COVID-19 mRNA vaccines: How could anything developed this quickly be safe?

[bobo32]

just reading

People hospitalized with COVID-19 now have one overwhelming thing in common. They're not vaccinated.
Elizabeth Weise and Aleszu Bajak, USA TODAY
Wed, June 16, 2021, 7:48 AM


In Minnesota, the HealthPartners system has seen a “precipitous decline” in COVID-19 hospitalizations, says Dr. Mark Sannes, an infectious disease physician and senior medical director for the system, which operates nine hospitals and more than 55 clinics. But now, nearly every admitted patient he does see is unvaccinated.
“Less than 1% of our hospitalized COVID patients are vaccinated," he said.
In Ohio, at University Hospitals Cleveland Medical Center, only 2% of the COVID-19 patients admitted in the last month were vaccinated, said Dr. Robert Salata, the hospital's physician-in-chief.
And at Sanford Health, which runs 44 medical centers and more than 200 clinics across the Dakotas, Minnesota and Iowa, less than 5% of the 1,456 patients admitted with COVID-19 so far this year were fully vaccinated, said spokesperson Angela Dejene.
Falling rates of COVID-19 across the United States mask a harsh reality – the overwhelming majority of those getting sick and being hospitalized today are unvaccinated, while vaccinated patients are becoming rare.
Hospitals in states with the lowest vaccination rates tend to have more COVID-19 patients in intensive care units, according to hospital data collected in the past week by the Department of Health and Human Services and vaccination rates published by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
Wyoming, Missouri, Arkansas and Idaho currently have the highest percentage of COVID-19 patients on average in their ICUs; those states all have vaccinated less than 40% of their population.
Medical centers say there's also an obvious change in the age of their sickest patients, as older people are much more likely to be vaccinated than younger.
"We're all seeing the same thing – when someone does get sick and comes to the hospital, they're much more likely to be young and unvaccinated," said Dr. Robert Wachter, professor and chair of the Department of Medicine at the University of California, San Francisco.

 

[bobo32]

Cathy Bennett, president and CEO of the New Jersey Hospital Association, said the picture is the same in her state.
"As COVID vaccinations rolled out across New Jersey, there’s been a major shift in the ages of patients admitted to the hospital," said Bennett. "Unlike last spring, when those 65 and older accounted for the majority of hospitalizations, we’re now seeing more young people hospitalized with COVID."
In Ohio, Salata said the shift should be reassuring, showing the vaccines work.
"It sends a very strong message to the hesitancy people out there because the data speaks for itself," he said.
'It's not all about you'
Doctors say there are multiple reasons people aren't yet vaccinated. There are the hesitant, who still have questions and sometimes fall prey to misinformation, and the opposed, who often harbor anti-government or anti-science sentiments.
"We've had a little success when we've spoken to them on a one-to-one basis. We can give them the information that they need to make their decision," said Dr. Gerald Maloney, chief medical officer for hospital services at Geisinger health network, which runs nine hospitals in Pennsylvania.
Some still can't easily access vaccine, either because it's not available nearby or because they can't get time off work.
And while the U.S. government paid for all vaccines and vaccinations so no one should be charged, others remain fearful they will be on the financial hook for a shot, Maloney said.

Eleanor Leisenring speaks with Cheryl McHale, RN, after receiving the COVID-19 vaccine at a Geisinger community vaccine center in Danville, Pa.
Last week, Health and Human Services secretary Secretary Xavier Becerra clarified in a letter that providers may not bill patients for COVID-19 vaccines.
There's still a lot of work to be done to create the trust necessary for these groups to embrace vaccination, Maloney said.
"The people who say, 'It's my body, my choice?' Well, it's not all about you," he said. "It's also about the people that you're around."
At this point, every vaccination is a win, one more person who can't pass the virus along. That's especially true in families where children can't be vaccinated and are still at risk.
At Akron Children’s Hospital in Ohio, “we have not seen any kiddos who have been admitted to the hospital who have been vaccinated,” said Dr. Michael Bigham, a pediatric intensivist in the critical care unit.
Among children 11 and younger, who can’t yet get the vaccine, having vaccinated family members is keeping them out of the hospital, and protecting them against MIS-C, the multisystem inflammatory syndrome that can be a rare but dangerous aftereffect of a COVID-19 infection in children.
“Most of the kids we’re seeing in the hospital with COVID or MIS-C had COVID in their household, maybe a parent or a grandparent, and most of those individuals had not been vaccinated,” he said.
The message from health care workers is unanimous: They just aren't seeing many vaccinated people get sick.
In New Jersey, the percentage of COVID-19 hospitalizations among those ages 18 to 29 has increased 58% since the beginning of the year. By comparison, the percentage of COVID-19 hospitalizations among the 65 and older age group – with a statewide vaccination rate of more than 80% – declined by 31.2%.
The numbers are no coincidence, Bennett said.
"Vaccination," she said, "works in preventing severe COVID illness."

 

[DeanM]

And the scam continues.

 

[shittim]

another vaccine death 32 year old male, FB wouldn't let it be posted-
https://fromthetrenchesworldreport....l-johnson-and-johnson-covid-injections/284009

 

[DeanM]

another vaccine death 32 year old male, FB wouldn't let it be posted-
https://fromthetrenchesworldreport....l-johnson-and-johnson-covid-injections/284009

FB has to do their part to keep the sheep placid.

 

[gb9]

Cathy Bennett, president and CEO of the New Jersey Hospital Association, said the picture is the same in her state.
"As COVID vaccinations rolled out across New Jersey, there’s been a major shift in the ages of patients admitted to the hospital," said Bennett. "Unlike last spring, when those 65 and older accounted for the majority of hospitalizations, we’re now seeing more young people hospitalized with COVID."
In Ohio, Salata said the shift should be reassuring, showing the vaccines work.
"It sends a very strong message to the hesitancy people out there because the data speaks for itself," he said.
'It's not all about you'
Doctors say there are multiple reasons people aren't yet vaccinated. There are the hesitant, who still have questions and sometimes fall prey to misinformation, and the opposed, who often harbor anti-government or anti-science sentiments.
"We've had a little success when we've spoken to them on a one-to-one basis. We can give them the information that they need to make their decision," said Dr. Gerald Maloney, chief medical officer for hospital services at Geisinger health network, which runs nine hospitals in Pennsylvania.
Some still can't easily access vaccine, either because it's not available nearby or because they can't get time off work.
And while the U.S. government paid for all vaccines and vaccinations so no one should be charged, others remain fearful they will be on the financial hook for a shot, Maloney said.

Eleanor Leisenring speaks with Cheryl McHale, RN, after receiving the COVID-19 vaccine at a Geisinger community vaccine center in Danville, Pa.
Last week, Health and Human Services secretary Secretary Xavier Becerra clarified in a letter that providers may not bill patients for COVID-19 vaccines.
There's still a lot of work to be done to create the trust necessary for these groups to embrace vaccination, Maloney said.
"The people who say, 'It's my body, my choice?' Well, it's not all about you," he said. "It's also about the people that you're around."
At this point, every vaccination is a win, one more person who can't pass the virus along. That's especially true in families where children can't be vaccinated and are still at risk.
At Akron Children’s Hospital in Ohio, “we have not seen any kiddos who have been admitted to the hospital who have been vaccinated,” said Dr. Michael Bigham, a pediatric intensivist in the critical care unit.
Among children 11 and younger, who can’t yet get the vaccine, having vaccinated family members is keeping them out of the hospital, and protecting them against MIS-C, the multisystem inflammatory syndrome that can be a rare but dangerous aftereffect of a COVID-19 infection in children.
“Most of the kids we’re seeing in the hospital with COVID or MIS-C had COVID in their household, maybe a parent or a grandparent, and most of those individuals had not been vaccinated,” he said.
The message from health care workers is unanimous: They just aren't seeing many vaccinated people get sick.
In New Jersey, the percentage of COVID-19 hospitalizations among those ages 18 to 29 has increased 58% since the beginning of the year. By comparison, the percentage of COVID-19 hospitalizations among the 65 and older age group – with a statewide vaccination rate of more than 80% – declined by 31.2%.
The numbers are no coincidence, Bennett said.
"Vaccination," she said, "works in preventing severe COVID illness."

here in ga., we had a about a 20% positive rate for covid tests back in jan.


now, we are about 2 %.

only 35 % percent of ga, residents are vaccinated.

so, a 90% reduction in the virus with only a 35% vaccinated .

and, we had all restrictions removed in early april.

so, you see, the actual numbers do not bear out what you just said.

wish you covid worshipers would look at the actual numbers and ignore all the overblown hysteria.

 

[PennEd]

I continue to be baffled by the lack of discernment by so many pro vaxxer Christians. Look who’s on your side:

 

[shittim]

Is this not the separating of His sheep from the enemies goats?
Not all who claim to be Christian are truly Christian.
Jesus spoke also of those who have an outward form of godliness in these last of the last days.

 

[bobo32]

here in ga., we had a about a 20% positive rate for covid tests back in jan.


now, we are about 2 %.

only 35 % percent of ga, residents are vaccinated.

so, a 90% reduction in the virus with only a 35% vaccinated .

and, we had all restrictions removed in early april.

so, you see, the actual numbers do not bear out what you just said.

wish you covid worshipers would look at the actual numbers and ignore all the overblown hysteria.

first, I am not a covid worshiper, that is an insult to suggest any Christian would worship any other than Jesus
I also do not see any reference to Ga. in the article.
it would seem that your source of statistics is superior to the source in the article I posted even though they are similar agency's.
if you can prove the post I made is false please, do so.

 

[gb9]

first, I am not a covid worshiper, that is an insult to suggest any Christian would worship any other than Jesus
I also do not see any reference to Ga. in the article.
it would seem that your source of statistics is superior to the source in the article I posted even though they are similar agency's.
if you can prove the post I made is false please, do so.

everything from the government and the media ( for the most part one and the same) should be taken as a half-truth at best.

so, those parts of your post would be a good start.

covid is a overblown, overcounted hoax.

the c d c says, on the covid page of their own website that covid can be "presumed or confirmed " to be counted as a positive case or death.

 

[DeanM]

everything from the government and the media ( for the most part one and the same) should be taken as a half-truth at best.

so, those parts of your post would be a good start.

covid is a overblown, overcounted hoax.

the c d c says, on the covid page of their own website that covid can be "presumed or confirmed " to be counted as a positive case or death.

A distraction for the U.S. communist party to steal the election and usher in Obamas third term and also a great opportunity to do damage to the economy. What the power brokers in other parts of the world used it for I dont know as I stopped watching any news years ago. Maybe thats why I didnt fall for the covid farce. Amazing what one can see from the outside looking in.

 

[cv5]

UPDATE FROM SYDNEY: All New COVID Hospitalizations Involve Vaccinated Individuals Except One

https://rumble.com/vkba8x-update-fr...spitalizations-involve-vaccinated-indivi.html

 

[Nehemiah6]

...we’re now seeing more young people hospitalized with COVID."

Do you know why Cathy?
1. If these people were vaccinated they were in fact infected with spike proteins. And they may also be suffering from the serious adverse effects of the vaccines (which you failed to mention).

2. Because you failed to offer early treatment with ivermectin and HCQ, they ended up in hospital. No one should ever have been hospitalized.

So to all the Cathy's out there: You are directly responsible for creating this sickness and then refusing to give the proper treatment. The whole medical establishment is complicit.

 

[cv5]

UPDATE FROM SYDNEY: All New COVID Hospitalizations Involve Vaccinated Individuals Except One

https://rumble.com/vkba8x-update-fr...spitalizations-involve-vaccinated-indivi.html

Somebody check but this video could possibly be in error.....

 

[Dude653]

Every vaccine ever has cases of side effects but they are relatively rare. The chances of the vaccine killing me are probably about 8 million to one

 

[gb9]

according to the " official numbers" , ( which are way overblown and overcounted), covid here in america has a 98,5% survival rate, so i will just go with my immune system instead of a vax..

 

[shittim]

Smart, very smart the
vax" isn't a vaccine.
the "vax" wasn't created for "covid" the fake "covid" scam was created to deliver the poison vax.

 

[shittim]

 

[iamsoandso]

I think it's because they hate Trump and so their just saying things that are opposite to make him look bad. It looks like everyone is pretending to be Trump supporters when they aren't really and so their just saying it's bad. The whole time D.Trump is who created the Operation warp speed that gave us the vaccine in record time https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Warp_Speed

D. Trump took the vaccine himself (He isn't dead so it's safe) https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/01/politics/trump-melania-vaccinated-white-house/index.html and S. Sanders is trying to tell everyone that they should give the credit for getting it created and available in warp-speed to it's rightful source, Donald Trump https://www.foxnews.com/politics/sa...ises-trumps-operation-warp-speed-in-new-op-ed

 

[PennEd]

I think it's because they hate Trump and so their just saying things that are opposite to make him look bad. It looks like everyone is pretending to be Trump supporters when they aren't really and so their just saying it's bad. The whole time D.Trump is who created the Operation warp speed that gave us the vaccine in record time https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Warp_Speed

D. Trump took the vaccine himself (He isn't dead so it's safe) https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/01/politics/trump-melania-vaccinated-white-house/index.html and S. Sanders is trying to tell everyone that they should give the credit for getting it created and available in warp-speed to it's rightful source, Donald Trump https://www.foxnews.com/politics/sa...ises-trumps-operation-warp-speed-in-new-op-ed

This post really reveals the ignorance of many people who think those that voted for, and support, Donald Trump, did so because they vote and support over a cult of personality.
That’s how they vote. Not on issues. So they think that’s how others vote.

Nothing could be further from the truth. People support Trump because of the platform he put forth, and the vigorous way in which he tried to implement it.

The absurdity of thinking that people will take a dangerous gene therapy because Donald Trump endorses it is laughable and sad at the same time.