Steven Anderson is wrong - Sodomites can still be saved.

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ChosenbyHim

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Amen.

Any sinner can be saved. Even Sodomites (Homosexuals and Lesbians). If they will simply believe the Gospel of The Death, Burial and Resurrection of our Lord Jesus Christ, trusting alone in that Finished Work of His, as the only sufficient payment for their sins. I saw Aden Rusfeldt recently tell a group of Sodomites on a campus somewhere, that they could not be saved. Basically he was telling them that there is no hope for them. And then in another video, I heard another preacher in his group, telling Sodomites at a pride event "I would not even share my testimony with you." Well, of course, he wouldn't. Why would he? he doesn't think that they can be saved anyway. Which also brings up another question to my mind, why are they even out there preaching to them? I am mean If God cannot save them, According to their reprobate heresy, well then aren't they wasting their time??? Oh but they will go out there just to call them names and to rail on them.

Well, he, like Steven Anderson, is also wrong. That's Heresy. Once again, this kind of thinking of theirs, comes from that "reprobate doctrine." If Sodomites cannot be saved, then neither can those other sinners be saved in that list of Romans 1 (i.e. backbiters, whisperers, covetous, fornicators, boasters, inventors of evil things, murderers, disobedient to parent's, etc.) The truth is, that whole group of Gentiles mentioned in Romans 1, had been given over to a reprobate mind and not just the Sodomites (Homosexuals and Lesbians). What is a reprobate mind? Simply put, it is a mind that is inverted. Any wicked person that is depraved has a reprobate mind at that present time. Which would explain why their conduct is as wicked as it is. But even a Reprobate can still be saved, if he will repent (change his mind about God and about himself) and believe the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

 
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rayzor

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ChosenbyHim said:
Amen.

Any sinner can be saved. Even Sodomites (Homosexuals and Lesbians). If they will simply believe the Gospel of The Death, Burial and Resurrection of our Lord Jesus Christ, trusting alone in that Finished Work of His, as the only sufficient payment for their sins. I saw Aden Rusfeldt recently tell a group of Sodomites on a campus somewhere, that they could not be saved. Basically he was telling them that there is no hope for them. And then in another video, I heard another preacher in his group, telling Sodomites at a pride event "I would not even share my testimony with you." Well, of course, he wouldn't. Why would he? he doesn't think that they can be saved anyway. Which also brings up another question to my mind, why are they even out there preaching to them? I am mean If God cannot save them, According to their reprobate heresy, well then aren't they wasting their time??? Oh but they will go out there just to call them names and to rail on them.

Well, he, like Steven Anderson, is also wrong. That's Heresy. Once again, this kind of thinking of theirs, comes from that "reprobate doctrine." If Sodomites cannot be saved, then neither can those other sinners be saved in that list of Romans 1 (i.e. backbiters, whisperers, covetous, fornicators, boasters, inventors of evil things, murderers, disobedient to parent's, etc.) The truth is, that whole group of Gentiles mentioned in Romans 1, had been given over to a reprobate mind and not just the Sodomites (Homosexuals and Lesbians). What is a reprobate mind? Simply put, it is a mind that is inverted. Any wicked person that is depraved has a reprobate mind at that present time. Which would explain why their conduct is as wicked as it is. But even a Reprobate can still be saved, if he will repent (change his mind about God and about himself) and believe the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

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yes but he's a good Greek instructor.:)
 
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rayzor

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Paul says that their body is turned over to the devil so that their soul is not lost.
 
Desdichado

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Yes, but the term "sodomite" would indicate someone who practices it unapologetically.

Again, I stress the difference between possible and probable.
 
TabinRivCA

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That would certainly be for God to decide, we don't know who's crossed the line or not.
 
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rayzor

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Eze 16:49
Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, pride, fullness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy.Remember? there was a cry to heaven from that city for help,,it was a mercy killing.It is still on fire to this day.,,Point is the gay thing, was a result not the root.
 
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rayzor

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Nehemiah6 said:
Of course. That goes without saying. Why is Steven Anderson so important? Never even heard of him.
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Because he is a ham, he became famous in a limited since. we had a similar experience with the police
He is one of my teachers, note: call nobody teacher. For there is only one that gives understanding that's the Christ.
 
TabinRivCA

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Desdichado said:
Yes, but the term "sodomite" would indicate someone who practices it unapologetically.

Again, I stress the difference between possible and probable.
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Desdichado said:
Where did I make the argument it wasn't God's decision?
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Above quote it seemed you were saying they were too far gone to be saved.
 
Desdichado

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My quote, in fact, disproves your assertion.
 
TabinRivCA

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What assertion did you disprove?
 
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ChosenbyHim said:
Amen.

Any sinner can be saved. Even Sodomites (Homosexuals and Lesbians). If they will simply believe the Gospel of The Death, Burial and Resurrection of our Lord Jesus Christ, trusting alone in that Finished Work of His, as the only sufficient payment for their sins. I saw Aden Rusfeldt recently tell a group of Sodomites on a campus somewhere, that they could not be saved. Basically he was telling them that there is no hope for them. And then in another video, I heard another preacher in his group, telling Sodomites at a pride event "I would not even share my testimony with you." Well, of course, he wouldn't. Why would he? he doesn't think that they can be saved anyway. Which also brings up another question to my mind, why are they even out there preaching to them? I am mean If God cannot save them, According to their reprobate heresy, well then aren't they wasting their time??? Oh but they will go out there just to call them names and to rail on them.

Well, he, like Steven Anderson, is also wrong. That's Heresy. Once again, this kind of thinking of theirs, comes from that "reprobate doctrine." If Sodomites cannot be saved, then neither can those other sinners be saved in that list of Romans 1 (i.e. backbiters, whisperers, covetous, fornicators, boasters, inventors of evil things, murderers, disobedient to parent's, etc.) The truth is, that whole group of Gentiles mentioned in Romans 1, had been given over to a reprobate mind and not just the Sodomites (Homosexuals and Lesbians). What is a reprobate mind? Simply put, it is a mind that is inverted. Any wicked person that is depraved has a reprobate mind at that present time. Which would explain why their conduct is as wicked as it is. But even a Reprobate can still be saved, if he will repent (change his mind about God and about himself) and believe the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

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Agreed. I had a friend who was gay but got born again. He sang in a classical choir. He was convicted by Handel's Messiah. Lord Jesus saved some of the least likely, including slave trader John Newton. God's grace far surpasses the understanding of men.
 
Deuteronomy

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The Bible tells us that walking away from sin, even if it involves an unrepentant sinful lifestyle, is possible in/because of Christ. As the Apostle told those in the church at Corinth,

1 Corinthians 6
9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals [sodomites],
10 nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God.
11 ~Such WERE some of you~; but you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God.​

~Deut
p.s. - "sodomite" is considered an offensive term by many (most?) LGBTQ folks, so it's typically best to leave it out of conversations that we have with them (IMHO) .. e.g. 1 Corinthians 13:1; Ephesians 4:15, 29.
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