The Law

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Many of us believe that the Holy Spirit indwells all at the moment we are born again. This makes a personal relationship immediately available to all.
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It is false and comes with the danger of not engaging the teaching and finding the actual truth...

Many will come saying Lord Lord ... but I will not know them

Why? Because they have not known him...

This experience of oneness is the Good News

The purpose of human life

To bring about unity, bit by bit, and build a paradise together

Acts 4:32-36 talks about how they started it
 
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A man of the world, of the ego, will act for himself and his interests only
 
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H3n0515 said:
Acts 4:32-36 talks about how they started it
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Things have been going in the wrong direction ever since, and will continue doing so until the Rapture.

Time for beddy-byes. Nighty night.:sleep:
 
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Satan means adversary...

Those who divide the oneness are not of the Spirit

Yet we are not to be drones: 1 Corinthians 12:12-27

Each "part" has its purpose and we are better when our collective strengths are combined
 
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oyster67 said:
Things have been going in the wrong direction ever since, and will continue doing so until the Rapture.

Time for beddy-byes. Nighty night.:sleep:
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Henosis is rapture...

"some who are here will see the kingdom of god before tasting death"

Because the experience happens to them...
 
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Some will say the kingdom is under a rock or in a tree but it is within
 
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oyster67 said:
Things have been going in the wrong direction ever since, and will continue doing so until the Rapture.
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They will continue until we understand the message

Right now the right is fighting for selfishness and making the Bible look evil

The left is more with God right now

It is always gradually happening though, it must...

The internet is helping it along a charm
 
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TMS said:
does the new covenant have no law?
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Abraham is before Moses, he could not be under the law

Indeed, he is initiated into the order of El by Melchizedek...

King of Righteousness
 
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In Hebrews 5 we are told Jesus is the eternal priest of this order
 
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H3n0515 said:
I have provided the verses:

Galatians 4:21-31
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i read the verses and it isn't about "wanting the law" it is about the bondage and freedom, it is about promise and doing by the flesh, it is about Jerusalem above and Jerusalem on earth, it about two covenants.

The two sons are what we can be. A child of promise that is saved by faith, or a child that tries to be saved by self effort when it is impossible.

Loving Gods law does not make us a child of bondage. trying to obey the law by our own effort does.
 
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H3n0515 said:
Abraham is before Moses, he could not be under the law

Indeed, he is initiated into the order of El by Melchizedek...

King of Righteousness
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Abraham made a covenant with God and could disobey God so laws did exist that Abraham obeyed.
 
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i read the verses and it isn't about "wanting the law" it is about the bondage and freedom, it is about promise and doing by the flesh, it is about Jerusalem above and Jerusalem on earth, it about two covenants.

The two sons are what we can be. A child of promise that is saved by faith, or a child that tries to be saved by self effort when it is impossible.

Loving Gods law does not make us a child of bondage. trying to obey the law by our own effort does.
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Sarah means promise... it is the one Yahweh made with Abraham...

Still, Ishmael is to have a nation... Islam is the Ummah of Hagar... Muhammad is like unto Moses because they are under the Law
 
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TMS said:
Abraham made a covenant with God and could disobey God so laws did exist that Abraham obeyed.
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He simply obeyed... he did not need to be told

John 14:10
 
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Those who venerate the Law will always fight over the physical Jerusalem...

There will never be peace.
 
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For me, I see the entire Bible through Galatians...

It is the first text of Christianity.
 
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Laws must have been in place from the start, God commanded Adam and eve not to eat to the tree.
Gods laws are what define right and wrong.

Being under a law = being held guilty to the law,
Eg. If the law says do not kill or you will be a sinner guilty of eternal death.

If i am held under the law as guilty (as a sinner), but Grace and mercy comes by Jesus, by promise and i have faith in Jesus to free me from the Guilt of the sin, I and made free, (Justified), no longer under the law.

The law is not gone, the definition of sin is still there pointing out sin, but we have an advocate promised to us in the blood of Jesus to free us from the law.

If God changed the laws and took the laws away then why did He need to Send Jesus to die for us?
 
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