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PennEd

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Oh I thought Obama couldn't get in again. It will be interesting to see who she picks. I am sure it has already been determined.
I may be wrong, but I think he can be VP. You are right that he can’t be President again.

But in this lawless time in which we live they can just break any law they like.
 

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Do you think that everyone your speaking with is an dispensationist? Just curious because you use the same argument with everyone. I would examine Revelation a little closer because there's defiantly an head of the beast that received a deadly wound that the Lord said people would say "let us make an image of..." and set up in the world in the future. Now if it blasphemes Gods name and tabernacle then do they not call it after Gods name? And then if it blasphemes the tabernacle God dwells in do they tell people that we are not the temple of the Holy Ghost and instead the one they made is? You see it's not that it doesn't mention them doing it,it's that they do it against his will. They say "let us make..." you see and he is telling you their going to do it.
Are we not being reviled and hated even now in the in the world. The hatred towards the God of the Bible and His Son and those who are His is rampant and flooding the world.

Then from the mouth of the dragon spewed water like a river to overtake the woman and sweep her away in the torrent.
 

iamsoandso

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And this pertains to the Mark - the Mark connects to the image and worship is fulfilled by accepting the Mark and the unforgivable sin is committed, just as you stated "it blashemes Gods Name (Jesus) and the Tabernacle (us who have God's Name in our foreheads and hearts).

Yes multitudes of times in Scripture God says that he called them by the name of the Lord. There are multiple Scriptures but https://bible.knowing-jesus.com/Deuteronomy/28/10 https://bible.knowing-jesus.com/Isaiah/43/7 show what I'm saying(look at the others also). So there is an Israel that is "called after Gods own name" and there is another one that is named the same name that isn't. They use(blaspheme), Gods name because they know many will all flock to it with their support without thinking it through if they say they are it.
 

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Are we not being reviled and hated even now in the in the world. The hatred towards the God of the Bible and His Son and those who are His is rampant and flooding the world.

Then from the mouth of the dragon spewed water like a river to overtake the woman and sweep her away in the torrent.
back later today...
 

ZNP

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I may be wrong, but I think he can be VP. You are right that he can’t be President again.

But in this lawless time in which we live they can just break any law they like.
I think when they nominated Obama to be the Democratic candidate in that facsimile of the altar of Zeus he was introduced as "the future president of the US and future president of the world".

Apollo was the son of Zeus and angelic counterfeit of Jesus.
 

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It just occurred to me, the prophecy that the Lord's return would be as the days of Noah, wouldn't the days of Noah include the days in which the DNA of angels and humans were mixed to create the Nephilim?
 
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Why don’t you spout your ignorance to this woman and her family?

Toxic epidermal necrolysis: 49-year-old New York woman develops life-threatening skin-rotting disorder one week after Pfizer mRNA injection

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https://thecovidblog.com/2021/08/23...isorder-one-week-after-pfizer-mrna-injection/

I truly wish I had the time to fact check all your misinformation, most of it is very skewed, this is my only time and for the benefit of the larger audience so they do not fall for this fake news.

I cannot understand why it escapes so many of you to be objective and post all the information and go to the source rather than use web sites with obvious agendas.

Did Jesus not state He is The Way The Truth and The Life and yet is seems okay for Christians to carelessly present misinformation and partial facts.

Do your research.

Abstract
Stevens-Johnson syndrome/toxic epidermal necrolysis (SJS/TEN) is a spectrum of acute, delayed-type hypersensitivity reactions that affect the skin and the mucous membranes. Medications are the culprit cause of these disorders in addition to infections and in very rare instances vaccinations. We report a case of TEN in a 49-year-old woman with no previous medical history. The disorder developed one week after receiving the first dose of COVID-19 vaccine with no other identifiable causes. The patient received two doses of tumor necrosis factor-alpha inhibitor (etanercept) and she stopped developing new lesions after two days of the initial dose; complete healing was observed after 22 days and no side effects were observed in our patient. This case demonstrates an extremely rare complication to the COVID-19 vaccine. The benefits of receiving the COVID-19 outweigh the potential risk.

Conclusions
This instance highlights an extremely rare vaccine consequence. But the benefits greatly outweigh the risks in the present circumstances, therefore there should be no hesitation among the community to seek vaccination. Therefore, as we report this case, we emphasize the rarity of the occurrence of this side effect, and given the circumstances, this should not influence the decision of taking the vaccine, nor add to the misconceptions out there. In our case, we explained the pathophysiology behind the development of toxic epidermal necrolysis secondary to vaccination and we highlighted the successfulness of eternacept as a safe and fast treatment of this condition.


https://www.cureus.com/articles/680...st-covid-19-vaccination---first-reported-case


This is a shameful time for Christians and I am sure that is how we will be remembered by some, this will hamper the teaching of the Gospel and our credibility greatly for many generations to come.
 

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This is a shameful time for Christians and I am sure that is how we will be remembered by some, this will hamper the teaching of the Gospel and our credibility greatly for many generations to come.
I think we all agree with this regardless of how we view the vaccine. During the tribulation those of us who are left behind will have had our credibility damaged greatly.
 

Lucy-Pevensie

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It just occurred to me, the prophecy that the Lord's return would be as the days of Noah, wouldn't the days of Noah include the days in which the DNA of angels and humans were mixed to create the Nephilim?
I don't think we should get get carried away with this.
The Lord specified his meaning. There will be many unprepared people living life in a more-or less normal way.

Mathew 24:38 For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark;

Many people will be going about their lives unconcerned by the idea of coming judgement.

"As in the days of Noah" doesn't require us to insert a Sci-fi scenario into the text.
Such as "just as in the days of Noah, hybrid giants will walk the earth"
Or to assume every single thing that happened in the days before the flood will happen just before Jesus returns.

Jesus said what he meant- people will be eating, drinking, having weddings and the like with no concern about the wrath
of God. This is happening now. Unrepentant people getting on with life.
 

ZNP

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I don't think we should get get carried away with this.
The Lord specified his meaning. There will be many unprepared people living life in a more-or less normal way.


Mathew 24:38 For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark;

Many people will be going about their lives unconcerned by the idea of coming judgement.

"As in the days of Noah" doesn't require us to insert a Sci-fi scenario into the text.
Such as "just as in the days of Noah, hybrid giants will walk the earth"
Or to assume every single thing that happened in the days before the flood will happen just before Jesus returns.


Jesus said what he meant- people will be eating, drinking, having weddings and the like with no concern about the wrath
of God. This is happening now. Unrepentant people getting on with life.
It is easy to not get carried away with this if you are safely in the ark.
 
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I truly wish I had the time to fact check all your misinformation, most of it is very skewed, this is my only time and for the benefit of the larger audience so they do not fall for this fake news.

I cannot understand why it escapes so many of you to be objective and post all the information and go to the source rather than use web sites with obvious agendas.

Did Jesus not state He is The Way The Truth and The Life and yet is seems okay for Christians to carelessly present misinformation and partial facts.

Do your research.

Abstract
Stevens-Johnson syndrome/toxic epidermal necrolysis (SJS/TEN) is a spectrum of acute, delayed-type hypersensitivity reactions that affect the skin and the mucous membranes. Medications are the culprit cause of these disorders in addition to infections and in very rare instances vaccinations. We report a case of TEN in a 49-year-old woman with no previous medical history. The disorder developed one week after receiving the first dose of COVID-19 vaccine with no other identifiable causes. The patient received two doses of tumor necrosis factor-alpha inhibitor (etanercept) and she stopped developing new lesions after two days of the initial dose; complete healing was observed after 22 days and no side effects were observed in our patient. This case demonstrates an extremely rare complication to the COVID-19 vaccine. The benefits of receiving the COVID-19 outweigh the potential risk.

Conclusions
This instance highlights an extremely rare vaccine consequence. But the benefits greatly outweigh the risks in the present circumstances, therefore there should be no hesitation among the community to seek vaccination. Therefore, as we report this case, we emphasize the rarity of the occurrence of this side effect, and given the circumstances, this should not influence the decision of taking the vaccine, nor add to the misconceptions out there. In our case, we explained the pathophysiology behind the development of toxic epidermal necrolysis secondary to vaccination and we highlighted the successfulness of eternacept as a safe and fast treatment of this condition.


https://www.cureus.com/articles/680...st-covid-19-vaccination---first-reported-case


This is a shameful time for Christians and I am sure that is how we will be remembered by some, this will hamper the teaching of the Gospel and our credibility greatly for many generations to come.
You disagree with your own source, hilarious!!

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I may be wrong, but I think he can be VP. You are right that he can’t be President again.

But in this lawless time in which we live they can just break any law they like.
IMHO - Obama may become President of the UN. The push, right now is for the US Constitution to be suspended and submitted unto UN Authority. With Obama as President of the UN, he thus becomes President of the US by having a puppet President in office doing the will of Obama.
We are half way there already.
 

Smoke

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Just garbage. Why would they bother? They've been able to track you via your phone years. Ditch your phone, the internet (you are being tracked right now), shut down Alexa and go find a cave to live in. Oh, and I got my first jab last week. I'm fine.

If "they", whoever "they" are, wanted or were able to make you transhuman, it would not be via a vaccination that you can avoid. I'd stop drinking water if I was you. "They" will put something into the water treatment system to turn you into a zombie. Or worse, a flat earther.

I was in hospital about this time last year. I could see the kind of pressure the staff were under for myself. Conspiracy theorists insult the people who risk illness and even their lives to help people who are suffering.
Very well stated. It seems like a waste of time to use a vaccine to kill us off when they can just contaminate our water supply.

It's how people hate the owner of Facebook, but spread misinformation on that platform day in and day out. They hate Google, but live on Facebook on their android phone. They think the government wants to track them, but don't even acknowledge the government can/does already track them via their phone. It would be hilarious if it wasn't true.
 

Smoke

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Whether Trump is part of the cabal of evil people promoting the plandemic, or just caught up in his ego and thinks it makes him look good to promote the gene therapy, is irrelevant.
I don't see how it's irrelevant if Trump knows this vaccine will kill/harm people and wants to promote a one world government with a massive decrease in human population all the while, injecting the mark of the beast. You say it's irrelevant because "he did an awesome job" as president. That's absolute madness... as if the good things he did (which I acknowledge) outweighs his desire for human genocide... apparently it's irrelevant... Absolutely absurd that you think it's irrelevant.
 
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I don't think we should get get carried away with this.
The Lord specified his meaning. There will be many unprepared people living life in a more-or less normal way.


Mathew 24:38 For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark;

Many people will be going about their lives unconcerned by the idea of coming judgement.

"As in the days of Noah" doesn't require us to insert a Sci-fi scenario into the text.
Such as "just as in the days of Noah, hybrid giants will walk the earth"
Or to assume every single thing that happened in the days before the flood will happen just before Jesus returns.


Jesus said what he meant- people will be eating, drinking, having weddings and the like with no concern about the wrath
of God. This is happening now. Unrepentant people getting on with life.
Please do not call the Word of God Sci-fi.
Many christians are completely ignorant and in denial of what took place in Genesis where the Scripture says: the Sons of God took the daughters of men.........

Remember what God did because of this - the Sons of God took the daughters of men for wives - the product of that offspring was so corrupt and defiled that God had to CLEANSE the earth with the Flood.
Noah was perfect in his generation.
Do you think this only speaks of his faith in God alone....no it goes deeper then that - right down to his genetic makeup - he was undefiled from the forbidden mixing.

Although you are fully aware of this, I want to remind you that after the Lord had delivered His people out of the land of Egypt, He destroyed those who did not believe. And the angels who did not stay within their own domain but abandoned their proper dwelling—these He has kept in eternal chains under darkness, bound for judgment on that great day.
In like manner, Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities around them, who indulged in sexual immorality and pursued strange flesh, are on display as an example of those who sustain the punishment of eternal fire. Jude

The Lord Jesus Christ stated the obvious, peace and saftey in the mind of sinners before their destruction, but He did not limit it to that alone but tied it in with all that was takening place in Noah's time = "As in the Days of Noah"
 

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I don't see how it's irrelevant if Trump knows this vaccine will kill/harm people and wants to promote a one world government with a massive decrease in human population all the while, injecting the mark of the beast. You say it's irrelevant because "he did an awesome job" as president. That's absolute madness... as if the good things he did (which I acknowledge) outweighs his desire for human genocide... apparently it's irrelevant... Absolutely absurd that you think it's irrelevant.
I am not political, I am not a cheerleader for Trump or for Biden. The main reason is I don't think either one makes that much of a difference despite being very appreciative of Trump's four years and all that he had to put up with. This is Kabuki theater, they wanted to put a Trump face on the vaccine and they wanted to put a Biden face on this Afghanistan fiasco. Trump didn't make the vaccine, he has no understanding of how these vaccines are made. His expertise is in getting the vaccine fast tracked.

If the vaccine is made with some ulterior motive and if the pandemic was a plandemic designed for this "vaccine" to be the solution, all of that was decided and planned apart from Trump. He was simply a pawn.

Think of Biden, he doesn't even know what he is signing, they simply put a variety of papers in front of him and tell him to sign.

It is essentially the same.

So think about that. Why would you want Biden's face on the fiasco in Afghanistan unless your goal is to kick him out. Why would you steal an election only to then kick out the guy you installed? Why for that matter fund Antifa to riot in the US, or open the US border wide? Everything that is being done is to create chaos. They want chaos, confusion, everyone shouting at everyone, fighting with everyone. If the US is focused on a single mission they will be able to stop any power from taking over the world, you get us fighting one another, make the situation chaotic as it is now, we are incapable of focusing on stopping the real enemy.
 

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I had decided to leave this thread, but I read our area hospitalization report.

The garbage that has been spread about vaccinations is responsible for the hospitalization and deaths in this area. I wonder how many people will get sick and/or die from the gross misinformation that has been spread by people like the antivaxers on this and other sites.

"More than 2,700 people were hospitalized with COVID-19 – more than five times the number hospitalized a month ago. Fifty of those were pediatric patients; nine of those children are on ventilators. Cases among children reached the highest point since the pandemic started and were four times higher in the first 18 days of August than the same time last year."

"Death reports from hospitals were in the double digits each day – 56 deaths on Thursday; 43 the day before; 45 the day before that and on and on. Although, it might be another month before those numbers are confirmed and reflected in official state data."

“What’s most discouraging about these numbers – all these numbers – is that because the severe illness and virtually all the deaths are occurring in unvaccinated people, we feel like this was preventable,” said Dr. Scott Harris, the state’s health officer. “These people did not have to die. These people did not have to be in the hospital. Vaccination would have prevented most of that, and that’s extraordinarily frustrating for us and incredibly sad for the families, for the loved ones of the people that are no longer with us.”

Enough is enough. Go to your prayer closet, get on your knees, and seek God's forgiveness for your complacency in the current surge in sickness, hospitalizations, and deaths that has resulted from lack of vaccination.

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https://dothaneagle.com/news/local/...cle_bb6215f4-01f2-11ec-ad17-53d6e52ae5d5.html

“What’s most discouraging about these numbers – all these numbers – is that because the severe illness and virtually all the deaths are occurring in unvaccinated people, we feel like this was preventable,” said Dr. Scott Harris, the state’s health officer. “These people did not have to die. These people did not have to be in the hospital. Vaccination would have prevented most of that, and that’s extraordinarily frustrating for us and incredibly sad for the families, for the loved ones of the people that are no longer with us.”
Dangerous freedom. If anyone is unvaccinated, it is by choice in this country of the United States. Just as people who ride motorcycles, eats unhealthy, smokes, drink alcohol, lives a lgbt lifestyle that is connected with all sorts of health issues. Time to move on. Healthcare workers need only but to comply to the oath they took. Do their best and move on.
 

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This young man is dead, with his whole life in front of him, because people are ignorant about how dangerous the vaccine is:

Roy Butler: 23-year-old Irish soccer (football) player suffers massive “brain bleed,” dead four days after experimental Johnson & Johnson viral vector DNA injection

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I had a 26 year old family member, perfect health, very athletic, that went to his non denominational Christian church one day and died of a brain aneurysm.

I'm sure atheists would love to use this story about how going to church kills people. "Proof is in the pudding." Denominational Christians can use this as proof that non-denominational churches kill people.

CORRELATION DOES NOT IMPLY CAUSATION
 
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