Summary of Bible references on the Rapture

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This will have an impact on the supply of food this year. They are calling it "one of the most destructive measures possible"
 

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Proverbs 20:6-13 Differing weights and differing measures, the Lord detests them both.

6 Many claim to have unfailing love, but a faithful person who can find?

A lot of people were disheartened by the recent events in the US. But they are missing this key point. At the end of the age the Lord is looking to see if He can find faith. These people like Sydney Powell and Rudolp Giuliani who are being slandered and sued yet are still pursuing the truth, those are faithful people.

7 The righteous lead blameless lives; blessed are their children after them.

You can’t look at your life simply by what you have been able to amass. If like organized crime you have left a legacy to your children which is a curse you have to consider that. Bernie Madoff was very rich, his kids grew up privileged right until they discovered he was a crook. It was so crushing for his kids to go from privileged elite to despised by one and all that one even committed suicide.

8 When a king sits on his throne to judge, he winnows out all evil with his eyes.

Let’s flip this around, the ones who are winnowing out evil with their eyes are kings. Pelosi, the squad and their ilk did not winnow any evil. They are not kings, they are usurpers. These people doing the investigation whether journalists or lawyers or citizens, they are kings. They have a position, a seat, and they sit on that throne and rule.

9 Who can say, “I have kept my heart pure; I am clean and without sin”?

You had better be covered with the blood of Jesus. This is not trivial, if you want to be covered with the Lord’s blood you have to obey the Lord and that includes confessing sins and repenting.

10 Differing weights and differing measures— the Lord detests them both.

The impeachment of Trump is a great example. They want to try Trump for “inciting the riot” because he called for a peaceful protest when in fact you can get quotes from Pelosi, Schumer and Maxine Waters that clearly incite rioting. They impeached Trump for “colluding with Russia” and found that he didn’t yet they ignore the fact that Biden clearly colluded with the Ukraine. Be assured, the Lord detests this.

11 Even small children are known by their actions, so is their conduct really pure and upright?

Again, this is a key principle in forensics, every contact leaves a trace. “Out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks”. We can see into your heart by the words you speak. Actions speak louder than words. We can also know your heart by your actions.

12 Ears that hear and eyes that see— the Lord has made them both.

We have the power of observation. You can see a lot if you look.

13 Do not love sleep or you will grow poor; stay awake and you will have food to spare.

This is the warning with the Stop the Steal rallies. Wake up or you will grow poor.
 

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Proverbs 20:14-17 Lord fill their mouth with gravel

14 “It’s no good, it’s no good!” says the buyer— then goes off and boasts about the purchase.

I love to do return on investment analysis. I recently bought a bicycle and the cost was $3600 when you added in all the accessories. The people checking me out were worried, but I was quite happy. Why? I had done the Return on Investment analysis and calculated that riding this bicycle instead of driving my car to work would give me a 48% return on investment at the least, and perhaps many times greater than that at the most (if it allowed me to work an extra year). I used to work as a stock broker and it is very difficult if not impossible to find any investment that gives you a 48% return on investment. But, wouldn’t a cheaper bicycle do even better? It has been my experience that at 6:30 am I need motivation to drive off to work on my bicycle, remembering that I paid so much is one motivation, the other is having a really good bicycle that is a pleasure to ride. If you buy a cheap bicycle that you hate and never ride you don’t get any return on your investment.

15 Gold there is, and rubies in abundance, but lips that speak knowledge are a rare jewel.

I shared my spreadsheet with the bike shop. I told them they should use this to sell better bikes and more expensive bikes. Why? I don’t want them to go out of business.

16 Take the garment of one who puts up security for a stranger; hold it in pledge if it is done for an outsider.

What is going on with our border? What is going on with NY which is going to give $15,000 to illegal aliens who lost their jobs during the pandemic. I suspect this is a hoax, how does an illegal alien provide proof of a lost job and a loss of $15,000 if they are undocumented? My guess is NY is trying to get all the illegal aliens coming across the border to come to NY. Why? Because all the residents are fleeing to states like Florida.

17 Food gained by fraud tastes sweet, but one ends up with a mouth full of gravel.

Let’s hope so. Biden, Pelosi and Schumer are all rejoicing and feasting writing trillion dollar bills. They are clearly acting like the food gained by fraud is sweet, but let’s pray that the Lord honors His word that in the end their mouth is full of gravel.
 

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Mark 4 Seeing but never perceiving

1 Again Jesus began to teach by the lake. The crowd that gathered around him was so large that he got into a boat and sat in it out on the lake, while all the people were along the shore at the water’s edge. 2 He taught them many things by parables, and in his teaching said: 3 “Listen! A farmer went out to sow his seed. 4 As he was scattering the seed, some fell along the path, and the birds came and ate it up. 5 Some fell on rocky places, where it did not have much soil. It sprang up quickly, because the soil was shallow. 6 But when the sun came up, the plants were scorched, and they withered because they had no root. 7 Other seed fell among thorns, which grew up and choked the plants, so that they did not bear grain. 8 Still other seed fell on good soil. It came up, grew and produced a crop, some multiplying thirty, some sixty, some a hundred times.”

Do not get discouraged if some of the seeds get eaten by the birds. However, I have to wonder about this farmer, maybe if he helped pull a few weeds some of these seeds would have done better. I can understand that some of these rocky places don’t have much soil, not the best place to grow, but couldn’t the farmer bring some mulch, use a little irrigation? My point is that as Christians we have seen all of this, we see the censors and other attempts to snatch the seed from you, but I feel that is on you. If you know that they lied to you about the Hunter Biden laptop why are you still listening to them? If you know that NY Times lied about having a top level cabinet official as a “deep throat” why do you still listen to them? Adam Schiff lied during the first impeachment, why do you still listen to him? Fauci lied, why do you still listen to him? At some point you need to take responsibility for whether or not these seeds grew in you.

9 Then Jesus said, “Whoever has ears to hear, let them hear.” 10 When he was alone, the Twelve and the others around him asked him about the parables. 11 He told them, “The secret of the kingdom of God has been given to you. But to those on the outside everything is said in parables 12 so that,

“‘they may be ever seeing but never perceiving,

and ever hearing but never understanding;

otherwise they might turn and be forgiven!’”


This seems unfair. How is this righteous judgement? Well, suppose a person does do their research, but not to perceive but rather so that they could not perceive. All of their arguments and questions are not so they could see, hear, or understand but rather so that they could not understand. I have seen this many times. For example a person recently asked me why I wasn’t vaccinated. That could be an honest question, maybe they are questioning whether they should get the vaccine. So I told them. They responded with all kinds of nonsense. But again, my thought was they are probably just regurgitating what they have been told, they could still be legitimately seeking the truth. So I gave them a list of ten logical questions I had concerning the virus and the vaccine that I wanted answered first. They responded in an ugly, accusatory way that I was trying to avoid their questions. I pointed out that I have been open with them, answered their questions so far but they are the one who has blown off my ten questions. They responded, “sorry, I didn’t see them”. It was an email with a big bold underlined headline that said “Ten logical and reasonable questions” followed by the ten questions listed 1-10. To say they didn’t see it meant they don’t read my responses. That is when it became very clear there was nothing legitimate about their questions. The Lord doesn’t get Himself tangled up in all this mess, rather he gives them a parable and they will be more than happy to use that to make sure they never perceive and never understand. We know why this is, it is because their heart is far from the Lord. We know that God desires all men to be saved and come to the full knowledge of the truth but some people come to the Lord and that is not their intention at all.

13 Then Jesus said to them, “Don’t you understand this parable? How then will you understand any parable? 14 The farmer sows the word. 15 Some people are like seed along the path, where the word is sown. As soon as they hear it, Satan comes and takes away the word that was sown in them. 16 Others, like seed sown on rocky places, hear the word and at once receive it with joy. 17 But since they have no root, they last only a short time. When trouble or persecution comes because of the word, they quickly fall away. 18 Still others, like seed sown among thorns, hear the word; 19 but the worries of this life, the deceitfulness of wealth and the desires for other things come in and choke the word, making it unfruitful. 20 Others, like seed sown on good soil, hear the word, accept it, and produce a crop—some thirty, some sixty, some a hundred times what was sown.”

There are people who are like those along a path. They are like people who sit and watch mainstream television and are not interested in getting any word in too deeply, just skate along the surface. Some are like rocky places, we call them manic depressants, they get all excited about something one day and the next they are all withered up. Others are like those who live in the thorns, we call them ADHD, they have so many things going on they can’t stay focused for more than a few minutes. There are a lot of distractions, we need to learn to turn them off and get into the word. Yes, you can hear testimonies and messages on the internet and yes it can be very helpful. But at some point every day you need to get into the word yourself, no distractions. When I was a new Christian I would listen to messages from people I trusted, every week the same amount of time, I would also read one spiritual book at a time until I finished it. But the majority of my time was spent reading the Bible. I read the Bible cover to cover in a few months, by the time I had been in the church for 8 years I was asked to calculate how many times. I calculated that I had read the Bible cover to cover 25 times while I had read the books in the bible that we had gone over in trainings (about 20 books at that time) at least 100 times. I get it that not everyone will do that, but to not have read through the Bible at least 8 times in 8 years, that does not make sense to me.
 

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Mark 4:21-34 Do your job

A Lamp on a Stand

The previous parable was “the parable of the sower”. If you are the sower your job is to sow seeds, you don’t need to worry about birds or thorns or rocks. If I were the farmer, if that is my land, my heart, then I should be focused on dealing with the rocks, dealing with the thorns and trying to build up a deep and rich soil for a heart. But now we are talking about a lamp. If you are lamp on a stand your job is to shine the light.

21 He said to them, “Do you bring in a lamp to put it under a bowl or a bed? Instead, don’t you put it on its stand? 22 For whatever is hidden is meant to be disclosed, and whatever is concealed is meant to be brought out into the open. 23 If anyone has ears to hear, let them hear.”


We have a purpose, we have a function, you need to do it. Right now we are watching Attorney Generals coming down hard on Covid19 violations while ignoring looting, rioting, rape and even murder. They release these criminals back on the streets to commit even more heinous and vicious crimes. Your job is to keep people safe, not enforce the totalitarian state. Do your job. We see the FBI holding onto Hunter Biden’s laptop for a year even though the evidence of criminal behavior that by law must be reported within 24 hours was all over the laptop. Do your job. To put the light under a bowl or a bed indicates that they are being bribed, nice paycheck, nice house, nice benefits, whatever it is they will be judged for it.

24 “Consider carefully what you hear,” he continued. “With the measure you use, it will be measured to you—and even more. 25 Whoever has will be given more; whoever does not have, even what they have will be taken from them.”

Wow, we don’t generally realize this. Many people will do whatever they are told to advance their career. Rather than shine the light they’ll cover it up because of the bowl or the bed, the paycheck or benefits. But here we learn that with what measure you measure it will be measured to you. Cuomo dished it out to Kavanaugh saying we need to pay attention when women file a complaint, well ten or eleven women filed a complaint against him and now the AG has determined the complaints are credible and there is sufficient evidence to try him. We have an expression “what goes around comes around”. The day of judgement will come when your corruption will be revealed and then you will have to pay for it just as you did to others.

The Parable of the Growing Seed

26 He also said, “This is what the kingdom of God is like. A man scatters seed on the ground. 27 Night and day, whether he sleeps or gets up, the seed sprouts and grows, though he does not know how. 28 All by itself the soil produces grain—first the stalk, then the head, then the full kernel in the head. 29 As soon as the grain is ripe, he puts the sickle to it, because the harvest has come.”

This is cool. You have no idea who is listening or what word that you sowed is growing in someone’s heart. Often you discover a year or a few years later that those words made an impact. The word of God is powerful, trust it to do its work.

The Parable of the Mustard Seed

30 Again he said, “What shall we say the kingdom of God is like, or what parable shall we use to describe it? 31 It is like a mustard seed, which is the smallest of all seeds on earth. 32 Yet when planted, it grows and becomes the largest of all garden plants, with such big branches that the birds can perch in its shade.”

This is really ridiculous. Mustard is an herb and is often put in a garden to repel other pests. The idea that the “mustard” plant would become a tree for birds to roost in is as ridiculous as a bunch of crows sitting on a scarecrow. But this is what our government has become. They are supposed to expose and root out corruption, instead they have become a roost for every foul bird. These are the same birds that are stealing the word of God from people in the parable of the sower.

33 With many similar parables Jesus spoke the word to them, as much as they could understand. 34 He did not say anything to them without using a parable. But when he was alone with his own disciples, he explained everything.
 

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Mark 4:35-41 Jesus Calms the Storm

35 That day when evening came, he said to his disciples, “Let us go over to the other side.” 36 Leaving the crowd behind, they took him along, just as he was, in the boat. There were also other boats with him. 37 A furious squall came up, and the waves broke over the boat, so that it was nearly swamped. 38 Jesus was in the stern, sleeping on a cushion. The disciples woke him and said to him, “Teacher, don’t you care if we drown?”

39 He got up, rebuked the wind and said to the waves, “Quiet! Be still!” Then the wind died down and it was completely calm.

40 He said to his disciples, “Why are you so afraid? Do you still have no faith?”

41 They were terrified and asked each other, “Who is this? Even the wind and the waves obey him!”

Right now it seems we have a furious squall that has broken out. There is a significant portion of this country that would suggest vaccine mandates and imprisoning people who refused to get vaccinated. On the other hand there is another group, just as significant, that believes the vaccine is the mark of the beast or that it is more dangerous than Covid19. Likewise with the battle over the US border, or the battle over how to combat the rise in crime in the cities versus the defund the police movement. There is another squall over election fraud on Nov 3 versus the insurrection of January 6th. Then there is another squall over teaching CRT in the classroom and race baiting. Some people believe this is critical to teach that racism is systematic in this country, others believe that this teaching is reverse racism. What is interesting is how much all these battles seem to split the country in half. Visualize for a moment the super rich in their mega yachts, private planes and gated communities. People that are paying $200,000 a year for their private security while screaming that we need to defund the police for everyone else. These are people who know that they are the source of the problem, they are outnumbered 99 to 1, but if they can just get the 99 to fight with each other 45 versus 44, then we will be too distracted to see who the real problem is.


Ask yourself, we have seen the evidence presented of major crimes by governors, presidents, rioters, looters, and many others and yet for some reason no one arrests them. For four years we can be calling to “lock her up” or “drain the swamp” or whatever and yet nothing happens.


State legislators ask for the routers or the codes to open up and investigate their voting machines and they are ignored.


Here we get a picture of what is going on, the wind, the waves, these are controlled by demons. The race baiting, the fraud, the lies, the deceits, all the crimes that make everyone crazy and stir up a furious squall, these are demons, evil people with an evil agenda. We are being played and if we would grow up this whole squall would cease. Being against pollution doesn’t mean I have to be for AOC to get $10 trillion to “solve” this problem. Being against bias doesn’t mean I have to be for teaching elementary school kids to be “anti racist racists”. Being against crooked cops doesn’t mean I have to be for making the inner city unsafe. The real issue that we should all get behind is something called the Jubilee. The idea is that the US started out as a place that was “a land of opportunity” where those who worked hard could succeed. But year by year some people became more wealthy to the point they could use their wealth to tip the scales of justice. This is the real elephant in the room. A billionaire that gets caught committing a crime will not be treated the same by the justice system as a poor person. As you get trampled by this elephant you may think that the issue is pollution. You saw your community destroyed by some multi national corporation. Or you may think the issue is corrupt cops who framed your dad for a crime to cover for someone with power. Or you might think that the people teaching you about this “systematic racism” are your friend, not realizing that the most racist systematically racist thing in this country is the public school. The elephant in the room is the 1% who feel much safer when 45% are fighting the 44% and who want to make sure we are too stupid to realize what they are doing.