PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE GET THE COVID SHOT.

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Statistics........ The vaccination is not 100% effective and no one has claimed that it is. If 100% of the population is vaccinated and one person gets infected then of course 100% of the victims were vaccinated. The situation in Australia is that a few vaccinated people have been infected, but the symptoms are much less severe than for unvaccinated people. Some vaccines may require a third booster shot.

What is patently clear is that vaccination is one way of dealing with COVID. The other is to let it run its course, kill or maim everyone who is susceptible, and get on with life. Which oddly enough is what the anti vaxxers claim is the point of the vaccine.

We live in an age where information is available to a degree never before known in history. The difficulty is discerning what is true and what is false. There is no secret vaccination agenda. Vaccination is a tried and tested help to protect against disease since 1798. It's not perfect as humans are involved. But it's the best that can be done.
You say = There is no secret vaccination agenda. Vaccination is a tried and tested help to protect against disease since 1798. It's not perfect as humans are involved. But it's the best that can be done.

And God says = Blessed are those who wash their robes, so that they may have the right to the tree of life and may enter the city by its gates. But outside are the dogs, the sorcerers, the sexually immoral, the murderers, the idolaters, and everyone who loves and practices falsehood.
 

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Medical insanity, as described by an MD
By Matt Bettag, MD

When did the world become insane? What is the reason for it? Big Brother? Depopulation? Or people in love with control? I don't know and it's driving me nuts. But I've decided I'm tired of complaining about it to my friends and family and I'm willing to put my name on the line. If the woke culture wants to ruin me for speaking the truth, I guess I might as well just get it over with now.

I have been a physician for 24 years, a practicing ENT for 19 years. I have never before seen the medical establishment just stop thinking. Insanity is the new rule, and common sense cannot even be discussed.
From the beginning, 15 days to flatten the curve, I was shocked. We had never done this before, but perhaps this virus was really bad, so I gave the government the benefit of the doubt.
Then came Fauci. He initially said social distancing didn't work, and masks were largely ineffective. But by late March, he pronounced both masking and social distancing necessary. Weird...red flag. But what really hit me was that he went on to say people should use Tinder and Grindr at their own discretion. What? How do you socially distance that? So now I am alarmed.
started researching the utility of masks. There were very good articles I found — one out of a respiratory center in Chicago, and another a good dental review.

I bookmarked both of them. Less than a month later, the dental website was down, replaced by a text saying basically that their information is now irrelevant because of COVID. The Chicago article also had a disclaimer that previously wasn't there saying people shouldn't use their article politically. What? Don't use a scientifically-derived article to make a scientifically based decision on the utility of masks? What the hell is going on?

Next comes PCR. Let's conveniently jack up the cycles to 40+, resulting in a 90–97% false-positive rate, then let's start testing all elective surgery, asymptomatic exposures, and hospitalized patients. In addition, we will reimburse hospitals greatly for COVID admissions and ICU visits. Oxygen doesn't work; go home until you get worse. Oh, and bring your family and friends with you; they'll need testing.

Steroids were advised against early on, which makes no sense because they do decrease inflammation and in ENT have been used widely for viral illness. Next, we find a few weeks later the secret drug to treat COVID: steroids. What?

HCQ, not safe. Has been used for decades worldwide with a great safety profile, but not anymore, because orange man bad. Mention it, and you are a lunatic. The same went for any other proven therapeutic, such as ivermectin and vitamin D.

Vaccines? I wouldn't trust anything the president made. That was Kamala Harris back in the fall. Now if you don't get vaccinated, you don't care about other people, and you wanna watch people die. Oh, and by the way, we should vaccinate everyone, including those who previously had COVID, pregnant women, and small children.

What about VAERS? That's the open record report system that the CDC has made almost unnavigable. It's slowly crept up and showed up to 12,000 deaths coincident with the vaccine. Then dropped to 6,000, only to come back up to 10,000 and now back to 12,000. Just a little glitch from our trustworthy government. There are reports that the numbers could be ten times or more as high, and perhaps the CDC is misclassifying deaths to hide them. But let's trust the government; they've been so good thus far.

Now the latest, the delta variant, is surging because of the unvaccinated. Ignore the data from other countries that have very high vaccine rates but high spiking cases, and ignore the data from other countries that have low vaccine rates and almost no COVID. As a matter of fact, let's not even look at Sweden, which essentially didn't do lockdowns or masking, has a low vaccination rate, and has almost zero COVID.

I have never lived in a world like this, where open medical dialogue is completely suppressed and there is only one party line. I thought the left was always talking about how we shouldn't bully people, and we need to have "dialogue." Well...let's start. The media and the government need to do their job and start opening dialogue to the other side. If we are crazy, it will come out. If we are right, and the data show that to be the fact, then a large apology is warranted.
 

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Aaahhhmmm......that was my opinion of forced vaccinations. You know...the ones you don't want but are forced upon you against your will.....like being raped?
Thanks for calling vax-rape what it is - rape. Non-consensual penetration by government stooges (or anybody) is rape. I find it highly offensive that Christians can be opposed to one form of rape, but disregard vax-rape as somehow permissible if mandated by a government, scientists or other entities worshipped by the world. Rape is rape, irrespective of who the rapist is and whether he claims that he legalised it or not.
 

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It probably look as if I'm on everyone's side because I seem to defend one then I don't and back and forth(I apologize) I don't agree that people should be forced into vaccines,that's just wrong. Eventually though it will occur to everyone to search for the other drugs used to treat this and it wont be any better like "Remdesivir stem cell research",,,,"ivermectin fetal stem cell research",,,foods or products that used stem cells ect. That's the really offensive part to me to realize that without our knowledge they have done this to all of us for years.
Unfortunately for the moderates, moderate views are detested by frothing-at-the-mouth rabid dogs who wish to silence people with differing views than theirs, and redefine terms to suit their wokety wokeness... Aborted fetal cells were also used in the testing of various food products. I wonder how many people consume them? Nestles coffee creamers. Nestles instant soups. Nestles bouillon cubes. Flavor seasonings. Nestles ketchups. Nestles sauces. Nestles seasoning. Nestles instant noodles. Aborted fetal cells are also in anti-aging skin creams, as well as some other cosmetics. Here is a USA & Canada - Aborted Fetal Cell Line Products and Ethical Alternatives' list from August of 2015. Chances are most people from these countries have already been injected, one way or another, with fetal stem cell tissue.
 
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I'm not sure I believe this as I'm not sure I believe when others say most of the severe patients are the unvaccinated. The only thing I'll come close to believing is people I know, friends who work in the hospitals who tell me what they know. I haven't been asking this question of them but will be when I see them.
Our friend Billyd likes to use personal anecdotes. He is in Florida.

My sister is also in Florida. She wrote this today on Fascistbook:

“Have a friend who is a nurse and she said almost all the covid patients are fully vaccinated.”
 

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This may very well happen. While the Marxist globalist World anthem song “Imagine” plays in the background:

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Meanwhile, because balanced reporting is considered important by some, in other parts of the world:

A surge in covid-19 cases in British Columbia is fuelled by those between the ages of 20 and 40
who are unvaccinated or have only had one dose, Provincial Health Officer Dr. Bonnie Henry says.

The latest case count reached 402 on Thursday, a figure not seen since May, but Dr. Henry said clusters of infections were expected.

Extensive contact tracing has identified clusters of people who have been in contact with each other, she said.

“We’ve taken additional measures in those local areas where we are starting to see that high increase,” she said during a news conference on Thursday.

But health officials aren’t seeing widespread transmission to at-risk groups such as seniors because they have a high rate of immunization, Dr. Henry said.

She said 95 per cent of those who are infected either haven’t been vaccinated or have only had one shot.

“That is important for us to recognize right now. That’s the message that we have for you today is that you are at risk and you spread it to the people who are closest to you.”

Dr. Henry said everyone hospitalized with the illness in intensive care units in the Interior are people who haven’t yet been vaccinated.


Health Minister Adrian Dix said people aren’t obliged to get vaccinated.

“But there are consequences if you don’t and I think everyone will have to understand that,” he said.
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This may very well happen. While the Marxist globalist World anthem song “Imagine” plays in the background:

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20 years ago i was warning all christians that this was coming - their reply was: 'No need to worry about it because we won't be here(pre-trib rapture).'
Matthew chapter 24:3-4 "Take heed that no one deceive you..."

Just last Sunday a pastor on christian radio said: "Matthew 24:3-4 does not apply to us - we won't be here for the deception."

Christians are being deceived because they reject the CLEAR teaching from Jesus and the Apostles on this subject.
 

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20 years ago i was warning all christians that this was coming - their reply was: 'No need to worry about it because we won't be here(pre-trib rapture).'
Matthew chapter 24:3-4 "Take heed that no one deceive you..."

Just last Sunday a pastor on christian radio said: "Matthew 24:3-4 does not apply to us - we won't be here for the deception."

Christians are being deceived because they reject the CLEAR teaching from Jesus and the Apostles on this subject.
Some Christians are sill thinking (and hoping and wishing and praying) that the end is soon.

They have been thinking that for the last 2k years! :oops:
 
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Some Christians are sill thinking (and hoping and wishing and praying) that the end is soon.

They have been thinking that for the last 2k years!:oops:
Yes, and that is not a bad thing unless it becomes an idol (knowledge) unto them and they write books(money, fame) that lead people astray from trusting only on the Word.

"For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear." 2 Timothy 4:3
 
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