Warning to Christians: Totally Refuse COVID Vaccines

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shittim

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TheIndianGirl said:
You are implying a lot of false accusations including that I support mandates which I don't. My issue is that a lot of antivaxxers are making exaggerations about the vaccine, INCLUDING WHETHER OR NOT THE PERSON WHO TOOK THE VACCINE IS A CHRISTIAN! The vaccine survival rate is like 99.9 percent, there are some unfortunate people who pass away/have serious side effects for whatever reason. However, the way you/antivaxxers write, it is like a 50/50 chance.
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Jesus was very clear that there would be many with an outward form of godliness denying the power in these days, the power He died to bring us as He now indwells the believer is to give us His guidance in what to do, in ALL things.
Those who claim to be Christian yet lean on their own understanding denying His loving desire to guide us in ALL truth miss the mark. Do you really claim to be Christian and yet fail to seek Him first in all things?
I hope His love is so great as to cover those who do so, I hope and pray those who truly seek His direction and guidance as He commands will continue even though surrounded by those who miss the mark.
 
TabinRivCA

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Ok then is this a lie or what's going on:
According to data from the Florida Department of Health, there have been at least 3,081 coronavirus-related deaths reported in the state this month, which accounts for approximately 46 percent of the state's total number of deaths, which currently stands at 6,586. (2020)

No one should be called evil for wanting to protect themselves or their family. Just like those who don't want the vax for their reasons, I know many Christians who have taken the vax for their concern for their children, parents, grandchildren, etc.
To get angry and insulting over this is what I would call unChristianlike. Billy Graham's son who heads Samaritan Purse is a 'pro-vaxer' and sure, none of us are perfect, but I wouldn't label him as someone who has 'missed the mark'. Labeling a brother or sister, someone who is acting out of good intentions, as someone forcing a sinister agenda, I find out of character for a Christian.
Am I missing something, if so, enlighten me please.
 
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TabinRivCA said:
Ok then is this a lie or what's going on:
According to data from the Florida Department of Health, there have been at least 3,081 coronavirus-related deaths reported in the state this month, which accounts for approximately 46 percent of the state's total number of deaths, which currently stands at 6,586. (2020)

No one should be called evil for wanting to protect themselves or their family. Just like those who don't want the vax for their reasons, I know many Christians who have taken the vax for their concern for their children, parents, grandchildren, etc.
To get angry and insulting over this is what I would call unChristianlike. Billy Graham's son who heads Samaritan Purse is a 'pro-vaxer' and sure, none of us are perfect, but I wouldn't label him as someone who has 'missed the mark'. Labeling a brother or sister, someone who is acting out of good intentions, as someone forcing a sinister agenda, I find out of character for a Christian.
Am I missing something, if so, enlighten me please.
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I think we are talking to the wrong crowd here my friend. According to the people here, (my experience: if you don't agree you'll be put in ignore) we will all die in 3 years, and any information that is not from the sources they scavenge from is not valid.
 
cv5

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TabinRivCA said:
Ok then is this a lie or what's going on:
According to data from the Florida Department of Health, there have been at least 3,081 coronavirus-related deaths reported in the state this month, which accounts for approximately 46 percent of the state's total number of deaths, which currently stands at 6,586. (2020)

No one should be called evil for wanting to protect themselves or their family. Just like those who don't want the vax for their reasons, I know many Christians who have taken the vax for their concern for their children, parents, grandchildren, etc.
To get angry and insulting over this is what I would call unChristianlike. Billy Graham's son who heads Samaritan Purse is a 'pro-vaxer' and sure, none of us are perfect, but I wouldn't label him as someone who has 'missed the mark'. Labeling a brother or sister, someone who is acting out of good intentions, as someone forcing a sinister agenda, I find out of character for a Christian.
Am I missing something, if so, enlighten me please.
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Nobody is going to know the results of these inoculations for 2-3 or more years. As for myself and my wife, and most of our family........we are not participating in a medical experiment. Our Nanay (filipino for grandmother) is particularly opposed to vaccination. She has stated that she is willing to go to prison rather than be forced to be vaccinated.
 
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cv5 said:
Nobody is going to know the results of these inoculations for 2-3 or more years. As for myself and my wife, and most of our family........we are not participating in a medical experiment. Our Nanay (filipino for grandmother) is particularly opposed to vaccination. She has stated that she is willing to go to prison rather than be forced to be vaccinated.
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IF in 2-3 yrs millions of people all over the world start dropping off, well we'll have an answer for the whole world to see and be afraid. I've come to live by the Scripture' Cast all our cares on Him for He cares for us'.
 
shittim

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and will keep us from harm IF we seek His direction first.
 
TabinRivCA

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shittim said:
and will keep us from harm IF we seek His direction first.
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Yes shittim and like I said I have many Christian friends in my zoom groups and Church. Some think they are protecting their family esp children by getting the vax and some will not get the vax. I'm glad to say we all get along greatly and enjoy our fellowship time.
 
PC123

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U can't believe how quickly people's mora
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I really don't think they care too much if a few people die/suffer if it is for the greater good (to be fair, this is the same mentality in warfare).
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This the most sickening thing that I've read... I can't get over the fact that people are now comfortable with vaccine deaths... The moral standard of society has all but vanished...

"Oh but it's only 99.9%"... Do the math...
8 billion world population that equals 8 million deaths from vaccines and people like you are saying its ok its for the greater good...

How about you die from the vaccine then since your promoting such evil... How about your family dies from the vaccine "for the greater good"... Bad luck it's warfare...

I thought u were better than that @TheIndianGirl but what your promoting is evil manifested by Satan himself...

You are not the almighty Lord... Intentionally taking away someone's life is murder
 
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TabinRivCA said:
Yes shittim and like I said I have many Christian friends in my zoom groups and Church. Some think they are protecting their family esp children by getting the vax and some will not get the vax. I'm glad to say we all get along greatly and enjoy our fellowship time.
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TabinRivCA:
Thanks for posting your point of view here.
Where I'm from I've known people who contracted polio and known others that died from pertussis and so on, because vaccines took long to reach and because how things work in third world countries. You don't know how much lives are saved until you experience it. In the comfort of our 1st world problems we can become blinded to what reality is. The side effects of this vaccine are the same ones as with any other: some symptoms from the actual disease but less intensity as from the disease. Close relatives have been sick with COVID, one of them the same age of my parents, it's not a cold and depending on the strain it hits different parts of your body. But again, whoever shines actual knowledge and facts here gets shut with all the conspiracy garbage, because that's more dramatic and attractive to hear, so whatever.
Just like with any disease in this world, we work, research, try to get on with our lives, I seek wisdom from God in that manner, and if this vaccine brings me death in 3 years so be it, sooner rather than later in heaven.
 
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PC123 said:
U can't believe how quickly people's mora


This the most sickening thing that I've read... I can't get over the fact that people are now comfortable with vaccine deaths... The moral standard of society has all but vanished...

"Oh but it's only 99.9%"... Do the math...
8 billion world population that equals 8 million deaths from vaccines and people like you are saying its ok its for the greater good...

How about you die from the vaccine then since your promoting such evil... How about your family dies from the vaccine "for the greater good"... Bad luck it's warfare...

I thought u were better than that @TheIndianGirl but what your promoting is evil manifested by Satan himself...

You are not the almighty Lord... Intentionally taking away someone's life is murder
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What is evil is your unfounded numbers.

The only deaths linked to vaccines are the ones related to an anaphylactic shock which can happen by you being stung by a bee or by an antibiotic or by eating peanuts if you're allergic.

"How about you die from the vaccine then since your promoting such evil... How about your family dies from the vaccine "for the greater good"... Bad luck it's warfare..."

Seriously? How Godly and Christian of you... love how you stand on your moral high ground there, look at you! :)
 
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What is evil is your unfounded numbers.

The only deaths linked to vaccines are the ones related to an anaphylactic shock which can happen by you being stung by a bee or by an antibiotic or by eating peanuts if you're allergic.

"How about you die from the vaccine then since your promoting such evil... How about your family dies from the vaccine "for the greater good"... Bad luck it's warfare..."

Seriously? How Godly and Christian of you... love how you stand on your moral high ground there, look at you! :)
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the numbers are actually worse and going up as I type this

why don't you look up the heart problems now being associated with 2 vaccines instead of coming out swinging at someone who knows what you do not seem able to comprehend. you seem quite angry and hopefully you do not really mean to spout those kinds of comments as highlighted above. you would hardly be in a place to mock someone else's Christianity making those comments IMO

Myocarditis and Pericarditis Following mRNA COVID-19 Vaccination

  • Since April 2021, there have been more than a thousand reports to the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) of cases of inflammation of the heart—called myocarditis and pericarditis—happening after mRNA COVID-19 vaccination (i.e., Pfizer-BioNTech, Moderna) in the United States.

and that is just one type of side effect
 
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TheIndianGirl said:
The major people who promoted the vaccine such as Fauci took the vaccine; I don't think they would take it (and especially ask their family/loved ones to take it) if they knew they would only live a few years. mRNA technology has also been researched for awhile. That said, I think the scientists who promoted the vaccine think more at the macro level (such as how to get a downward trend, etc.) rather than individuals. I really don't think they care too much if a few people die/suffer if it is for the greater good (to be fair, this is the same mentality in warfare).
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smh
 
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SophieT said:
the numbers are actually worse and going up as I type this

why don't you look up the heart problems now being associated with 2 vaccines instead of coming out swinging at someone who knows what you do not seem able to comprehend. you seem quite angry and hopefully you do not really mean to spout those kinds of comments as highlighted above. you would hardly be in a place to mock someone else's Christianity making those comments IMO

Myocarditis and Pericarditis Following mRNA COVID-19 Vaccination

  • Since April 2021, there have been more than a thousand reports to the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) of cases of inflammation of the heart—called myocarditis and pericarditis—happening after mRNA COVID-19 vaccination (i.e., Pfizer-BioNTech, Moderna) in the United States.

and that is just one type of side effect
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Myocarditis and Pericarditis are known symptoms of Covid-19, not death sentences. So read the post before that: "The side effects of this vaccine are the same ones as with any other: some symptoms from the actual disease but less intensity as from the disease."
People do not die from that. It's a symptom of the disease itself, which is a common but rare side effect of any vaccine. I'm out of this discussion though. Let ignorance take over, it seems that's what prevails here.
 
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TheIndianGirl said:
The major people who promoted the vaccine such as Fauci took the vaccine; I don't think they would take it (and especially ask their family/loved ones to take it) if they knew they would only live a few years. mRNA technology has also been researched for awhile. That said, I think the scientists who promoted the vaccine think more at the macro level (such as how to get a downward trend, etc.) rather than individuals. I really don't think they care too much if a few people die/suffer if it is for the greater good (to be fair, this is the same mentality in warfare).
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PC123 said:
This the most sickening thing that I've read... I can't get over the fact that people are now comfortable with vaccine deaths... The moral standard of society has all but vanished...

"Oh but it's only 99.9%"... Do the math...
8 billion world population that equals 8 million deaths from vaccines and people like you are saying its ok its for the greater good...

How about you die from the vaccine then since your promoting such evil... How about your family dies from the vaccine "for the greater good"... Bad luck it's warfare...

I thought u were better than that @TheIndianGirl but what your promoting is evil manifested by Satan himself...

You are not the almighty Lord... Intentionally taking away someone's life is murder
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To be fair, @TheIndianGirl didn't say she agreed with or was promoting the mentality of a "few dying for the greater good", she's just pointing out that some scientists might be thinking along those lines. I think you owe her an apology not only for your false assumption but for basically wishing death on her and her family. That was not a loving, kind, or Christian thing to say and you make those of use that choose not to vaccinate look like bigger fools than the world already sees us as by wishing death on others.
 
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flygplan said:
What is evil is your unfounded numbers
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Fact - Under 4 million people have died with covid world wide... Average death age of 85
Fact - She claimed that 99.9% of people are surving the vaccines... That is 8 million deaths world wide of people of all ages

Anyone still promoting vaccines, lockdowns and covid fear is abetting the evil one
 
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To be fair, @TheIndianGirl didn't say she agreed with or was promoting the mentality of a "few dying for the greater good", she's just pointing out that some scientists might be thinking along those lines. I think you owe her an apology not only for your false assumption but for basically wishing death on her and her family. That was not a loving, kind, or Christian thing to say and you make those of use that choose not to vaccinate look like bigger fools than the world already sees us as by wishing death on others.
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Anyone promoting vaccines, lockdowns, masks or any covid fear is abetting evil...
I stand by that...
 
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Societies moral standards have vanished

85 year olds dying from a virus and we must panic and sacrifice our lives

But 8 million young people dying from vaccines and its all for the greater good... And yet they still say its all safe and effective
Lies, lies, lies... The father of lies is behind all this

An 85 year old is supposed to die from a virus...
A 20 year old is not supposed to die from a vaccine...

No its not okay to kill young people in order to save old people... Its unethical, immoral, criminal and evil...
We are not God to be taking peoples lives. Its all about money and power, nothing more.

Such people need wake up to them selves because they are living a delusional fantasy of cognitive dissonance that is manifested by Satan... At least just shut up and take your vax but no, they have to push it on everyone...

I'll never take an experimental vaccine, in fact im never taking any vaccine ever again... My body my choice
 
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Genipher said:
Or perhaps they are just naive and need mercy from us.
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True, maybe they are unwillingly abetting evil but should we allow them to continue doing so???
Iv shown these people mercy until recently, iv made all kinds of excuses for them and my patience is gone...

Knowing or unknowingly, such people are promoting evil... They can take the vax and just shut up instead of pushing Satans agenda
 
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