50 Reasons For a Pretribulational Rapture By Dr. John F. Walvoord
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... I *do* agree with you on this ^ point. = )^ --the thing that Jesus had said (during His earthly ministry / first advent) that "no man knoweth [perfect indicative]," not even He Himself (at the time), regarding the time of His Second Coming to the earth (per context), Matt24:36 (and parallels), He later disclosed *further information* on that very Subject in His LATER 95ad "[The] Revelation of Jesus Christ WHICH GOD GAVE UNTO HIM [/unto Jesus], to SHEW unto..." (Rev1:1 [4:1; 1:19c])
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Glad you will did not bet on that, because you would absolutely loose that BET.
The English is Caught Up.
We use the LATIN WORD to get Rapture, Here is the Word and what it means:
QUOTE:
Rapture is derived from Middle French rapture, via the Medieval Latin raptura ("seizure, kidnapping"), which derives from the Latin raptus ("a carrying off"). Wikipedia.
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John 14:3 (ESV)
3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and will take you to myself, that where I am you may be also.
1 Thessalonians 4:16-18 (HCSB)
16 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the archangel’s voice, and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first.
17 Then we who are still alive will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and so we will always be with the Lord.
18 Therefore encourage one another with these words.
Matthew 24:21-22 (HCSB)
21 For at that time there will be great tribulation, the kind that hasn’t taken place from the beginning of the world until now and never will again!
22 Unless those days were limited, no one would survive. But those days will be limited because of the elect.
Glad I could answer your misunderstanding.
antichrist is a NT term. In the NT that person is not said to uproot any of the ten horns of the Revelation 13:1 beast. It keeps all of the ten horns until the entire beast is destroyed.
Rev 17:12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.
All ten horns will receive power to be kings the full hour which is the 42 months so that proves no horns are uprooted.
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I assume this means you will be first in line to worship the image of the beast and receive the mark? Government will demand these things!
Rev 13:11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
Rev 13:12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
Rev 13:13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
Rev 13:14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
Rev 13:15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
Rev 13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
Rev 13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
Rev 13:11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
Rev 13:12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
Rev 13:13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
Rev 13:14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
Rev 13:15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
Rev 13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
Rev 13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
I have nothing to say against ignorance.It's like I can't read the Bible,Don't understand the scriptures of the Bible.
return of Jesus: for save
great women: for save
great tribulation: for save
If your understanding is out of salvation, then all your understanding is a wrong decision.
Jesus returns not only for save you, but for many even Unbelievers.
That's the key to understanding the Bible.
return of Jesus: for save
great women: for save
great tribulation: for save
If your understanding is out of salvation, then all your understanding is a wrong decision.
Jesus returns not only for save you, but for many even Unbelievers.
That's the key to understanding the Bible.
Jesus told those cowards as you put it " i go to prepare a place for you...."
He went to heaven.
Was noah a coward for not floating on a log amongst the bloating bodies?
Was lot a coward for leaving sodom?
The baby Jesus a coward for ESCAPING to egypt?
Was Jesus promoting cowardice by COMMANDING believers to pray for escape?????
He went to heaven.
Was noah a coward for not floating on a log amongst the bloating bodies?
Was lot a coward for leaving sodom?
The baby Jesus a coward for ESCAPING to egypt?
Was Jesus promoting cowardice by COMMANDING believers to pray for escape?????
1 Corinthians 2:12-16 (NCV)
12 Now we did not receive the spirit of the world, but we received the Spirit that is from God so that we can know all that God has given us.
13 And we speak about these things, not with words taught us by human wisdom but with words taught us by the Spirit. And so we explain spiritual truths to spiritual people.
14 A person who does not have the Spirit does not accept the truths that come from the Spirit of God. That person thinks they are foolish and cannot understand them, because they can only be judged to be true by the Spirit.
15 The spiritual person is able to judge all things, but no one can judge him. The Scripture says:
16 “Who has known the mind of the Lord? Who has been able to teach him?“ But we have the mind of Christ.
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1 Corinthians 2:12-16 (NCV)
12 Now we did not receive the spirit of the world, but we received the Spirit that is from God so that we can know all that God has given us.
13 And we speak about these things, not with words taught us by human wisdom but with words taught us by the Spirit. And so we explain spiritual truths to spiritual people.
14 A person who does not have the Spirit does not accept the truths that come from the Spirit of God. That person thinks they are foolish and cannot understand them, because they can only be judged to be true by the Spirit.
15 The spiritual person is able to judge all things, but no one can judge him. The Scripture says:
16 “Who has known the mind of the Lord? Who has been able to teach him?“ But we have the mind of Christ.
You're just saying you're saved, but the mind of Christ is to save all .
Matthew 7:13-14 (NCV)
13 “Enter through the narrow gate. The gate is wide and the road is wide that leads to hell, and many people enter through that gate.
14 But the gate is small and the road is narrow that leads to true life. Only a few people find that road.
Matthew 7:16-24 (HCSB)
16 You’ll recognize them by their fruit.
Are grapes gathered from thornbushes or figs from thistles?
17 In the same way, every good tree produces good fruit, but a bad tree produces bad fruit.
18 A good tree can’t produce bad fruit; neither can a bad tree produce good fruit.
19 Every tree that doesn’t produce good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.
20 So you’ll recognize them by their fruit.
21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord!’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but ⌊only⌋ the one who does the will of My Father in heaven.
22 On that day many will say to Me, ‘Lord, Lord, didn’t we prophesy in Your name, drive out demons in Your name, and do many miracles in Your name?’
23 Then I will announce to them, ‘I never knew you! Depart from Me, you lawbreakers!’
24 “Therefore, everyone who hears these words of Mine and acts on them will be like a sensible man who built his house on the rock.
Galatians 5:22-26 (HCSB)
22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faith,
23 gentleness, self-control. Against such things there is no law.
24 Now those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires.
25 Since we live by the Spirit, we must also follow the Spirit.
26 We must not become conceited, provoking one another, envying one another.
It is good that you do not disregard the sequence issues; nonetheless, you are misinterpreting the Olivet Discourse with regard to what you are touching upon in the quote above.
In the 'grammar of the language', the flow of thought process in Matthew 24 is such that verse 9 is a continuation of verse 6 and not verse 8.
Matthew 24:7-8 / Mark 13:8 / Luke 21:10-11 is an 'aside' - the thought process temporarily "shifts" away from the verse before the aside and returns to the verse after the aside. These verses are distinctly separated from what is before and after it - whereby - what is after it is a continuation of what is before it.
I am "real big" on paying close attention to:
~ what happens before what
~ what happens after what
~ what happens at the same time as what
But you also have to pay very close attention to the 'grammar of the language'.
In terms of the flow of thought process, verse 9 does not "follow" verse 8.
In the 'grammar of the language', the flow of thought process in Matthew 24 is such that verse 9 is a continuation of verse 6 and not verse 8.
Matthew 24:7-8 / Mark 13:8 / Luke 21:10-11 is an 'aside' - the thought process temporarily "shifts" away from the verse before the aside and returns to the verse after the aside. These verses are distinctly separated from what is before and after it - whereby - what is after it is a continuation of what is before it.
I am "real big" on paying close attention to:
~ what happens before what
~ what happens after what
~ what happens at the same time as what
But you also have to pay very close attention to the 'grammar of the language'.
In terms of the flow of thought process, verse 9 does not "follow" verse 8.