Leftist Thinking Is The Most Destructive Element In Existence

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Well said. One could summarize what you have said with this aphorism:

PROGRESSIVISM/LIBERALISM/LEFTISM/SOCIALISM/MARXISM/COMMUNISM/FASCISM/LENINISM/STALINISM/MAOISM/ TYRANNY/TOTALITARIANISM/ GLOBALISM/WOKISM/CANCEL CULTURISM
ARE ALL SPAWNED BY SATAN AND ARE ALL GODLESS.
u forgot one

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America will be foremost in compelling the world to bow down and worship the First Beast of Revelation 13.

The Ecumenical Movement is doing a fine job bringing it all together, especially convincing "Protestants" to trust in Papal many papal errors.
my belief at this time is that Catholics and Protestants (but NOT all) will unite to form the fake church and the True Church will be persecuted--- meaning those who truly love Jesus and adhere to His Commandments (not suggestions, commandments.. "If you love Me you will keep My Commandments")

It will be a war between the real believers and the fake ones.. just as it is now a war between true conservatives and... everyone else.

The Catholic Church which I was "raised in" (though I was not catechized well and ... long story) is all but gone from the face of the earth, it seems... that's just MY take. God may see things differently, but I do know that God and I are on the same page in many ways...

In any case, none of this changes the fact that the Catholic Church was/is the One Church founded by Jesus Christ. Persecute me for saying that if you will but it happens to be the unadulterated truth. I have "done the math"... I have read the early Church fathers.. I have read the entire Bible and am reading through it again. Contrary to waht some nonCatholics say, the Catholic Church is NOT anti-biblical... In fact, you will find Catholicism in the Bible.. you just have to open your eyes and your mind and heart.. and stop believing what others have told you. A person should definitely read the early Church fathers (who spoke in a Catholic way... the Church was called Catholic at least as early as 107 AD [extant writings show])

And again, I refer to the OLD Catholic Church.. not this new thing that came along after Vat II
 
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my belief at this time is that Catholics and Protestants (but NOT all) will unite to form the fake church and the True Church will be persecuted--- meaning those who truly love Jesus and adhere to His Commandments (not suggestions, commandments.. "If you love Me you will keep My Commandments")

It will be a war between the real believers and the fake ones.. just as it is now a war between true conservatives and... everyone else.

The Catholic Church which I was "raised in" (though I was not catechized well and ... long story) is all but gone from the face of the earth, it seems... that's just MY take. God may see things differently, but I do know that God and I are on the same page in many ways...

In any case, none of this changes the fact that the Catholic Church was/is the One Church founded by Jesus Christ. Persecute me for saying that if you will but it happens to be the unadulterated truth. I have "done the math"... I have read the early Church fathers.. I have read the entire Bible and am reading through it again. Contrary to waht some nonCatholics say, the Catholic Church is NOT anti-biblical... In fact, you will find Catholicism in the Bible.. you just have to open your eyes and your mind and heart.. and stop believing what others have told you. A person should definitely read the early Church fathers (who spoke in a Catholic way... the Church was called Catholic at least as early as 107 AD [extant writings show])

And again, I refer to the OLD Catholic Church.. not this new thing that came along after Vat II
The key to determining which church Christ did and did not establish, as well as which church is Christ's true church today is found in Revelation 12:17 KJV and Revelation 14:12 KJV, and please pay special attention to the emphasis:

Revelation 12:17 KJV:
"And the dragon (Satan) was wroth with the woman (church) and went to make war with the REMNANT OF HER SEED..."
(a "remnant" of a thing looks exactly like the the entire thing, as a remnant of a bolt of carpet perfectly matches what was at the beginning of that bolt of carpet -- no changes)

"...which keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ."

Revelation 14:12 KJV:
"...keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus."
Therefore, God's "remnant" church today is the same as it was in the beginning:
  • the church which keeps the commandments of God
  • has the testimony of Jesus aka "Spirit of Prophecy" (Revelation 19:10 KJV)
  • and has the faith of Jesus Who went to the Cross saying "not My will, but Thine be done"
Catholicism has never taught the commandments of God, does not possess the Spirit of Prophecy, and demands faith be in the Popes/Priesthood - not Jesus - for salvation.

The early church was established in Palestine, not Rome, and that which was moved and headquartered in Rome was not God's church, for God's church had fled from apostasy into the wilderness, as the prophecies said she would - she emerged completely from the wilderness during the era of the Protestant Reformation.
 
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America will be foremost in compelling the world to bow down and worship the First Beast of Revelation 13.

The Ecumenical Movement is doing a fine job bringing it all together, especially convincing "Protestants" to trust in Papal many papal errors.
Interesting post.

The book of Daniel establishes the meaning of hybrid animal/human beasts as representing a system, religion or nation. Horns proceeding out of the head of these hybrid beasts represent leaders or a succession of leaders.

The sea beast of revelation represents the Roman Catholic Church. It's established in Rome, has multiple horns/leaders/popes and is supported by a world of "peoples and nations and tongues" as interpreted by Revelation 17.

Also of interest is the earth beast, which gives its support to the sea beast. Notice if you will that the earth beast of Revelation has only two horns. Horns represent leadership or leaders and its rather odd that the United States has only two leadership parties. It is the only nation on earth with only two. Many have only one and many have several parties in power, but America has only two. Despite numerous efforts to establish a third party with real power, America remains the only beast system with two horns of power.

Consider also that American protestants march in lock-step with Vatican doctrine and tradition - especially with regard to interpretation of the End Times, which is completely unBiblical. RCC FUTURISM dictates the End Times myth, which is constantly and continually preached in protestant churches despite its lack of scriptural substance and logic. The dogma of the Tribulation, for instance, is especially abhorrent in that it justifies anti-Semitic hatred and murder of Jews as an act pleasing to God. In this version of hate language Jews are subjected to tribulation until and unless they join a church. If this isn't hate language, then tell me what is. In all of this, the protestant church of America underlines and supports RCC doctrine.

There's more, but few will accept even this small bit of truth.

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Interesting post.

The book of Daniel establishes the meaning of hybrid animal/human beasts as representing a system, religion or nation. Horns proceeding out of the head of these hybrid beasts represent leaders or a succession of leaders.

The sea beast of revelation represents the Roman Catholic Church. It's established in Rome, has multiple horns/leaders/popes and is supported by a world of "peoples and nations and tongues" as interpreted by Revelation 17.

Also of interest is the earth beast, which gives its support to the sea beast. Notice if you will that the earth beast of Revelation has only two horns. Horns represent leadership or leaders and its rather odd that the United States has only two leadership parties. It is the only nation on earth with only two. Many have only one and many have several parties in power, but America has only two. Despite numerous efforts to establish a third party with real power, America remains the only beast system with two horns of power.

Consider also that American protestants march in lock-step with Vatican doctrine and tradition - especially with regard to interpretation of the End Times, which is completely unBiblical. RCC FUTURISM dictates the End Times myth, which is constantly and continually preached in protestant churches despite its lack of scriptural substance and logic. The dogma of the Tribulation, for instance, is especially abhorrent in that it justifies anti-Semitic hatred and murder of Jews as an act pleasing to God. In this version of hate language Jews are subjected to tribulation until and unless they join a church. If this isn't hate language, then tell me what is. In all of this, the protestant church of America underlines and supports RCC doctrine.

There's more, but few will accept even this small bit of truth.

that's me, hollering from the choir loft...
Some have described the Second Beast's "two horns with no crowns" to mean "a country with no king and a church with no Pope"....or "Protestantism and Republicanism"...

But, for a surety, there is only ONE nation that fits all the identifying marks of prophecy that can be called the "antichrist" - Rome. I know why people are decieved by Jesuit Futurism - it's because they've been following it for so long, it's like an old friend they refuse to believe has been an enemy all this time. The Reformers knew the Papacy was the Antichrist, men who ate, slept, meditated on, shed their blood for, the Bible, while so called "Christians" who think "freedom in Christ" is a license to pollute their minds with filth fancy themselves more "spiritually discerning" than these great men of old.

Make no mistake, friends, America is the Second Beast which will force the entire world to bow down to Rome's authority, while God's true church is Biblically defined as those who keep the commandments of God and have the faith and testimony of Jesus. Can't wait for Him to finally come and put an end to all this hypocrisy and antinomianism.
 
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No matter if the topic at hand has to do with politics, science, education, social issues, or religion, Leftism is like a destructive, malignant cancer that spreads throughout these arenas of ideas, infecting both spectators and participants with deadly consequences.

Regarding politics, one need look no further than the events of the 2020 U.S. Presidential election - what an absolute destruction of all that is Constitutional and lawful. Congress, the Judiciary, and every single alphabet agency has been exposed as either sympathetic to - or too cowardly to resist - the tyranny of communism, the ultimate leftist ideology.

Regarding science, in the past, members of the atheistic scientific community admitted their motivation to erase God through (false) science had to do with God "getting in the way of our hedonistic desires" - so, disprove the existence of God, then with a clear conscious pursue whatever depraved, licentious desire you fancy. Did you know the "father of Artificial Intelligence", Marvin Minsky, was on Jeffery Epstein's "Lolita Express" flight logs?

Regarding education, leftists have taken control of education at every level and have eradicated the teaching of Civics and replaced it with Social Justice, Liberation Theology, 1619 Project, etc., all based on distorted facts/outright lies about history, economics, political agendas, and the development of the U.S. and its contribution to modern society.

Regarding social issues, the left continually seeks to place blame for the lack of economic, educational, and societal success of certain minorities in the U.S. squarely on the shoulders of Anglo-Americans, refusing to allow as a point of discussion the absolute, undeniable, well documented root cause of these failures: the destruction of the minority family unit through government welfare dependency programs, the architects of which being the leftists themselves.

Regarding religion, leftist thinking has replaced the Biblical axioms of "Speak, Lord; for thy servant heareth" and "not My will by Thy will" with endless rounds of rationalism, higher criticism, sympathy toward existentialism, situation ethics - every mechanism you can dream of in order to question what is plainly stated in the Word of God, often resulting in interpretations that are the antithesis of what God originally said.

Alas, the problem of leftist thinking will ever be with us as "the wheat and tares grow together" - and we must pray for patience in dealing with Christian leftists, lest we uproot them and bring upon ourselves the displeasure of a God Who loves them as much as He loves anyone else. It's easy to love the truth...the challenge we must face and overcome is to love the brethren.
I beg to differ. Leftist thinking is NOT the most destructive political element in existence.

WAR IS THE ULTIMATE EXTENSION OF POLITICS BY OTHER MEANS. - Clauswitz

In America, the entire nation is drunk on the brutality of war. This has been true since the Vietnam war and continues to destroy the political & financial structure of our nation.

"If an American is concerned only about his nation, he will not be concerned about the peoples of Asia, Africa, or South America. Is this not why nations engage in the madness of war without the slightest sense of penitence? Is this not why the murder of a citizen of your own nation is a crime, but the murder of citizens of another nation in war is an act of heroic virtue? " - Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr.

No one, and I do mean no American considers the ramifications and pure unadulterated immorality of the wars we as Americans have been pursuing. At present the United States is illegally involved in more than SIX foreign wars. This does not include the War on Drugs, which is an ongoing joke since our government has no intention of stopping the flow of drugs into America.

Matthew 5:9 quotes Jesus saying, "blessed are the peacemakers for they shall be called the children of God."

SO..... if peacemakers are the children of God, what definition does the American war machine fulfill? Answer truthfully, for NO American politician dares to consider peace as an alternative to our globalized war. The United States has the largest military on the planet - so large in fact that our navy is bigger than the next seventeen nations combined, most of which are our allies. Is such a behemoth necessary for defense or is it necessary to feed the maw of the military-industrial complex?

The most highly decorated Marine Corps General in US history, Smedley D. Butler understood all too well the real nature of the US Marine Corps and US foreign policy in general when he concluded after his retirement in 1931 that;
"I spent 33 years and four months in active military service, and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism."

As a six year permanently wounded veteran, I can testify as to the truth of General Butler's comment. Chicken hawks, or those who only sit in padded arm chairs and wave the flag, usually disagree.

The national debt is crippling the nation even as our innocent youth are being called out to defend the nation. Their service has nothing at all to do with defense of our homes, but everything to do with defending corporate American assets abroad. This situation is criminal and downright wrong, but good Christians from the Atlantic to the Pacific shore all agree that war is the best policy.

What happened to peace? It is not even considered in the battle for the minds and hearts of Americans? It's all about partisan politics and the smoke screen designed to goad us into yet more wars. Someone will doubtless call me out on this post. To them I say that I strive to be a child of God and seek peace. Patriotism shrouded in war is not Christian, neither does it benefit the country.

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I beg to differ. Leftist thinking is NOT the most destructive political element in existence.

WAR IS THE ULTIMATE EXTENSION OF POLITICS BY OTHER MEANS. - Clauswitz

In America, the entire nation is drunk on the brutality of war. This has been true since the Vietnam war and continues to destroy the political & financial structure of our nation.

"If an American is concerned only about his nation, he will not be concerned about the peoples of Asia, Africa, or South America. Is this not why nations engage in the madness of war without the slightest sense of penitence? Is this not why the murder of a citizen of your own nation is a crime, but the murder of citizens of another nation in war is an act of heroic virtue? " - Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr.

No one, and I do mean no American considers the ramifications and pure unadulterated immorality of the wars we as Americans have been pursuing. At present the United States is illegally involved in more than SIX foreign wars. This does not include the War on Drugs, which is an ongoing joke since our government has no intention of stopping the flow of drugs into America.

Matthew 5:9 quotes Jesus saying, "blessed are the peacemakers for they shall be called the children of God."

SO..... if peacemakers are the children of God, what definition does the American war machine fulfill? Answer truthfully, for NO American politician dares to consider peace as an alternative to our globalized war. The United States has the largest military on the planet - so large in fact that our navy is bigger than the next seventeen nations combined, most of which are our allies. Is such a behemoth necessary for defense or is it necessary to feed the maw of the military-industrial complex?

The most highly decorated Marine Corps General in US history, Smedley D. Butler understood all too well the real nature of the US Marine Corps and US foreign policy in general when he concluded after his retirement in 1931 that;
"I spent 33 years and four months in active military service, and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism."

As a six year permanently wounded veteran, I can testify as to the truth of General Butler's comment. Chicken hawks, or those who only sit in padded arm chairs and wave the flag, usually disagree.

The national debt is crippling the nation even as our innocent youth are being called out to defend the nation. Their service has nothing at all to do with defense of our homes, but everything to do with defending corporate American assets abroad. This situation is criminal and downright wrong, but good Christians from the Atlantic to the Pacific shore all agree that war is the best policy.

What happened to peace? It is not even considered in the battle for the minds and hearts of Americans? It's all about partisan politics and the smoke screen designed to goad us into yet more wars. Someone will doubtless call me out on this post. To them I say that I strive to be a child of God and seek peace. Patriotism shrouded in war is not Christian, neither does it benefit the country.

that's me, hollering from the choir loft...
And which mindset thrives on war? Not true Conservatives. We don't want war, but unfortunately, evil men find their way into power and convince us that we must "defend ourselves against the abroad", but again, they are being misled by servants of Beelzebub. Leftists who LOVE to engage in exploitation, subjugation and dominance, and murder of the innocent, because their minds are controlled by the devil.

Even in Biblical times, God ordained the borders of His people and eventually brought them to the land, intending to drive out the occupants with hornets - not by war.

Today, Luciferian secret societies run the world, and they are leftist to the core.
 
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It is better to stay out of politics, its purpose is to polarize us

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No matter if the topic at hand has to do with politics, science, education, social issues, or religion, Leftism is like a destructive, malignant cancer that spreads throughout these arenas of ideas, infecting both spectators and participants with deadly consequences.

Regarding politics, one need look no further than the events of the 2020 U.S. Presidential election - what an absolute destruction of all that is Constitutional and lawful. Congress, the Judiciary, and every single alphabet agency has been exposed as either sympathetic to - or too cowardly to resist - the tyranny of communism, the ultimate leftist ideology.

Regarding science, in the past, members of the atheistic scientific community admitted their motivation to erase God through (false) science had to do with God "getting in the way of our hedonistic desires" - so, disprove the existence of God, then with a clear conscious pursue whatever depraved, licentious desire you fancy. Did you know the "father of Artificial Intelligence", Marvin Minsky, was on Jeffery Epstein's "Lolita Express" flight logs?

Regarding education, leftists have taken control of education at every level and have eradicated the teaching of Civics and replaced it with Social Justice, Liberation Theology, 1619 Project, etc., all based on distorted facts/outright lies about history, economics, political agendas, and the development of the U.S. and its contribution to modern society.

Regarding social issues, the left continually seeks to place blame for the lack of economic, educational, and societal success of certain minorities in the U.S. squarely on the shoulders of Anglo-Americans, refusing to allow as a point of discussion the absolute, undeniable, well documented root cause of these failures: the destruction of the minority family unit through government welfare dependency programs, the architects of which being the leftists themselves.

Regarding religion, leftist thinking has replaced the Biblical axioms of "Speak, Lord; for thy servant heareth" and "not My will by Thy will" with endless rounds of rationalism, higher criticism, sympathy toward existentialism, situation ethics - every mechanism you can dream of in order to question what is plainly stated in the Word of God, often resulting in interpretations that are the antithesis of what God originally said.

Alas, the problem of leftist thinking will ever be with us as "the wheat and tares grow together" - and we must pray for patience in dealing with Christian leftists, lest we uproot them and bring upon ourselves the displeasure of a God Who loves them as much as He loves anyone else. It's easy to love the truth...the challenge we must face and overcome is to love the brethren.
"The most destructive element in existence"

I think fire, water or wind are the most destructive elements...

I wouldn't call leftist thinking an element... It's a concept or ideology I reckon...

So then, I think leftist thinking is the most destructive ideology or concept in existance...

Aside from semantics I think we're basically in agreement...
 
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And which mindset thrives on war? Not true Conservatives. We don't want war, but unfortunately, evil men find their way into power and convince us that we must "defend ourselves against the abroad", but again, they are being misled by servants of Beelzebub. Leftists who LOVE to engage in exploitation, subjugation and dominance, and murder of the innocent, because their minds are controlled by the devil.

Even in Biblical times, God ordained the borders of His people and eventually brought them to the land, intending to drive out the occupants with hornets - not by war.

Today, Luciferian secret societies run the world, and they are leftist to the core.
The reader is missing my point - point being that the ENTIRE nation is drunk on war.

You wrote, "Not true Conservatives. We don't want war,"

Need I remind the reader of this post that the Kuwait war(s) were instigated by those we usually call conservatives - President George H.W. Bush. 911 and the wars that followed, which continue to this day, were begun by conservatives - President George W. Bush and his gang of administrators (Dick Cheney for the most part). Liberals do not have their hands clean either, since President Obama continued the policy of drone assassination of innocent people (including in at least one case an American citizen).

He or she who pledges allegiance to the government of this nation is a supporter of its policies. It has been long established that the civilian population of a nation is as much a part of a war effort as the soldiers in the front line. Attend or watch any reunion of a soldier with his or her family and you'll see what I mean. When I returned from active duty more than half a century ago I was greeted with the F bomb. This is not so today. Everybody expresses their love and support of our murdering warriors abroad. Make no mistake, the whole operation is illegal by any and every standard one wishes to employ.

Jesus NEVER supported the government, either Jewish or Roman. He paid the legal taxes and obeyed civil laws. That's it and that's all He gave unto Caesar. That's all that's expected of us (Romans 13:1).

Finally, the 1st commandment must be respected and obeyed. If God is given 100% of our allegiance, then there is nothing of that sort reserved for the government. Its NOT a 50/50 proposition!

America has turned its back upon God. We have ignored and denied Him to the extent that consideration of that which is due to HIM has been neglected even by Sunday church going folks. Nearly every church has an American flag on display in the front of the auditorium. The flag is posted with all other symbols and flags to its own left according to flag etiquette. This means that every other icon is subservient and of less importance than the flag - including the cross displayed in the middle.

God is judging America and His thrashing will continue to be worse as time goes by. Until and unless we humble ourselves and repent of our SINs and wickedness the troubles that visit us will become greater and greater.

If conservatives don't want WAR, why do they support it? No one wants peace, dear sir - nobody.

I am not a liberal, btw. I am a servant of God. To Him alone do I give my allegiance.

that's me, hollering from the choir loft...

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I am a registered Libertarian because I refuse to be identified with either major party.
 
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It is better to stay out of politics, its purpose is to polarize us

Ephesians 4:3
Politics, in a democratic society, is a device provided to the voting public to voice their choices as to how their government ought to be administered and by whom.

Unfortunately the political engine that drives our nation has been corrupted to the point that it is major financial contributors that guide political policy, not voters. As soon as any candidate is elected to public office his or her first concern is to begin fund raising for reelection. Voters contribute little or nothing to the process while mega contributors provide the funding for candidacy. It is their voice and intentions that are respected, not the voters. This is why the phrase, "America has been sold out" is used today. It is no longer the nation of the voter. The government belongs to big corporations and their interests.

That being said, it is an historic trend for great empires to die by division. Internal forces begin to rip them apart and when financial difficulty arises to a critical point the whole corrupt edifice crumbles into the dust of history. This cycle has repeated over and over again throughout history. It is happening in America. Division is the primary engine of destruction for all empires. It killed the Soviet Union, the Roman Empire and ancient Israel and it is destroying America.

The vultures are already at work eating away at the dead carcass of a once great nation.

Watch and learn, pilgrim.

The nation is dying because we have forgotten God - turned our backs upon Him and denied our need for His protection. No conservative policy will save us, only the blood of Christ Jesus.

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Jesus didn't have to convince His people to distrust the government...they were already well aware of how corrupt and evil it was.

Today, Christians everywhere swallow hook, line, and sinker whatever lies the government tells them - lies told by those who are now undeniably exposed as leftists and RINOs bent on robbing us of our wealth and both kinds of freedom, political AND religious...hence the OP.
So you know all Christians everywhere? That's a big statement. You lose credibility by statements without a basis. Christians can and should conform to the legal authorities, unless in direct contradiction of God's word. Christians have the indwelling Holy Spirit to lead and guide into the truth. Governments do not save anyone. Lord Jesus is King of Kings and Lord of Lords, not Donald Trump or Joe Biden. Lord Jesus rules, not the USA.

If Christians only knew it, we are the real authority in heaven and earth. Lord Jesus gave us His power, authority and name. Instead of bleating about the state of the world, we should be binding Satan, resisting him and breaking his hold over the earth and the people of the earth. A few do know this. Satan fears them more than any others. He attacks them more than any others also. God's grace is sufficient and we overcome.

Expect the world to be corrupt and deceived. God has ensured that it will happen.
2 Thessalonians 2:
9The coming of the lawless one will be accompanied by the working of Satan, with every kind of power, sign, and false wonder, 10and with every wicked deception directed against those who are perishing, because they refused the love of the truth that would have saved them. 11For this reason God will send them a powerful delusion so that they believe the lie, 12in order that judgment may come upon all who have disbelieved the truth and delighted in wickedness.

Those who are born again are not deluded. If we will stay close to Lord Jesus, keep ourselves humble and ask Him to keep us in the truth, he will protect us from deception. It is not automatic. Oh, and anyone who imagines that he cannot be deceived is already deceived.
 

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Well said. One could summarize what you have said with this aphorism:

PROGRESSIVISM/LIBERALISM/LEFTISM/SOCIALISM/MARXISM/COMMUNISM/FASCISM/LENINISM/STALINISM/MAOISM/ TYRANNY/TOTALITARIANISM/ GLOBALISM/WOKISM/CANCEL CULTURISM
ARE ALL SPAWNED BY SATAN AND ARE ALL GODLESS.
The USA has declined morally under both Republican and Democrat administrations. Don't blame the people of the world. If you are a Christian, go look in the mirror. The rot began in the 60's with the "do your own thing" selfishness that gripped the youth. Woodstock was a symptom of the rot setting in. It's been all downhill since. Lord Jesus gave His authority and power to the church. What have we done with it? From what I can see, not a whole lot that relates to the Kingdom of God.

God is judging the Western nations, especially the USA. God has blessed the USA and God requires much in return. The USA is losing its way, its influence and its power. China and Russia were once allies. If they get together again, the USA will be in real strife. About the only place the USA retains superiority is militarily. I am not at all confident that she will retain superiority. China is fast catching up, courtesy of the ability to steal secrets from the Western world.
 
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Acts 4:32-35 is leftist
Can't be leftist -- no mention of any forced confiscations via the business end of a gun barrel....y'know, just like what happens every time Leftist government is tried?
 
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"The most destructive element in existence"

I think fire, water or wind are the most destructive elements...

I wouldn't call leftist thinking an element... It's a concept or ideology I reckon...

So then, I think leftist thinking is the most destructive ideology or concept in existance...

Aside from semantics I think we're basically in agreement...
Yes, using "Ideology" would have been a more appropriate title..thanks.
 
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The reader is missing my point - point being that the ENTIRE nation is drunk on war.

You wrote, "Not true Conservatives. We don't want war,"

Need I remind the reader of this post that the Kuwait war(s) were instigated by those we usually call conservatives - President George H.W. Bush. 911 and the wars that followed, which continue to this day, were begun by conservatives - President George W. Bush and his gang of administrators (Dick Cheney for the most part). Liberals do not have their hands clean either, since President Obama continued the policy of drone assassination of innocent people (including in at least one case an American citizen).

He or she who pledges allegiance to the government of this nation is a supporter of its policies. It has been long established that the civilian population of a nation is as much a part of a war effort as the soldiers in the front line. Attend or watch any reunion of a soldier with his or her family and you'll see what I mean. When I returned from active duty more than half a century ago I was greeted with the F bomb. This is not so today. Everybody expresses their love and support of our murdering warriors abroad. Make no mistake, the whole operation is illegal by any and every standard one wishes to employ.

Jesus NEVER supported the government, either Jewish or Roman. He paid the legal taxes and obeyed civil laws. That's it and that's all He gave unto Caesar. That's all that's expected of us (Romans 13:1).

Finally, the 1st commandment must be respected and obeyed. If God is given 100% of our allegiance, then there is nothing of that sort reserved for the government. Its NOT a 50/50 proposition!

America has turned its back upon God. We have ignored and denied Him to the extent that consideration of that which is due to HIM has been neglected even by Sunday church going folks. Nearly every church has an American flag on display in the front of the auditorium. The flag is posted with all other symbols and flags to its own left according to flag etiquette. This means that every other icon is subservient and of less importance than the flag - including the cross displayed in the middle.

God is judging America and His thrashing will continue to be worse as time goes by. Until and unless we humble ourselves and repent of our SINs and wickedness the troubles that visit us will become greater and greater.

If conservatives don't want WAR, why do they support it? No one wants peace, dear sir - nobody.

I am not a liberal, btw. I am a servant of God. To Him alone do I give my allegiance.

that's me, hollering from the choir loft...

PS

I am a registered Libertarian because I refuse to be identified with either major party.
Why did over 120+million Conservatives get behind Trump who campaigned on bringing our troops home? (yeah, that's probably closer to the number of people who voted for him).
 
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So you know all Christians everywhere? That's a big statement. You lose credibility by statements without a basis.
No basis? If not "God and country" heard all around the country? At Trump rallies? On display via the "Christian flag" and the American flag standing side by side on every pulpit on TV? Let's not be unnecessarily provocative and simply ASK for clarification next time.
Christians can and should conform to the legal authorities, unless in direct contradiction of God's word. Christians have the indwelling Holy Spirit to lead and guide into the truth. Governments do not save anyone. Lord Jesus is King of Kings and Lord of Lords, not Donald Trump or Joe Biden. Lord Jesus rules, not the USA.

If Christians only knew it, we are the real authority in heaven and earth. Lord Jesus gave us His power, authority and name. Instead of bleating about the state of the world, we should be binding Satan, resisting him and breaking his hold over the earth and the people of the earth. A few do know this. Satan fears them more than any others. He attacks them more than any others also. God's grace is sufficient and we overcome.

Expect the world to be corrupt and deceived. God has ensured that it will happen.
2 Thessalonians 2:
9The coming of the lawless one will be accompanied by the working of Satan, with every kind of power, sign, and false wonder, 10and with every wicked deception directed against those who are perishing, because they refused the love of the truth that would have saved them. 11For this reason God will send them a powerful delusion so that they believe the lie, 12in order that judgment may come upon all who have disbelieved the truth and delighted in wickedness.

Those who are born again are not deluded. If we will stay close to Lord Jesus, keep ourselves humble and ask Him to keep us in the truth, he will protect us from deception. It is not automatic. Oh, and anyone who imagines that he cannot be deceived is already deceived.
The fact that Christians are supposed to be "light" and "salt" had done little to convince them to give up seeking a political solution for our preservation and start seeking Jesus to come for our evacuation. Like the song says, too many of us want to go to heaven, we just don't want to go right now.

Back in the late 90's, my dad told a woman who claimed to believe in both Once Saved Always Saved and Immortal Soul doctrine that she really didn't believe in either one, because if she did, she would have taken a gun and killed her family and herself so that they could go and immediately be with Jesus instead of wasting time in this miserable world of heartbreak...then he told her that Heaven's Gate cult believed Jesus was in that spaceship in the tail of the comet, and they acted on their faith.
 
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It is better to stay out of politics, its purpose is to polarize us

Ephesians 4:3
Did you read the entire post? Politics is just one of several areas where Leftism has been shown to be an agent of destruction. Which ideology condemns Creationism and exalts the lie of Evolution? Leftism. What has become of the American Educational system? Leftist indoctrination, et al.

Paul says we are not to be ignorant of the devil's devices, and the antidote for ignorance is to get informed.