Vaccination?

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If a Christian gets vaccinated for the covid Is this a lack of faith?

  • Getting the vaccination means the Christian lacks faith.

  • Getting the vaccination demonstrates love thy neighbor.

  • Other,I will explain.


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TMS

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free choice is important, and i know heaps of people that do not want to get the vaccine but will lose their jobs if they don't. Making people get it to earn money and live is force.

We should be free to choose. Gods way or mans way. The wisdom of man has failed many times but God never fails.

Psa 118:8 It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in man.
 
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I feel sorry for those who have an emergency needing to go to the hospital and there Is not a bed for them.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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He already has offered help and it WAS NOT through some rushed concoction that the government and big pharma are trying so desperately to enforce on people.
You cant prove that.

Thats just your OPINION.

I could care less what the government is trying to do. If the vaccine works, it works. And I have seen proof it works.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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just can't let it go, eh?

you obviously did NOT understand the post (from a scientific journal)

look up spike protein...might help you...maybe not...anyway, your personal experience will not be published in the next scientific journal so there's that too
I have read it all. And heard it from all

I have also heard and read it from experts that say this is not true

Like I said. I do not listen to anything I read anymore. We cannot trust anything or anyone. Because we are at the point we are so divided that we will say anything as long as it apposed the other side.

that much is true

from my post:



the spikes were added...part of the wuhan gift to the world...and Fauci's funding for gain of function

please do not give out medical advice
1. I KNOW this was a manufactured virus. The lab in which it was made and the scientist who was there wrote about doing this years ago.
2. Please stop trying to spread fear, My daughter and others I love who are very susceptible to this virus want to get the shot but are afraid because of people like you spreading these conspiracies. People’s lives are at stake. How many will DIE (have died) because they listen to all the nonsense and have been afraid to get the shot that could help them?
 
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eternally-gratefull

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no, I read it, but I guess if were not here to comment on something right away then we're not allowed to do so at all :rolleyes:
And as you say, you were stating how you feel about it, but I guess no one else is able to do the same :confused:


post 332 you said to me:



and in post 380 I asked you to show me where I said such.



You CAN NOT show me such because I NEVER said such..............
so instead you want to divert to other subjects.

just STOP..... in fact, it might be a wise idea for you to not reply back to this post unless you can show me where I said you don't follow God.
Because I won't be replying back to you on this subject (of loving children or not)
The Bible also says to not be deceived with many warnings throughout.
Does Satan exist?
Would he take over the media?
Would he take over the government?
The schools, Hollywood, medicinal companies?
Is that a conspiracy?
I think I will stick with scripture over the CNN and political talking heads trying to force me into acceptance of things that are unholy and against Gods will.
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In affect. You were saying I listen to CNN and political whatever and not God.

Go ahead and deny it. This is what you said.

You do not want to get the shot. DONT.

But dont tell me I got it because I listen to CNN (I am a christian conservative and I stopped listening to news and what fake politicians from BOTH sides have said since last summer. I cant trust ANYTHING i read anymore)
 

John146

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I feel sorry for those who have an emergency needing to go to the hospital and there Is not a bed for them.
And to know they have treatment options outside of a hospital that has proven effective. It’s a crime against humanity. Why? To push a jab. Follow the money, it is the root of all evil.
 

John146

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I have read it all. And heard it from all

I have also heard and read it from experts that say this is not true

Like I said. I do not listen to anything I read anymore. We cannot trust anything or anyone. Because we are at the point we are so divided that we will say anything as long as it apposed the other side.


1. I KNOW this was a manufactured virus. The lab in which it was made and the scientist who was there wrote about doing this years ago.
2. Please stop trying to spread fear, My daughter and others I love who are very susceptible to this virus want to get the shot but are afraid because of people like you spreading these conspiracies. People’s lives are at stake. How many will DIE (have died) because they listen to all the nonsense and have been afraid to get the shot that could help them?
Seriously, if they are afraid, please advise them about the frontline meds. They are saving lives by the millions. There are thousands of doctors who are prescribing them. Frontlinemds.org
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Butter wouldn't melt.
Is this a jab at saying I am pushing a vaccine?

I have not pushed anything, I am pushing AGAINST the anti-vaccine crowd. who in my view are buying into the conspiracies.

As believers in Christ we should not be a part of this. Even the elders of my church has said we need to stop pushing the conspiracy stuff and become united..
 

Lucy-Pevensie

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Is this a jab at saying I am pushing a vaccine?

I have not pushed anything, I am pushing AGAINST the anti-vaccine crowd. who in my view are buying into the conspiracies.

As believers in Christ we should not be a part of this. Even the elders of my church has said we need to stop pushing the conspiracy stuff and become united..
All united under the same message global government has. Suit yourself and count me out.
I can get the same information from the WHO.
 

PennEd

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The deniers of the vaccine hazard are soon going to have to admit they were wrong:

Virologist Warns — ‘Mass Vaccination promotes viral evolution towards more infectious variants’…


Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche



Conducting mass vaccination campaigns on a background of high infection rates generates optimal conditions for breeding even more infectious Sars-CoV-2 variants.

The combination of massive, spike-directed immune pressure combined with high infectious pressure rapidly allows these variants to reproduce more effectively and outcompete previously circulating variants.

Mass vaccination, therefore, promotes viral evolution towards more infectious variants.

https://www.geertvandenbossche.org/...rcles-inevitably-leads-to-erroneous-decisions
 

JohnDB

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Junk science is everywhere lately... everyone quoting these "studies" with a predetermined outcome... especially in the last 18 months.
Of course Invermectin doesn't work.
Of course Hydrochloriquine doesn't work...

https://www.science.org/content/blog-post/awful-trials.

Read this link by a real scientist from a long standing reputable science magazine.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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All united under the same message global government has. Suit yourself and count me out.
I can get the same information from the WHO.
I am not united under any global government

To say people who are ok with the vaccine are falling under their spell is just wrong.

Your part of the problem. not the solution
 
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eternally-gratefull

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The deniers of the vaccine hazard are soon going to have to admit they were wrong:

Virologist Warns — ‘Mass Vaccination promotes viral evolution towards more infectious variants’…


Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche



Conducting mass vaccination campaigns on a background of high infection rates generates optimal conditions for breeding even more infectious Sars-CoV-2 variants.

The combination of massive, spike-directed immune pressure combined with high infectious pressure rapidly allows these variants to reproduce more effectively and outcompete previously circulating variants.

Mass vaccination, therefore, promotes viral evolution towards more infectious variants.

https://www.geertvandenbossche.org/...rcles-inevitably-leads-to-erroneous-decisions
Just more conspiracy. Just more division.

I am saddened by this nonsense.

If you want to get the shot. get it. If you don't want to get it. Don't.

We are to be united. not spreading fear and hate
 

PennEd

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Just more conspiracy. Just more division.

I am saddened by this nonsense.

If you want to get the shot. get it. If you don't want to get it. Don't.

We are to be united. not spreading fear and hate
What the kind are you talking about?

This guy is one of the premier virologists, with an impeccable reputation, who is very pro vaccine. Just not this one.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Junk science is everywhere lately... everyone quoting these "studies" with a predetermined outcome... especially in the last 18 months.
Of course Invermectin doesn't work.
Of course Hydrochloriquine doesn't work...

https://www.science.org/content/blog-post/awful-trials.

Read this link by a real scientist from a long standing reputable science magazine.
whats amazing is that for every scientist that says one thing, there is another highly reputable scientist that says the opposite.

What you are witnessing I believe is part of the division which is tearing the united states apart now. Twp sides who will attach anything the other side says.

They do not want to come together and find real solution.

This virus is man made. there is PROOF of this

Any country who does not try to fight this and protect their people should be ashamed. Trump is the one who pushed and started this vaccine stuff. Amazing how once Biden stole the election his supporters are all of a sudden against it.
 
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What the kind are you talking about?

This guy is one of the premier virologists, with an impeccable reputation, who is very pro vaccine. Just not this one.
I have heard the opposite from other people. I have heard from other reputable people say the virus stays dormant in your body. and is not even activated until a spike cell enters the body.

so who should I believe?

Again, I do not believe ANYTHING I hear anymore. Because you can find something from anyone.

We as believers should be the LAST people spreading this stuff..
 

Aidan1

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You realy believe van
The deniers of the vaccine hazard are soon going to have to admit they were wrong:

Virologist Warns — ‘Mass Vaccination promotes viral evolution towards more infectious variants’…


Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche



Conducting mass vaccination campaigns on a background of high infection rates generates optimal conditions for breeding even more infectious Sars-CoV-2 variants.

The combination of massive, spike-directed immune pressure combined with high infectious pressure rapidly allows these variants to reproduce more effectively and outcompete previously circulating variants.

Mass vaccination, therefore, promotes viral evolution towards more infectious variants.

https://www.geertvandenbossche.org/...rcles-inevitably-leads-to-erroneous-decisions
You realy believe van den Boosche? He is known for his false reporting.
 

John146

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I have heard the opposite from other people. I have heard from other reputable people say the virus stays dormant in your body. and is not even activated until a spike cell enters the body.

so who should I believe?

Again, I do not believe ANYTHING I hear anymore. Because you can find something from anyone.

We as believers should be the LAST people spreading this stuff..
Will the truth ever come about? Are we living in the last days of deception? I think we are...the question is, what is the deception?
 
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