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Dude653

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well, let's see, i said in march of last year that covid came from a chinese bio lad, was told " conspiracy theory ", turned out to be true.
i said summer 2020 that vaccine mandates and passports were coming, was told " conspiracy theory", turned out to be true.

i said last winter that the unvaxxed would be ostracized , turning out to be true.
'you call me and others who reject mainstream narritives and instead use independent media " conspiracy theorists " .

i say, call us right because more times than not, we are.
No it hasn't been confirmed that it indeed came from a lab. At this point it's just speculation and China isn't cooperating with any investigations
 

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JohnDB

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Right. Now you can fly around. Dont forget your mask and papers. Didnt Nazis issue travel papers? Oh well. Im sure thats more history to be erased.
When was the last time you flew out of the country?

Between visas and passports it never was all that simple.
 

JohnDB

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Yes. Your a winner. You have the papers to prove it.
Last time I went to Brazil I needed a visa which the application for included various vaccinations records.
I've been told that things were getting easier since my last trip but I haven't been back...the EU has been relatively simple and no vaccinations were required. And that goes as far east as Slovakia. China isn't exactly that easy.

Just saying.
 

Genipher

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178,000 people who drink and/or eat food die every year in the world.

I guess some of you are going to stop eating and drinking now because correlation = causation.
It's more like if 178,000 people ate or drank the same thing and then died shortly after. In which case, wouldn't you feel a little leery about eating or drinking the same thing?
 

ZNP

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Occam's razor. The idea that has to make the fewest assumptions is usually the logical path you want to pursue. In other words most conspiracy theories are bull poop
I don't believe in conspiracy theories, but I also don't believe in coincidences. So the pandemic came from Wuhan, not a coincidence that there is a bioweapons lab there, also not a conspiracy theory. First person to have been thought to have died from it worked at the bioweapons lab. Not a coincidence also not a conspiracy theory. Fauci funded gain of function research at the Wuhan bioweapons lab using Covid virus. Not a coincidence, also not a conspiracy theory, etc.
 

ZNP

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Sorry but the data shows that the vaccine works. The numbers don't lie. But please continue with your conspiracy stuff
This is true, the data also shows that after six months the effectiveness has waned significantly, and the data also shows that it doesn't protect you from certain variants which are now widespread due to the numbers vaccinated, and the data also shows concerning long term health effects -- 0, we don't have any data on that.
 

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There will be a new "variant" once maybe twice a year. They have control and arnt going to give it up. Keep people afraid and box in small business so they fail and the governnent can step in and"save the day". Then watch all the free stuff dry up. Straight from the communist playbook.
 

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It's more like if 178,000 people ate or drank the same thing and then died shortly after. In which case, wouldn't you feel a little leery about eating or drinking the same thing?
Absolutely not "more like" that. 100% of the people who took the vaccine will die... eventually... but it doesn't mean the vaccine will be the cause of death. I'm just highlighting the "correlation" part not having to do anything with the "causation".
 
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Sorry but the data shows that the vaccine works. The numbers don't lie. But please continue with your conspiracy stuff
The data you are referring to comes from Big Pharma that has created the vaxx for $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.

These are the children of wrath that God said to His Children to - not to follow after.

They follow their god.

i follow the WORD which is GOD.
 
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I'm going to need a citation where the Bible says don't get vaccinated. And don't say mark of the beast cuz that ain't it
A vaccine is not a mark ...one of Jesus was disciples was a doctor but yeah let's just ignore doctors and listen to random people on social media
Luke, the physician, did not follow the practices of pharmakia/vaxx which we are warned against in His Word.

All who seek Truth must travel the same path - we kneel before the One who shed His Blood for us, we take up our cross and follow Him, we pray for the Gift of the Holy Spirit to understand His Word and we wait and persist until we Receive from Him.
After we receive, in great joy, we continue in prayer and in the Word having the Comforter to Guide us into Truth.
This Truth the world cannot receive, nor understand - it is foolishness to them.
The further down this path we travel with JESUS the more the world will hate us - but He says to us "fear not for I have overcome the world."
Now our days increase with more Light to See and to be Ready when He comes for us - for we are His and no man can pluck us from His hand.
 

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This is true, the data also shows that after six months the effectiveness has waned significantly, and the data also shows that it doesn't protect you from certain variants which are now widespread due to the numbers vaccinated, and the data also shows concerning long term health effects -- 0, we don't have any data on that.
Two things...

The vaccine's efficacy wanes as time goes by...they are supposed to. At what point they protect against infection or stop we won't know...we do know that regardless that even at 12 months they continue to protect against severe disease with fairly great results. And that's why there's not going to actually be any boosters for the original virus for a while.

Secondly...
It's not the vaccinations that are causing the virus to mutate. It is most definitely those places in the world that have the worst sanitation and no vaccinations that develop the variants. Delta and Beta variant both came out of India where Lamda and Mu variants have come out of Africa and South America respectively. The virus mutates because of the lack of vaccinations...not because of them. The Vaccines stop the variants because of the lack of proliferation. These aren't plants...these are viruses. Ones we want extinct.
 

ZNP

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Two things...

The vaccine's efficacy wanes as time goes by...they are supposed to. At what point they protect against infection or stop we won't know...we do know that regardless that even at 12 months they continue to protect against severe disease with fairly great results. And that's why there's not going to actually be any boosters for the original virus for a while.
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Secondly...
It's not the vaccinations that are causing the virus to mutate. It is most definitely those places in the world that have the worst sanitation and no vaccinations that develop the variants. Delta and Beta variant both came out of India where Lamda and Mu variants have come out of Africa and South America respectively. The virus mutates because of the lack of vaccinations...not because of them. The Vaccines stop the variants because of the lack of proliferation. These aren't plants...these are viruses. Ones we want extinct.
Places that cannot social distance will mutate to more virulent strains (they'll be the most successful) while places that can use social distancing will mutate to the less virulent strains (they will be the most successful). However, don't worry,. the US will not be left out, we are bringing in hundreds of thousands of immigrants, housing them wall to wall in pens and then flying them all over the country. That is the perfect environment to develop virulent strains that can compete with anything India, or South Africa or Brazil can come up with.
 

JohnDB

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Places that cannot social distance will mutate to more virulent strains (they'll be the most successful) while places that can use social distancing will mutate to the less virulent strains (they will be the most successful). However, don't worry,. the US will not be left out, we are bringing in hundreds of thousands of immigrants, housing them wall to wall in pens and then flying them all over the country. That is the perfect environment to develop virulent strains that can compete with anything India, or South Africa or Brazil can come up with.
No...we have medicines and vaccines and sanitation... America has a very low chance of developing any variants. PRC had three variants developed before it even left Wuhan.

We've had two variants come out of India already. If they can actually vaccinate their population the creation of variants will greatly diminish. India has a caste system and very little in social welfare. So the chances are dim.


Mu and Lamda variants will take over soon BUT.... Moderna has finished stage 2 trials and is starting stage 3 trials of a new variant booster. That should provide protection against the variants...but of course the sources of these variants will continue to be unvaccinated and unsanitary and without medication.
 

ZNP

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No...we have medicines and vaccines and sanitation... America has a very low chance of developing any variants.
Do you realize that there can be ten immigrants living in a single apartment, that they may be working at home depot as day laborers without any insurance? That cities with buses and subways and trains will mix all this up, that these immigrants will work as busboys, cooks, processing chicken, pork, and beef, and all kinds of jobs where they will run into many other people. That many of them are being blackmailed by cartels to send money home and cannot afford to be sick.

Your view of the US seems to be unable to see the full picture.
 
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Bottom line is that it's our choice, either way. We don't have to like someone's choice, but we do need to respect it.
 

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Additional Legal Resources to Fight Vaccine Mandates

Via @ThePatriotAU

From: Rock Harbor Church

Hi Everyone,

We recently compiled a list of law firms that you may call if you believe your rights are being infringed upon by your employer, school, college, or any group that discriminates against you for not complying with their vaccine or mask mandates.

1. Liberty Counsel
https://lc.org/

2. Liberty Institute
https://www.libertyinstitute.org/about/faq

3. Pacific Justice Institute
https://www.secure.pacificjustice.org/site/SPageNavigator/contact_us.html

4. Advocates For Faith and Freedom
https://faith-freedom.com/

5. Alliance Defending Freedom
https://adflegal.org/about-us

6. National Legal Foundation
https://nationallegalfoundation.org/

7. Thomas More Law Center
https://www.thomasmore.org/

8. Thomas More Society
https://thomasmoresociety.org/

9. Christian Legal Society
https://www.christianlegalsociety.org/

10. American Center for Law and Justice
https://aclj.org/

11. Center for Law and Religious Freedom
https://www.clsreligiousfreedom.org/about-center

12. Christian Attorneys of America
https://christianattorneysofamerica.com/

13. Christian Law Association
https://www.christianlaw.org/

14. National Association of Christian Lawmakers
https://christianlawmakers.com/

15. Pacific Legal Foundation
https://pacificlegal.org/

Like I have mentioned before, most people (i.e. the people who just do what they are told by their employer, the government, or the narrative) do not know the law so they believe that vaccine and mask mandates can be enforced. However, this is not true. This is when you will have to push back and contact an attorney to get advice.

I hope this helps you because now is the time to stand up to this kind of injustice and draconian medical tyranny.

Pastor Brandon

Subscribe: @ThePatriotAU
 

JohnDB

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FDA panel rejects Pfizer’s COVID-19 vaccine booster in people 16 years and older

https://www.foxnews.com/health/fda-panel-pfizer-covid-19-vaccine-booster
There's a lot missing from that article as to why...

But suffice it to say that boosters of the original vaccine shots are extremely complicated.
And there's a high likelihood of doing more harm than good with a round of boosters. (People do some really dumb things)

This isn't something that you can do at a corner drugstore doctor...

But for those who want to know...

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/09/17/mod...-pfizer-jj-especially-after-4-months-cdc.html.

And mixing brands of vaccines is NOT a good idea...it usually weakens the protection and can possibly leave you without.
 
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