A prayer for racist people

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Dude653

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Dude, I know you like to play dumb. But I can see from the pattern of your posts that you are not. I would suggest elevating your game.
Ad hominem dually noted but it is being investigated and people are being prosecuted
 

ZNP

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None. No reason at all because the FBI is totally politically neutral. They don't have any agendas at all. And their actions and motivations have always been as pure as the wind driven snow. The fact that they didn't go after any ANTIFA's or BLM is because those were all peaceful protests. But the Jan 6 rally was a terrorist event that resulted in the complete destruction of the capital building.
This brought a tear to my eye, all you needed was a violin in the background.
 
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Ad hominem dually noted but it is being investigated and people are being prosecuted
I'm not attacking you. I was complimenting you. For real. My point was that the FBI selectively enforces stuff according to its political agenda. You responded by saying that they are going after the Jan 6 people. At which point I'm saying "THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT!! Why are you even bringing it up! They are enforcing the law against people that are nominally to the right, but not against ANTIFA. And the subtle implication was that if they are willing to selectively enforce, then they're also likely to take more active measures to paint the landscape to suit their purposes. MKUltra, etc." If your name was @TimothyGodIsLove then I would assume you just couldn't understand. But you're above average intelligence so my best guess is that you're just playing about not understanding this.
 

SomeDisciple

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1. You say there's no way the ethnonationalists will ever win. That's just your opinion. My opinion is that it's inevitable. I think the US is going to split up on ethnic lines because there's really nothing holding it together other than governmental force. The best reason to think that it wouldn't happen is just normalcy bias. Remember DIVERSITY+PROXIMITY=WAR
I don't think it's only government force. Racial tensions are petty, and highly exaggerated by the media, and people with an agenda. And while I will admit that "diversity is strength" is a bunch of nonsense, I don't think a race war is an inevitable outcome. Our nation could be mono-racial and still have petty divisions based on self interest. The same goes for any hypothetical ethnostate as well.
2. Good job on actually listening to some alternatives. It's harder and harder to get any alternative views out there. Everyone remotely sympathetic to the dissident right is getting banned, doxxed, demonetized, imprisoned, etc. I've even had my spotify lists curbed by left wing censorship. Anytime someone has to use the force of law or mob rule in order to curb speech and thought, then you can pretty much tell that those doing the censoring are wrong. Here's a pop quiz for you: Name the website that was shut down by Cloudflare....completely illegally...and no one in any authority had the guts to stop it from happening. That failure by supposedly "conservative" leadership is why pretty much everyone on the right has been silenced now.
You know, it never occurred to me (and I did have to look this up, but after I did, I remembered) that 8chan could be the beginning of something bigger (I was not an 8chan user). Perhaps we should have been able to forsee what was to come. And the far left gets to continue to say whatever they want wherever they want, whenever they want.
As of yet, I don't see that the battle for the internet has been fully answered by conservative leadership either, so you won't get any argument from me on this topic.
3. You keep using this term "all jews". What you're doing is setting up a straw man in your own mind in order to knock it down and satisfy yourself that the Red Ice types are wrong. I can tell by the way you're writing that you know they're right. You know how I know this? It's because you're not talking about how they're wrong. Instead you're talking about how they appear or whether they can succeed. You're not really talking about why they're wrong...because you know they're right...about a lot of stuff. I would encourage you to follow the truth no matter where it might lead.
I'm not talking about how they are wrong because I am being diplomatic, and I like to investigate things- not because I secretly agree with them. The reason I mentioned how they appear and their apparent low chances of success (in my opinion), is because I think they should re-think some of the way that they present themselves, and some of their objectives. With respect to their outcry against "Jews"- it's totally uncalled for, man. I know there are some so-called Jews with bad intentions, but that doesn't mean you go around shouting "JEWS WILL NOT REPLACE US!!!!" That's immediately going to be interpreted as anti-semitism by most people, and they if truly are anti-semitic then they deserve whatever condemnation they get. Their movement completely lacks sensible leadership.
4. You statement was ironic because stupidity has nothing to do with racism. I know a couple dumb "racists". I know more really smart "racists". In fact I would bet that racism and intelligence are positively correlated. Smart people recognize patterns. Stupid people can't. That's why stupid people think race is just about skin color. The only people that would say that are the ignorant or the willfully duped...or the truly evil ones trying to deceive you.
Maybe you win this one? I honestly don't know how to define racism these days. I know that I am considered a racist to some people because I believe in citizenship :eek::eek::eek:. I have a far narrower definition and view of "racism" than that- I consider malicious or ignorant prejudice to be "racism" and I would certainly, for the sake of clear communication and understanding, use a different word for any sort of positive distinction/discrimination between races.
 

Dude653

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Yeah not everything is a giant conspiracy. People trespassed on government property and they are being prosecuted for it
 

ZNP

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Yeah not everything is a giant conspiracy. People trespassed on government property and they are being prosecuted for it
They are kept in solitary confinement for trespassing? They tell us that they cannot release tens of thousands of hours of video of a tourist attraction because of national security? We learn that the FBI had many informants and yet Pelosi refuses the necessary security which was offered to her? They want to impeach Trump but then drop the investigation when Trump announces Pelosi is on his witness list? They all tell us this was the biggest threat to democracy, refuse to let us see the video evidence, and when the video evidence is finally released they argue that there was no conspiracy to commit any crime and that this was only a case of misdemeanor trespassing and no insurrection?
 

Dude653

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They are kept in solitary confinement for trespassing? They tell us that they cannot release tens of thousands of hours of video of a tourist attraction because of national security? We learn that the FBI had many informants and yet Pelosi refuses the necessary security which was offered to her? They want to impeach Trump but then drop the investigation when Trump announces Pelosi is on his witness list? They all tell us this was the biggest threat to democracy, refuse to let us see the video evidence, and when the video evidence is finally released they argue that there was no conspiracy to commit any crime and that this was only a case of misdemeanor trespassing and no insurrection?
Most of them have just been charged with misdemeanor trespassing but there are some who have more serious charges like the Viking guy
 

ZNP

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Most of them have just been charged with misdemeanor trespassing but there are some who have more serious charges like the Viking guy
We call him the Chewbaka guy, yes terrifying, he called the halls of congress sacred ground! It's outrageous, calling a den of thieves a house of prayer! Crucify him!
 

Justified

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Why would they be so extremist, after all it's just skin.
Because they are not the brightest of people. Mostly it is because they do not know anyone that is not like them. It does not matter what group, race, faith etc. for some people if your not one of us then your the enemy. That is just how closed minded some people are.
 

Nehemiah6

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We are all made in the image of God...
Correct. But you have failed to mention the strong support for Black Racism in the USA under Biden and his gang of thugs. They have made Black Racism into national policy and Critical Race Theory into their Mein Kampf. Check it out since Louis Farrakhan must be rejoicing. He said "Kill All Whites" and he meant it. And did you see how the Black Caucus of Congress showed their hatred and contempt for Trump? You can thank Barack Obama for this surge in Black Racism when White Racism was actually on the decline.
 

Gideon300

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Why would they be so extremist, after all it's just skin.
Satan infects the minds of such people and leads them astray. Hitler used the theory of evolution to promote the idea of racial superiority. He really believed this lie. The Jews pretty much controlled the banking industry. Hitler used that to turn Germans against Jews. Many left Germany (Einstein for one) because they could see where this was going. So normal, hard working and intelligent people were convinced that Jews were a real problem and should be driven out or worse. You think that strange? The insanity of flat earth beliefs and COVID conspiracies show that people are just as susceptible to delusion now. So don't be surprised if racists can convince others to be racist also.

Racism in inbuilt in fallen man. It's not just skin colour. Tribal Africa is just as racist, or more so, than the "black v white" racism in other countries. India is racist, so is Pakistan. Skin colour is not the issue, it is tribal.
 

Dude653

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Correct. But you have failed to mention the strong support for Black Racism in the USA under Biden and his gang of thugs. They have made Black Racism into national policy and Critical Race Theory into their Mein Kampf. Check it out since Louis Farrakhan must be rejoicing. He said "Kill All Whites" and he meant it. And did you see how the Black Caucus of Congress showed their hatred and contempt for Trump? You can thank Barack Obama for this surge in Black Racism when White Racism was actually on the decline.
I would agree with you on this one.
I was recently listening to a Sam Harris podcast when he was discussing this very issue
He talks about how there was media bias and how BLM spent an entire summer burning down entire city blocks but the media praise them as peaceful protests
 

Gideon300

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Because they are not the brightest of people. Mostly it is because they do not know anyone that is not like them. It does not matter what group, race, faith etc. for some people if your not one of us then your the enemy. That is just how closed minded some people are.
It's human nature. Intelligence does not come into it. My father was highly intelligent and claimed to be entirely free of racism. Then we moved to a country where he had to live alongside people who were not white. It did not take long for him to change his tune. This is a man who could do "The Times" cryptic crossword in 3 hours. Circumstances expose the heart, they do not change it.
 

Gideon300

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Jews, that's not real and not even possible, Jews would never take over the world or are they referring to the billionaires who call the shots on the American government... Are they Jewish, last time I checked most are whites. Bill Gates, Elon Musk, Mark Zuckerberg. This worry is unfounded and unfair.
There are an awful lot of Jews in very influential places. I'm not saying that is a bad thing. Some people get jealous. It's ironic that Hitler's obsession with the Jews contributed to his defeat in WW2.

You can be white and a Jew. I worked for one for a couple of years. He looked like any other Aussie. This is true of European Jews generally.
 
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i was watching this documentary on Australia 60 MInutes about the National Socialist Network. and i was shocked to learn that these groups are in almost every Western Country. The group holds secret meetings and make statements such as "There is a race war", "We need a white Australia for the white man", "Hail Hitler, nothing will stop us","White Australia defended by white guns". There was an undercover agent who tried to get himself recruited and they asked him questions like "What is your view on the Jews?" I believe these groups are the same that rioted before the White House when Trump lost to Mr Biden. Their leader, reads from Adolf Hitler's book "Mein Kampf". This is clearly the same Spirit of hate that inspired Hitler to eradicate 6 million Jews during WW2 for no apparent reason. We rebuke that spirit of hate in the name of Jesus. We are all made in the image of God and each human with his or her own actions contributes consciously or unconsciously to the destiny of the whole world.
Love is the antidote to hate. We pray to God to open the eyes of these people so that they realize all that matters after they die is not their color or race, but whether they slept in Christ. The beauty of this world is fading away under the curses that came onto it from the original sin. Jesus died for all people from all nations, an act of love.
We pray that God may fill their hearts with the truth that suprasses all truths, that we are all human and the enemy is not a brother of different color but viruses, wars and secret cults pulling the strings behind our backs to finish us off , be blessed.
Am sharing a link to that video below...
According to the average 'woke' person, every white person is racist by default, so it doesn't much matter what white people do.
 
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No. It's not. Race is a lot more than skin. If you wanted to understand people that don't think like you, then you could start by acknowledging the truth. Your offering to "pray for them" is nothing more than virtue signalling. This is clear from your subsequent comments.
Yes. If someone has a different skin colour than yourself, it suggests they are extremely genetically different, think differently, act differently etc.
 

Justified

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It's human nature. Intelligence does not come into it. My father was highly intelligent and claimed to be entirely free of racism. Then we moved to a country where he had to live alongside people who were not white. It did not take long for him to change his tune. This is a man who could do "The Times" cryptic crossword in 3 hours. Circumstances expose the heart, they do not change it.
That was not intended as a comment on the intellect just on the attitude of the people.
 

ZNP

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