Could the tribulation start this year?

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Blik

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I think it's a nice notion overall, but there is no so-called "feast of trumpets." It's supposed to be a day of rest with a memorial made with shouting or blasting of horns or both, plus when worshipers bring offerings made with fire. (lev 23)

Uhm, but your notion that the feast of tabernacles is after the millennial reign is pretty interesting i never thought of that. but according to the description given in lev 23, it's possible.
This feast IS biblical, it is called Rosh Hashanah by the Jews,

"The Lord said to Moses, “Say to the Israelites: ‘On the first day of the seventh month you are to have a day of sabbath rest, a sacred assembly commemorated with trumpet blasts. "(Leviticus 23:23-25)
 
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@Nehemiah6

Actually.....

Know what Luke wrote.

Luke 21:11-12

There will be great earthquakes, famines, and pestilences in various places, along with fearful sights and great signs from heaven.​

But before all this, they will seize you and persecute you. On account of My name they will deliver you to the synagogues and prisons, and they will bring you before kings and governors.​

Tribulation of Christians don't need to happen exactly as people have Anti-Christ, but we don't really know when this will be. If you remember, Jesus was already persecuted and hated by Jews before they had Pilate release Jesus Barabbas, which seems like an Anti-Christ type if you look at the name alone.
Now I just got to wait for this to happen.
 
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This feast IS biblical, it is called Rosh Hashanah by the Jews,

"The Lord said to Moses, “Say to the Israelites: ‘On the first day of the seventh month you are to have a day of sabbath rest, a sacred assembly commemorated with trumpet blasts. "(Leviticus 23:23-25)
Where does it say "you will keep to me a feast"?
 
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de-emerald

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So I don't make threads often but when I do it is because I feel or believe something strongly and I personally think the tribulation could very well begin this year. For those of you who know I am a pretrib rapture believer and while I leave room for me being wrong and end up having to go through the tribulation I truly feel myself looking up more when I did my recent bible prophecy study.
And some of you may know as well I study biblical numerology as numbers are used all throughout the bible as if a hidden language and used precicely in each manner of which it is used I found a site on this subject a while back https://www.biblestudy.org/bibleref/meaning-of-numbers-in-bible/21.html and it has so far been amazing in helping me understand and the number 21 and this year has been on my eyes for a while now because it does seem to symbolize great wickeness and rebellion and sin ehich if you look at things in the world right now the wickedness corruption and sin is by far worse than it has been in a good while.

My next thing is the number 22 which seems to represent great disorder and chaos and again the link is herehttps://www.biblestudy.org/bibleref/meaning-of-numbers-in-bible/22.html Also remember how Jesus said on the mount of olives how the generation will see all these things come to pass? what is a generation according to scripture? the bible says it is 70 years or by reason of strength 80 years, now pay attention to Israel and how it became a nation again in 1948 now lets add 80 years to that and what is it? 2028 what is 7 minus that? 2021 why does God begin the great tribulation to begin with? the great rebellion and sin of man.
This is only a little of my studies but I just felt God telling me to make this thread how it is recieved is in his hands
Also for those who have been worried I have not been online much I was put into an institute by family for the mentally disabled which I don't belong in but have nowhere to go and the internet here is very finicky plus I have been working a lot as well but God has been with me and speaking to me so I figure he must have me here for a reason
hi blain i have my disserments for never getting involved in theese tpe of topics. its sutch a sketchy subject. my main diserment is the bible clearly tells us that only the father knows and that no man will know the hour or the day.. which makes me wonder are we rejecting the will of Jesus by trying to work out if we are close to that day..

I do believe like you that there will be a 7 years of tribulation for everyone in some way and that there will be signs and wonders..

I suppose you could say the world wide pandemic is for everyone,, but hasnt there allready been world wide pandemics and hasnt there been goverments scaming people for years and years ?

Can i just ask you what is the reason for your self in believing you have the authority to question when the hour or day will be based on this scripture
No One Knows the Day or Hour
mathew 24
36 “But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of [a]heaven, but My Father only.

Personaly speaking i feals its a sin to question when this hour or day will be,
maybe you dont feal its a sin and i just wonder why you wouldnt feal its a sin.
 
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Now I just got to wait for this to happen.
Well, there is a catch. I only talk about the revival because I think you'll need it over there. I see the church to be dead now, and the truth is Earth is going to face a lot of turmoil in the next few years at most. Satan is out to kill you. Us all, but America is most in danger. If you have no idea what I'm talking about, then please seek the Lord about what is coming to the land. Destruction is insufficient to describe it.

I don't know how old you are, but you have to understand what globalists are doing and planning against the whole world, and through technology.
 

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don't know how old you are, but you have to understand what globalists are doing and planning against the whole world, and through technology.
Interesting, I read same of that. Base of what you read, who behind globalist, is Vatican involve?
 

Blain

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hi blain i have my disserments for never getting involved in theese tpe of topics. its sutch a sketchy subject. my main diserment is the bible clearly tells us that only the father knows and that no man will know the hour or the day.. which makes me wonder are we rejecting the will of Jesus by trying to work out if we are close to that day..

I do believe like you that there will be a 7 years of tribulation for everyone in some way and that there will be signs and wonders..

I suppose you could say the world wide pandemic is for everyone,, but hasnt there allready been world wide pandemics and hasnt there been goverments scaming people for years and years ?

Can i just ask you what is the reason for your self in believing you have the authority to question when the hour or day will be based on this scripture
No One Knows the Day or Hour
mathew 24
36 “But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of [a]heaven, but My Father only.

Personaly speaking i feals its a sin to question when this hour or day will be,
maybe you dont feal its a sin and i just wonder why you wouldnt feal its a sin.
Yes that is most common quote to use for being watchful but do you remember the rest of the verse?

The Day and Hour Unknown
36 “But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son,[f] but only the Father. 37 As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. 38 For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark; 39 and they knew nothing about what would happen until the flood came and took them all away. That is how it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. 40 Two men will be in the field; one will be taken and the other left. 41 Two women will be grinding with a hand mill; one will be taken and the other left.


42 “Therefore keep watch, because you do not know on what day your Lord will come. 43 But understand this: If the owner of the house had known at what time of night the thief was coming, he would have kept watch and would not have let his house be broken into. 44 So you also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him.


45 “Who then is the faithful and wise servant, whom the master has put in charge of the servants in his household to give them their food at the proper time? 46 It will be good for that servant whose master finds him doing so when he returns. 47 Truly I tell you, he will put him in charge of all his possessions. 48 But suppose that servant is wicked and says to himself, ‘My master is staying away a long time,’ 49 and he then begins to beat his fellow servants and to eat and drink with drunkards. 50 The master of that servant will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour he is not aware of. 51 He will cut him to pieces and assign him a place with the hypocrites, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.


taking a single verse out of the whole message is cherry picking and makes it say something else entirely, he clearly warns to be watchful and you know had the magi not known the sign to look for the messiah to be born they would never had gone to him but they were watchful and knew the sign to look for so they were not unaware as Jesus says to not be so no it is not a sin it's being obedient
 

Blain

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It's not what I meant. I didn't mean a certain Anti-Christ king will come before a tribulation. I meant persecution is because of the Anti-Christ spirit. I meant that there has to be hatred of Jesus name just as the Pharisees deemed it blasphemous.
Yes this is true but this also happens in the tribulation it doesn't happen before it
 

Blain

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Interesting, I read same of that. Base of what you read, who behind globalist, is Vatican involve?
Yes the vatican is involved and is actually a major player
 

Blain

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hi blain i have my disserments for never getting involved in theese tpe of topics. its sutch a sketchy subject. my main diserment is the bible clearly tells us that only the father knows and that no man will know the hour or the day.. which makes me wonder are we rejecting the will of Jesus by trying to work out if we are close to that day..

I do believe like you that there will be a 7 years of tribulation for everyone in some way and that there will be signs and wonders..

I suppose you could say the world wide pandemic is for everyone,, but hasnt there allready been world wide pandemics and hasnt there been goverments scaming people for years and years ?

Can i just ask you what is the reason for your self in believing you have the authority to question when the hour or day will be based on this scripture
No One Knows the Day or Hour
mathew 24
36 “But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of [a]heaven, but My Father only.

Personaly speaking i feals its a sin to question when this hour or day will be,
maybe you dont feal its a sin and i just wonder why you wouldnt feal its a sin.
And also I would like to add that I have authority in Christ not to question but to be watchful and look for his coming and for the season of the end just because I have the wisdom to be watcful doesn't mean I am going against God in fact I would dare say it is being disobedient to not be watchful
 

de-emerald

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And also I would like to add that I have authority in Christ not to question but to be watchful and look for his coming and for the season of the end just because I have the wisdom to be watcful doesn't mean I am going against God in fact I would dare say it is being disobedient to not be watchful
Hi again blain i do understand why people want to know the hour and the day. I also feal that signs and wonders could make me think this is it, this is start of pretrib just like you here.. Personaly i dont think its me or you that are looking for signs. but the signs indicating we are close.
How ever bro ive seen so many predictions proved wrong since the year 2000.

Beaware of false profits the lord said. you know what i mean,, Jesus is with you allways there and theres no need to go looking for the return of our lord, i think is the message from mathew Psalm 27:14 14Wait for the LORD; be strong and take heart and wait for the LORD.

False prophesy of predicting the exact date of the lord is the concern for me not the signs or fealing like the time is close .. you would be misled to join in the predictions of the exact date of a pretrib brother.
 

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Hi again blain i do understand why people want to know the hour and the day. I also feal that signs and wonders could make me think this is it, this is start of pretrib just like you here.. Personaly i dont think its me or you that are looking for signs. but the signs indicating we are close.
How ever bro ive seen so many predictions proved wrong since the year 2000.

Beaware of false profits the lord said. you know what i mean Jesus is with you allways there and theres no need to go looking for the return of our lord i think is the message from mathew Psalm 27:14 14Wait for the LORD; be strong and take heart and wait for the LORD.

False prophesy of predicting the exact date of the lord is the concern for me not the signs or fealing like the time is close .. you would be misled to join in the predictions of the exact date of a pretrib brother.
There has certainly been plenty of false dates prophecised. Every year before Sept the Feast of Trumpets they say this is it.
 

Blik

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There has certainly been plenty of false dates prophecised. Every year before Sept the Feast of Trumpets they say this is it.
And every year could be the year the feast of trumpets announces that Christ has returned.

We can only be properly prepared like the five of the ten virgins were prepared for the bridegroom.
 
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And every year could be the year the feast of trumpets announces that Christ has returned.

We can only be properly prepared like the five of the ten virgins were prepared for the bridegroom.
First will Satan coming out as the fake 2nd Coming of Jesus Christ. Very short amount of time later, Real Jesus Christ comes.

1 Thessalonians 5:3-5
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3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.
4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.
5 Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness.
 

Blain

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Hi again blain i do understand why people want to know the hour and the day. I also feal that signs and wonders could make me think this is it, this is start of pretrib just like you here.. Personaly i dont think its me or you that are looking for signs. but the signs indicating we are close.
How ever bro ive seen so many predictions proved wrong since the year 2000.

Beaware of false profits the lord said. you know what i mean,, Jesus is with you allways there and theres no need to go looking for the return of our lord, i think is the message from mathew Psalm 27:14 14Wait for the LORD; be strong and take heart and wait for the LORD.

False prophesy of predicting the exact date of the lord is the concern for me not the signs or fealing like the time is close .. you would be misled to join in the predictions of the exact date of a pretrib brother.
Yes sadly many to thise day still try to predict the exact day but this was not the purpose of this thread it didn't even have to do with the rapture it had to do with the tribulation.
I do think it is possible that it could happen this year or maybe even next year and it was niave of me to try to keep this thread focused on that topic I should have known that it would always end up being about the rapture that was unavoidable I suppose but even so I still think we would be wise to pay attention and to study deeper because no matter our stance on the rapture and the tribulation God is showing us the signs but I worry that we have seen so many false teachers and prophets that we have hardened our hearts from seeing and knowing what is to come

More than anything this thread should bring us and provoke us to go deeper I have no interest in any more heated debates about who is right I created this thread to bring everyone closer and to hopefully find others who are just as passionate in the study of bible prophecy as me not to be right or to arm ourselves for debates but because our spirits can feel a tug to look closer
 
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Yes sadly many to thise day still try to predict the exact day but this was not the purpose of this thread it didn't even have to do with the rapture it had to do with the tribulation.
I do think it is possible that it could happen this year or maybe even next year and it was niave of me to try to keep this thread focused on that topic I should have known that it would always end up being about the rapture that was unavoidable I suppose but even so I still think we would be wise to pay attention and to study deeper because no matter our stance on the rapture and the tribulation God is showing us the signs but I worry that we have seen so many false teachers and prophets that we have hardened our hearts from seeing and knowing what is to come

More than anything this thread should bring us and provoke us to go deeper I have no interest in any more heated debates about who is right I created this thread to bring everyone closer and to hopefully find others who are just as passionate in the study of bible prophecy as me not to be right or to arm ourselves for debates but because our spirits can feel a tug to look closer

Matthew 24:6-14

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6 And you will hear of wars and rumors of wars. See that you are not troubled; for [a]all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet. 7 For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. And there will be famines, [b]pestilences, and earthquakes in various places. 8 All these are the beginning of sorrows.
9 “Then they will deliver you up to tribulation and kill you (God's elect), and you will be hated by all nations for My name’s sake. 10 And then many will be offended, will betray one another, and will hate one another. 11 Then many false prophets will rise up and deceive many. 12 And because lawlessness will abound, the love of many will grow cold. 13 But he who endures to the end shall be saved. 14 And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come.

Bible tells us God's elects will be jailed or killed.
 

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No one knows the day or the hour... the birth pains are already started but will just get worse.