What is the Royal Law or Law of Liberty?
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Romans, like all the N. T. , should be read as a whole letter, not broken into pieces and individual theology built around the isolated pieces.
"Excuse sins"....what are you talking about? There's NO EXCUSE for any sin because sin is always a choice we make, not a condition out of which we can't break.
Yes, so why do so many erroneously conclude that the verse teaches it's not only possible to serve the Law of the Spirit with our minds while simultaneously serving the Law of Sin with our flesh? The "whole letter" proves that Paul is not establishing such ridiculous duality of service, but that he's ONCE AGAIN placing before us the choice to either serve the one or the other.
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Yet you excuse your sins. Because you can sin and do not need grace to have that sin forgiven, you just say sorry and poof your sin is gone,
walk in the Sprit and you will not fulfil the lust of the flesh.
but, when you ( and me) fail to walk in the Sprit, and stumble in the flesh, then we need forgiveness for that SIN.
but, see, you have to admit you sinned and ask for forgiveness, not deny you stumbled because you don't want to admit you sinned.
try that sometimes....
I don't believe in making excuses for sin, so where are you getting that?
i will answer your question when you answer this one-
is the sin nature of man eliminated at the time when one accepts Christ as savior??
It is no longer being bound to the Law of Moses, in which hundreds of laws had to be followed simply in order to obtain temporary redemption, the price paid to remain in relationship with God.
James understood that we are still obligated to such moral laws as were given under the Law of Moses. But being that we are no longer under that Covenant, we are not obligated to follow any of the ritual requirements associated with that covenant. In fact, we don't even keep the moral laws under that covenant any longer.
We are not not only free from having to keep all of those burdensome requirements, but we are also out under from the oppression of having to continuously depend on a full nation remaining in compliance. We can finally relax, knowing that *all* of the requirements of redemption have been met, and that for all eternity. Our only obligation now is to remain in a moral and spiritual relationship with God, as by an eternal vow.
25I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.
Here Paul is saying "with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin."
“with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.” Until a believer dies , or the Lord returns, the battle against the flesh goes on.
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Yet here you are thinking because you do not commit the big ones thinking your ok, while the rest of us just excuse our sin.
your betting your eternity on your righteousness, which in itself is sin, the worst one,
I'm not a fan of people "circling back" to my questions. But since you got the ball rolling, I'll answer that one when you answer this one:
Why do Antinomianists/OSAS Licensees cement their focus on the sin nature of the sinner, the human weakness of the sinner, Satan's enslavement of the sinner, etc., when the Saint is told to forget the things which are past and in obedience reach for the prize of eternal life with Jesus? (1 John 2:3-4 KJV; Philippians 3:12-13 KJV)
1 John 1:9KJV
9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
1 John 2:1KJV
1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
I can accept that, because the battle against the flesh does indeed continue until then.
What I can't accept is the use of this verse to excuse habitual, deliberate, known sin in the life of one who calls himself a Christian, which man the Bible plainly calls a liar in 1 John 2:4 KJV.
Whos using this verse in that way ? Your the one that keeps going on about this verse ?
I fully agree, the scripture is smack in your face, no guesswork needed, without excuse.
Its amazing how the world has gripped what is called the Church today
Disregard for Sabbath observance, Pagan Christmas & Easter Observance, and throw Adultery in there to, as a large percentage are in its grip, on 2nd, 3rd, 4th, marriages while spouses live, as pulpits are silent on the sin
1 John 2:3-4KJV
3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
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From everything you have said since I met you
You judge me. But will not judge yourself.