Vaccination?

[joaniemarie]

I'm a bit perplexed

People keep saying "the government" but we are talking about a global pandemic . There isn't one universal government system . Not yet anyway.

Different countries are operating under different rules .also there is not one "jab" there are different brands and versions of c19 vaccines they don't all work the same way. Some use mrna to bind into protein others use adenoviruses.

The goal of despots is "GLOBALISM" That is what all of these evil government GLOBALIST officials want for all us. Living under A ONE WORLD ORDER a ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT with ONE WORLD CURRENTCY.

And that is what the Bible talks about as well. Globalism doesn't work because people are NOT all the same, we are not just numbers. We have different customs and families., we have different communities., towns, counties, states and countries. To force all of us to be ALL THE SAME is totally wrong and deadly. It takes away individual importance, individual value as God sees each one of us.

Freedom is a vital GIFT and sad to say America is one of the LAST FREE countries in the world. The HISTORY, truths and FACTS of what America was founded upon have been deformed and lied about over the years. Even people on this thread are spreading the misinformation.

INDIVIDUAL FREEDOM is vital in order to defeat socialism and ultimately communism. Those freedoms are being systematically taken away HERE IN AMERICA by the same kind of despots in other countries.

 

[TheIndianGirl]

Yet people are voluntarily injecting spike proteins into their bodies:

The COVID virus itself is full of spike proteins which cause harm to the body. The technology of the current vaccines is such that our body makes "harmless" spike proteins so that our body recognizes them and creates antibodies. So, when we get the real COVID virus with harmful spike proteins, there are enough antibodies to fight the virus.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

We can even use this in relationship to deaths from Specific Vax Provider:

From Penn Ed's Article about creating Heart Failure and Death:
People who took the Moderna jab were 3x more likely to develop symptoms than those who took the Pfizer shot.[Direct Copy/Paste from the Article itself]


So we have hard fact studies that Moderna is 3x MORE likely to develop Heart Failure. That is 3x More possible Death over Pfizer in heart related deaths.

The problem is, like with anything, Where do they get these rates And what do they really mean.

You have to trust that the facts which are gathered are truthful. And I think as I look out today. I would not trust anything I read.

I think it is funny when people fight the covid death figures because they claim the facts are skewed. Yet these same people will trust these facts as truth.

Its like we got a double standard going on.

 

[SophieT]

Are we to spread fear or love?

oh...I dunno...
let's try to spread some truth

that would mean understanding that the so called covid vaccine is not actually a vaccine and it is EXPERIMENTAL

are you aware that what the FDA has actually put their stamp of approval on, is NOT the current vaccine...which is in circulation ONLY for emergency use? yeah that's right

the FDA has granted full approval to something else called Comirnaty.....and the kicker is that it is not yet available.

the ONLY Pfizer shot currently available is BNT162b2 and nothing has changed regarding its status. still only emergency use only

these two products differ widely in their legal liabilities

MORE TO COME ...just do not have time right now

I'm not a dummy, I don't present false info and at this point I wish I were wrong

 

[SophieT]

The problem is, like with anything, Where do they get these rates And what do they really mean.

You have to trust that the facts which are gathered are truthful. And I think as I look out today. I would not trust anything I read.

I think it is funny when people fight the covid death figures because they claim the facts are skewed. Yet these same people will trust these facts as truth.

Its like we got a double standard going on.

ps....listen...boy genius and you can take that with a grain of salt....how many trust Biden actually won the last election? no comparison you say? I rest my case

there is nothing funny in any of this....there are no same people BUT there are a good number of SANE people

you have A & WE dispensing medals to you...he does not know the difference between CONTACT and CONTRACT. smh

 

[John146]

I think we should stop talking about the meds, as that is not within our control. They are not available, whether they should be or not. Doctors will lose their license if they prescribe these meds. Pharmacies will stop the order. The choice now is to vaccinate or not.

Nope, I strongly disagree. frontlinemds.com Dr. Stella Immanuel and the front line doctors will help anyone who calls.

There are doctors around the country, many doctors, who are still prescribing these life-saving meds.

 

[SophieT]

Its like we got a double standard going on.

it's called divide and conquer. welcome to the devil's plan

 

[eternally-gratefull]

oh...I dunno...
let's try to spread some truth

that would mean understanding that the so called covid vaccine is not actually a vaccine and it is EXPERIMENTAL

are you aware that what the FDA has actually put their stamp of approval on, is NOT the current vaccine...which is in circulation ONLY for emergency use? yeah that's right

the FDA has granted full approval to something else called Comirnaty.....and the kicker is that it is not yet available.

the ONLY Pfizer shot currently available is BNT162b2 and nothing has changed regarding its status. still only emergency use only

these two products differ widely in their legal liabilities

MORE TO COME ...just do not have time right now

I'm not a dummy, I don't present false info and at this point I wish I were wrong

What truth? And who makes it truth?

That is what I am discussing.

You want to trust what this person says. To you that is your truth

Me, I don;t trust anyone. Because since this virus has come out of China. I really have not seen any truth. Just a lot of he said she said stuff. And depending on WHAT TRUTH is being discussed. I see peopel dice how this truth is flawed and the data does not match, But this truth (the one we agree with) is realiable

Again, The double standard especially amount believers is just amazing to me

I can just go by what I WITNESS.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

it's called divide and conquer. welcome to the devil's plan

Yep

And I see it on both sides.

Your side, and the other side.

 

[SophieT]

What truth? And who makes it truth?

That is what I am discussing.

You want to trust what this person says. To you that is your truth

Me, I don;t trust anyone. Because since this virus has come out of China. I really have not seen any truth. Just a lot of he said she said stuff. And depending on WHAT TRUTH is being discussed. I see peopel dice how this truth is flawed and the data does not match, But this truth (the one we agree with) is realiable

Again, The double standard especially amount believers is just amazing to me

I can just go by what I WITNESS.

I said later and that is when I will vouch for what I posted

in the meantime, why don't you, boy genius (...we have either agreed or really disagreed for some years now so whatever) research what I said about which vaccine is actually approved

you know...do that and I will take you a little more seriously

 

[eternally-gratefull]

ps....listen...boy genius and you can take that with a grain of salt....how many trust Biden actually won the last election? no comparison you say? I rest my case

there is nothing funny in any of this....there are no same people BUT there are a good number of SANE people

you have A & WE dispensing medals to you...he does not know the difference between CONTACT and CONTRACT. smh

Boy genius?

I said I DO NOT TRUST ANYTHING I HEAR FROM ANYONE

What does Biden have to do with anything?

I do not trust anything about the last election. I had a conspiracy theorist keep telling me all this stuff about How trump won, and we are going to hear of all this stuff.

and all I heard was crickets. He kept apologizing for giving false info. Yet he kept on doing it

Its what I see here. Again, from both sides.

 

[TheIndianGirl]

There are doctors around the country, many doctors, who are still prescribing these life-saving meds.

Doctors part of hospital systems, especially in the cities, are generally not doing this. Perhaps a private practice not affiliated with a hospital system.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I said later and that is when I will vouch for what I posted

in the meantime, why don't you, boy genius (...we have either agreed or really disagreed for some years now so whatever) research what I said about which vaccine is actually approved

you know...do that and I will take you a little more seriously

lol

I said I DO NOT TRUST ANY INFORMATION FROM ANYONE CONCERNING THIS MATTER

and you want me to research?

So If I do not trust anythign I read from either side. HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO RESEARCH?

How am I supposed to take you seriously when you can not even listen to anything I say. And keep thinking if I RESEARCH WHAT YOU ARE READING I WILL CHANGE MY MIND? When I said over and over, I DO NOT TRUST ANYTHING

 

[SophieT]

What truth? And who makes it truth?

oh sorry...one more thing...I read that and the first thing popped into my very active little mind, was

what is love? ever heard that song?...somehow you made that connection to me

and I'm not even feeling cantankerous LOL!

 

[eternally-gratefull]

oh sorry...one more thing...I read that and the first thing popped into my very active little mind, was

what is love? ever heard that song?...somehow you made that connection to me

and I'm not even feeling cantankerous LOL!

We have to laugh at all this stuff. Otherwise I think we will lose our minds..

 

[John146]

The goal of despots is "GLOBALISM" That is what all of these evil government GLOBALIST officials want for all us. Living under A ONE WORLD ORDER a ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT with ONE WORLD CURRENTCY.

And that is what the Bible talks about as well. Globalism doesn't work because people are NOT all the same, we are not just numbers. We have different customs and families., we have different communities., towns, counties, states and countries. To force all of us to be ALL THE SAME is totally wrong and deadly. It takes away individual importance, individual value as God sees each one of us.

Freedom is a vital GIFT and sad to say America is one of the LAST FREE countries in the world. The HISTORY, truths and FACTS of what America was founded upon have been deformed and lied about over the years. Even people on this thread are spreading the misinformation.

INDIVIDUAL FREEDOM is vital in order to defeat socialism and ultimately communism. Those freedoms are being systematically taken away HERE IN AMERICA by the same kind of despots in other countries.

Yes, so the lesson is...whatever the majority is pushing...refuse, it's not good.

 

[John146]

Doctors part of hospital systems, especially in the cities, are generally not doing this. Perhaps a private practice not affiliated with a hospital system.

Yes, and these doctors have their hands tied. Many have died as a result.

 

[TheIndianGirl]

Doctors part of hospital systems, especially in the cities, are generally not doing this. Perhaps a private practice not affiliated with a hospital system.

The first line of defense now is monoclonal antibodies after testing positive with the patient showing some symptoms such as coughs, according to my doctor.

 

[CS1]

oh...I dunno...
let's try to spread some truth

that would mean understanding that the so called covid vaccine is not actually a vaccine and it is EXPERIMENTAL

are you aware that what the FDA has actually put their stamp of approval on, is NOT the current vaccine...which is in circulation ONLY for emergency use? yeah that's right

the FDA has granted full approval to something else called Comirnaty.....and the kicker is that it is not yet available.

the ONLY Pfizer shot currently available is BNT162b2 and nothing has changed regarding its status. still only emergency use only

these two products differ widely in their legal liabilities

MORE TO COME ...just do not have time right now

I'm not a dummy, I don't present false info and at this point I wish I were wrong

you are right, the sad thing is hearing those who say foolish things like we to spread fear and not love or


"You have to trust that the facts which are gathered are truthful."

" I think it is funny when people fight the covid death figures because they claim the facts are skewed. "

They have a short memory of what happened in 2019-2020.

1. this was only going to be two weeks of isolation
2. this was done only to slow the spread not stop it
3. State of officials call all death COVID-19 related even if it was not
4. in 2020-2021 The common flu and Cold did not show up as it does every year killing over 300, 000 each year Only COVID-19 was the culprit.

And on and on it goes. CDC changed its position within 24 hours after the Teacher's union Complained. The WHO lied about China. and on and on it goes.
California said we all must mitigate and isolate but not BLM or protesters, yet they forced churches to close or be fined. They allowed the homeless to place tents anywhere and do drugs and defecate in the public. NO serious issues with that? no medical concerns of Hepatitis, MRSA, COVID-19, drug addiction, and dead bodies that were left in these homeless areas until they started to rot.

The media has not addressed this fully, yet those here are moved by fear and make excuses for what they don't know because they clearly are not in street ministries.

 

[Aidan1]

The jab is NOT a true vaccine, e.g. fails to grasp this and all other truth about it and the scam-demic.

You seems dont know what is a vaccine or how vaccines work. According your reactions.