so did gentiles.

I would think a wise man would know this?
No one has denied that nor was that my question do you accept that was a terrible evil done to the Jews yes or no?
 

CS1

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Nah the truth is always hard on them who hate it.
The truth >? your truth you mean? answer my question. was what was done to the jews a terrible evil
 
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No one has denied that nor was that my question do you accept that was a terrible evil done to the Jews yes or no?
I was not there so I do not know.
 

Lucy-Pevensie

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anyone who denies the Holocaust and the killing of Jews and others is a sick individual and deceived. it is no wonder those who hold the idea the jews are not relevant today and do so vehemently deny the holocaust too. Yet they say we are speaking false.

I ask you 0000000, Truth7t7, did the Killing of Jews happen in WWII?
To be fair, he can speak for himself if he sees your post but I don't think Truth 747 denies The Holocaust.
 
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I do not know how much evil has been done to anyone in the past.
I was not there. But I do know what I see today with my own eyes.
 
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To be fair, he can speak for himself if he sees your post but I don't think Truth 747 denies The Holocaust.
What is your problem? So what someone does not believe what you believe...who are you?
No one from heaven made you anyone of authority over anyone on this forum.
 

CS1

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I was not there so I do not know.
I will take that you are a bigot and antisemitic then. You were not at the resurrection either but that did happen. Your answering is most troubling which leads me to believe you and many here like you are trolls and hateful of those that are 1. jews 2. who disagree with you. 3. that is not like you.
 

DeanM

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Should the KKK march through black neighborhoods, with capes and hoods celebrating white pride month, expecting no reaction?

The same applied to the protestant (Royal Order of Orange) in Ireland, beating their drums and marching the streets in Catholic Ireland, celebrating their anniversary of King William Boynes 1690 victory over Catholics in Ireland
Catholics hate jews too?
 

CS1

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What is your problem? So what someone does not believe what you believe...who are you?
No one from heaven made you anyone of authority over anyone on this forum.
then practice what you preach Huh? Please read the above comments you made and live by them then.