Debunking the claims that the vaccine mandate is the MOTB

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1. First, they claim that if you don't have the MOTB you can't buy or sell, and the greek word for buy actually means to enter into the marketplace. So let me look into what they have here. Hmmm, OK they give a few examples of places where this law has already gone into effect: Lithuania and some city in New Zealand. OK, let's skip this point.

2. Second they claim that the number of the copyright for this technology is 666, actually the number is 060606, OK, let's skip this point.

3. Third they say that this "vaccine" is made from aborted fetuses, the blood of innocents. OK, let's check to see what right wing nut is saying this. OK, let's skip this point.

4. Fourth they talk about it being composed of something called Luciferase. OK, let's skip this point.

5. Fifth, they point out that Fauci is a member of the Freemasons which practice witchcraft and sorcery. So let's see what evidence they have for this! OK, let's skip this point.

6. Sixth, they say that this "pandemic" is really a "plandemic" and that it is part of the "great delusion". OK, let's see what evidence they have on this! (Fauci lied, Phony scientific studies, originated in Wuhan, yada, yada, yada). OK, let's skip this point.

7. Seventh, they are saying they inflated the numbers of dead from Covid19 and they are hiding the data on the adverse reactions to the vaccine. C'mon man, the the scope of this paranoid conspiracy is off the hook, what is this 'the great lie"? Hmmm, OK, let's skip this point.

8. They say that the MOTB is used to hold all of your personal data that the government can track and this system is currently being tested in Africa by the Bill Gates foundation. Hmmm, OK, let's skip this point.

9. The MOTB is in the right hand! Ha! You see that they don't inject this in your right hand! Case closed!
 

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1. First, they claim that if you don't have the MOTB you can't buy or sell, and the greek word for buy actually means to enter into the marketplace. So let me look into what they have here. Hmmm, OK they give a few examples of places where this law has already gone into effect: Lithuania and some city in New Zealand. OK, let's skip this point.

2. Second they claim that the number of the copyright for this technology is 666, actually the number is 060606, OK, let's skip this point.

3. Third they say that this "vaccine" is made from aborted fetuses, the blood of innocents. OK, let's check to see what right wing nut is saying this. OK, let's skip this point.

4. Fourth they talk about it being composed of something called Luciferase. OK, let's skip this point.

5. Fifth, they point out that Fauci is a member of the Freemasons which practice witchcraft and sorcery. So let's see what evidence they have for this! OK, let's skip this point.

6. Sixth, they say that this "pandemic" is really a "plandemic" and that it is part of the "great delusion". OK, let's see what evidence they have on this! (Fauci lied, Phony scientific studies, originated in Wuhan, yada, yada, yada). OK, let's skip this point.

7. Seventh, they are saying they inflated the numbers of dead from Covid19 and they are hiding the data on the adverse reactions to the vaccine. C'mon man, the the scope of this paranoid conspiracy is off the hook, what is this 'the great lie"? Hmmm, OK, let's skip this point.

8. They say that the MOTB is used to hold all of your personal data that the government can track and this system is currently being tested in Africa by the Bill Gates foundation. Hmmm, OK, let's skip this point.

9. The MOTB is in the right hand! Ha! You see that they don't inject this in your right hand! Case closed!
The only way the vaccine mandate could be tied to the MOTB is if someone figures out how to inject it into the right hand.
 
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Revelation needs a mind with wisdom, when the Holy Ghost pauses and says "This calls for a mind with wisdom", He was as literal as He sounded, unless God gives you wisdom to know what the mark is, you can't rely on your own understanding. When Jesus was born, only the wise men understood the meaning of the star in the heavens and they were very few. In this present time and age, those who might understand the true meaning of the mark are very few just as the wise men. They are out there but they are silent and they know
 
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Revelation 13:17 point blank says what the mark of the beast is. It's a mark, name, or number etched on the right hand or forehead.

17And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

Don't get any marks on your right hand or forehead, especially if they're names or numbers.

By avoiding all marks on your right hand or forehead you've successfully avoided the mark of the beast, whatever it may be. Problem solved.
 

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Revelation 13:17 point blank says what the mark of the beast is. It's a mark, name, or number etched on the right hand or forehead.

17And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

Don't get any marks on your right hand or forehead, especially if they're names or numbers.

By avoiding all marks on your right hand or forehead you've successfully avoided the mark of the beast, whatever it may be. Problem solved.
but what if you can't buy or sell? People got the vaccine mandate because they were going to lose their job if they didn't, this is just one small step more.
 

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10 Since you have kept my command to endure patiently, I will also keep you from the hour of trial that is going to come on the whole world to test the inhabitants of the earth.

The trial is going to come on the whole world and the rapture will take place prior to that. At the moment is not on "the whole world" so we still have time before the rapture.

Scary, everyone is holding the phone in their right hand.
 

ZNP

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All joking aside the Bible refers to the Mark of the Beast and we can now clearly see without any dispute that the vaccine mandate will go from paper, to phone, to RFID chip implanted in your hand.
 
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but what if you can't buy or sell? People got the vaccine mandate because they were going to lose their job if they didn't, this is just one small step more.
I think that deciding to take the mark or not will put people between a rock and a hard place: self-preservation or losing life.

The vaccine mandate is also putting people in a position to make a tough decision. I can see why the vaccine mandate scares people; it's a big red flag!
 

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1. First, they claim that if you don't have the MOTB you can't buy or sell, and the greek word for buy actually means to enter into the marketplace. So let me look into what they have here. Hmmm, OK they give a few examples of places where this law has already gone into effect: Lithuania and some city in New Zealand. OK, let's skip this point.

2. Second they claim that the number of the copyright for this technology is 666, actually the number is 060606, OK, let's skip this point.

3. Third they say that this "vaccine" is made from aborted fetuses, the blood of innocents. OK, let's check to see what right wing nut is saying this. OK, let's skip this point.

4. Fourth they talk about it being composed of something called Luciferase. OK, let's skip this point.

5. Fifth, they point out that Fauci is a member of the Freemasons which practice witchcraft and sorcery. So let's see what evidence they have for this! OK, let's skip this point.

6. Sixth, they say that this "pandemic" is really a "plandemic" and that it is part of the "great delusion". OK, let's see what evidence they have on this! (Fauci lied, Phony scientific studies, originated in Wuhan, yada, yada, yada). OK, let's skip this point.

7. Seventh, they are saying they inflated the numbers of dead from Covid19 and they are hiding the data on the adverse reactions to the vaccine. C'mon man, the the scope of this paranoid conspiracy is off the hook, what is this 'the great lie"? Hmmm, OK, let's skip this point.

8. They say that the MOTB is used to hold all of your personal data that the government can track and this system is currently being tested in Africa by the Bill Gates foundation. Hmmm, OK, let's skip this point.

9. The MOTB is in the right hand! Ha! You see that they don't inject this in your right hand! Case closed!
How much did Antifa pay you to post this message? Anyways, the mark is much more complicated when you take the word "mark" back to concordance (The root language the Bible is originally based off of which is either "Biblical Hebrew" or "Greek" ). One thing the Lord taught me is the issue with taking something from one language to another is you "lose a whole lot of meaning" and "gain a whole lot of meaning". This is easy enough to demonstrate with the modern languages. For example https://learnjapanese123.com/15-japanese-words-do-not-exist-in-english/ . Knowing the history of how the Bible came to be one will know half of the book is originally "Biblical Hebrew" and the other half was "Greek". That citation is from biblehub which has a concordance option available to take the Bible back to the root languages.

One may even purchase a printed concordance if they prefer a print version. Anyways, based on the image. sculpture, engraving, a stamp, a sign, a scratch, and even an etching are all plausible as well for interpretation... Making this have a much more expanded connotation.

I default to Proverbs 3:5-6 KJV and Proverbs 25:2 KJV in this situation.

Proverbs 3:5-6 KJV
5 Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.
6 In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths.

Proverbs 25:2 KJV
2 It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter.

Basically, we lack enough data before we can make such a potentially grievous presumption in error. And if the culprit is indeed the spoken of "Graphene Oxide" it is literally hidden on our United States dollar... This is what Graphene Oxide looks like under a microscope when heavily magnified. I leave these topics for people to consider for themselves. Say no to the jab please and anything else these snake oil sells-men are peddlin! You won't say no to pcr tests, masks, or vaccines; how do you expect to say no to the mark later assuming it isn't the mark and has yet to appear? Just don't risk it and say NO to all of it!!!

Remember this as well. If these vaccines are so safe. Why is it so hard to go to the hospitals and blood donor clinics to get answers on what is really in the syringes? Until they lower the walls of secrecy they have something to hide from all of us. Til I can personally testify to what I see in a syringe I am saying no to all of this covid nonsense.
 

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ZNP

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How much did Antifa pay you to post this message? Anyways, the mark is much more complicated when you take the word "mark" back to concordance (The root language the Bible is originally based off of which is either "Biblical Hebrew" or "Greek" ). One thing the Lord taught me is the issue with taking something from one language to another is you "lose a whole lot of meaning" and "gain a whole lot of meaning". This is easy enough to demonstrate with the modern languages. For example https://learnjapanese123.com/15-japanese-words-do-not-exist-in-english/ . Knowing the history of how the Bible came to be one will know half of the book is originally "Biblical Hebrew" and the other half was "Greek". That citation is from biblehub which has a concordance option available to take the Bible back to the root languages.

One may even purchase a printed concordance if they prefer a print version. Anyways, based on the image. sculpture, engraving, a stamp, a sign, a scratch, and even an etching are all plausible as well for interpretation... Making this have a much more expanded connotation.

I default to Proverbs 3:5-6 KJV and Proverbs 25:2 KJV in this situation.

Proverbs 3:5-6 KJV
5 Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.
6 In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths.

Proverbs 25:2 KJV
2 It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter.

Basically, we lack enough data before we can make such a potentially grievous presumption in error. And if the culprit is indeed the spoken of "Graphene Oxide" it is literally hidden on our United States dollar... This is what Graphene Oxide looks like under a microscope when heavily magnified. I leave these topics for people to consider for themselves. Say no to the jab please and anything else these snake oil sells-men are peddlin! You won't say no to pcr tests, masks, or vaccines; how do you expect to say no to the mark later assuming it isn't the mark and has yet to appear? Just don't risk it and say NO to all of it!!!

Remember this as well. If these vaccines are so safe. Why is it so hard to go to the hospitals and blood donor clinics to get answers on what is really in the syringes? Until they lower the walls of secrecy they have something to hide from all of us. Til I can personally testify to what I see in a syringe I am saying no to all of this covid nonsense.
Sorry if you don't appreciate my sense of humor.
 

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Not everyone believes the mark of the beast on the hand and forehead are literal devices or marks such as computer chips, vaccines, implants, bank cards, or anything similar, and there are Scriptural reasons to believe they are not... much in the same way we would not accept that just because people were trying to build the tower of Babel meant we think they could have actually reached God that way, through their human means and/or effort, or that the laws written on our hearts are literally etched/chiseled there.

The forehead very much represents a person's thinking and beliefs, out of which arise
the actions anyone takes and the things we do and what we serve with our hands.

Revelation 14:1 says, Then I looked, and there before me was the Lamb, standing on Mount Zion,
and with him 144, 000 who had His name and His Father's name written on their foreheads.


Revelation 22:4 says: They will see His face, and His name will be on their foreheads.

I believe the mark is meant to be symbolic of to Whom we have pledged our allegiance.

Deuteronomy 11:18 Fix these words of mine in your hearts and minds;
tie them as reminders on your hands and bind them on your foreheads.

Deuteronomy 6:5-8 ~ Love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength. These commandments that I give you today are to be on your hearts. Impress them on your children. Talk about them when you sit at home and when you walk along the road, when you lie down and when you get up. Tie them as symbols on your hands and bind them on your foreheads.

Hebrews 10:16 ~ “This is the covenant I will make with them after those days,
declares the Lord. I will put My laws in their hearts and inscribe them on their minds.”


Satan trying to counterfeit God's plan? Yeah, nothing new there...

:)
 

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I believe the mark is meant to be symbolic of to Whom we have pledged our allegiance.
I agree that over the last 2,000 years we have many who have pledged their allegiance to the Lord, and many who have only been Christian in name only, and still others who sold their soul to Satan.

I think the Mark of the Beast brings this choice to the surface and makes it urgent because time is up. Choose this day who you will serve.
 

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I agree that over the last 2,000 years we have many who have pledged their allegiance to the Lord, and many who have only been Christian in name only, and still others who sold their soul to Satan.

I think the Mark of the Beast brings this choice to the surface and makes it urgent because time is up. Choose this day who you will serve.
It is asinine to directly associate getting the vaccine with renouncing our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
 

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It is asinine to directly associate getting the vaccine with renouncing our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
At the moment, but once people are faced with the choice of worship the Beast or get your head chopped off it won't be.

We are on a road and to not tell people where this road leads, that is asinine.

We have been told repeatedly that the world lies in the Evil one, that trusting in the worldly system is like trusting in a snake, and that the world has been condemned. It is a condemned building. At some point the Lord sends forth the word "come out of her my people".

We are also told that if you build up your Christian life with wood, hay and stubble that it will all go up in flames. Is your concern about "coming out of her my people" is it that your work will go up in flames and you will lose everything? That is not good. Or is your attitude that you are a servant of the Lord Jesus and where He leads there I go?
 

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At the moment, but once people are faced with the choice of worship the Beast or get your head chopped off it won't be.

We are on a road and to not tell people where this road leads, that is asinine.

We have been told repeatedly that the world lies in the Evil one, that trusting in the worldly system is like trusting in a snake, and that the world has been condemned. It is a condemned building. At some point the Lord sends forth the word "come out of her my people".

We are also told that if you build up your Christian life with wood, hay and stubble that it will all go up in flames. Is your concern about "coming out of her my people" is it that your work will go up in flames and you will lose everything? That is not good. Or is your attitude that you are a servant of the Lord Jesus and where He leads there I go?
I already said: Satan counterfeits the plans of God. Those counterfeits have apparently deceived many, who now go about spreading hysteria by telling vulnerable minds that to receive the vaccine damns them to hell. It's shameful. Making jokes about it cannot change that fact.
 

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I already said: Satan counterfeits the plans of God. Those counterfeits have apparently deceived many, who now go about spreading hysteria by telling vulnerable minds that to receive the vaccine damns them to hell. It's shameful. Making jokes about it cannot change that fact.
My point of saying I was joking was concerning the point that people who shout down those warning concerning the vaccine mandate being the mark of the beast is that they are hanging everything on the fact that there is no mark on their right hand. Think how idiotic that is, how difficult will it be for them tomorrow to say "you know instead of giving people papers wouldn't it just be easier to put a mark on their hand".

No one is threatening to chop off your head, yet. There is no clear choice to worship the beast or worship the Lord, yet. However, they are very clearly ostracizing those who don't get the vaccine, they are clearly making a law that you cannot buy or sell, and when you try and enter the stores enforcing the law you see everyone holding their phone in their right hand to show the guard. Everything about this shouts sorcery, lies, and deceit.

I chose not to get the vaccine long before I had any idea there was a spiritual reason to reject it. So no doubt, many got the vaccine without the slightest thought that this was pledging their allegiance. Anyone suggesting that getting that shot has any bearing on their salvation is clearly misguided and spreading hysteria.

However, I realized quite quickly that the hysteria about everyone needing to get the vaccine was completely misguided. Their claim to be "following the science" was a lie or else they were deceived. I am a science teacher and was particularly offended when Fauci said that questioning him was questioning science.

We have had people on this forum being very obnoxious about the vaccine long before we had the evidence and I don't think that was helpful. That goes both ways, those pushing it and those saying it was the MOTB. However, I read the posts from both sides. It did not take long for me to realize there is something very wrong about this vaccine and about the mandate. I live in NYC and when the mayor mandated it for teachers I called my union within 24 hour to inquire about the process by which I should resign which I did. Even at that point I didn't have any thought to equate it with the MOTB but on the other hand I knew in my spirit something was rotten in Denmark and I was not going to get it and therefore I would resign before the mandate went into effect.

I have been surrounded by people telling me that you should fight this in the court, that the constitution supports you, etc. But by this point I began to realize something is rotten and this corruption includes the courts and that is the fact. I was in a rally with a bunch of teachers when the announced the court decided not to hear their appeal. I had already resigned, I had already determined this would be the case, but many there were upset, angry, like little petulant children saying they would "burn the city down".

This is a spiritual warfare. The proper response is to always express Jesus. If someone doesn't want me in their city then shake off the dust and go to the next city and keep preaching the gospel till the Lord comes.

My wife has struggled much more than me with her decision to resign but today she sent in her resignation letter and said it made her feel much lighter and full of joy.
 

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If we were in Nazi Germany when they were making the Jews wear the star of David you could say that this was according to the pattern of the mark of the beast and it was and it meant they were marked out for slaughter. You would have been censored on German press, and the Jews would have attacked and ridiculed you though when they were forced to move to the Ghetto they might have started to have second thoughts and when they were put on trains many more would have had that very bad feeling. Still many who went to the camps actually thought the Germans valued them for their labor and whatever they produced. They didn't realize that killing 6 million is a lot of work and it takes time, you can't kill them all on day 1.

However, that was the photographic negative, this time it will be those who don't have the mark that are marked out for slaughter.
 

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4 They traveled from Mount Hor along the route to the Red Sea,[c] to go around Edom. But the people grew impatient on the way; 5 they spoke against God and against Moses, and said, “Why have you brought us up out of Egypt to die in the wilderness? There is no bread! There is no water! And we detest this miserable food!”

What is the apostasy but God's people withdrawing from the word of God. The word of God is our bread and our water, and yet they would prefer to watch Hollywood movies, go to Disney world rather than a church meeting, and listen to satanic music rather than worship music.


6 Then the Lord sent venomous snakes among them; they bit the people and many Israelites died. 7 The people came to Moses and said, “We sinned when we spoke against the Lord and against you. Pray that the Lord will take the snakes away from us.” So Moses prayed for the people.

So we have a plandemic that has struck us concocted by sorcerers who are also FreeMasons (those who worship Satan and are involved in witchcraft). Now surprise, surprise the same people who made a bioweapon and released it on the earth are the same ones who made the "cure". The disease was simply designed to motivate everyone in the world to get the "cure". This vaccine is like being bitten by a poisonous snake. They sold it as a "vaccine" and people understood that would mean you would be immune, but instead you need a second shot and then a booster shot, and it appears you will need shots every six months. Some people have very serious adverse reactions to this shot, the second time you will also risk adverse reactions, and likewise with the third, the fourth, etc. How do you get rid of these snakes? Only one way, pray.

8 The Lord said to Moses, “Make a snake and put it up on a pole; anyone who is bitten can look at it and live.” 9 So Moses made a bronze snake and put it up on a pole. Then when anyone was bitten by a snake and looked at the bronze snake, they lived.

I suspect that this vaccine will be required worldwide. Initially they will give people passports but because some will forge these they will justify injecting the "vaccine passport" into you so that it is part of your hand. However, you won't have to get this because the church will be able to cast this demon out. The purpose of the vaccine becoming the mark of the beast is to turn the Lord's people back to Him so that they look on Jesus while at the same time exposing how evil the pagan world is.
 

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1. First, they claim that if you don't have the MOTB you can't buy or sell, and the greek word for buy actually means to enter into the marketplace. So let me look into what they have here. Hmmm, OK they give a few examples of places where this law has already gone into effect: Lithuania and some city in New Zealand. OK, let's skip this point.

2. Second they claim that the number of the copyright for this technology is 666, actually the number is 060606, OK, let's skip this point.

3. Third they say that this "vaccine" is made from aborted fetuses, the blood of innocents. OK, let's check to see what right wing nut is saying this. OK, let's skip this point.

4. Fourth they talk about it being composed of something called Luciferase. OK, let's skip this point.

5. Fifth, they point out that Fauci is a member of the Freemasons which practice witchcraft and sorcery. So let's see what evidence they have for this! OK, let's skip this point.

6. Sixth, they say that this "pandemic" is really a "plandemic" and that it is part of the "great delusion". OK, let's see what evidence they have on this! (Fauci lied, Phony scientific studies, originated in Wuhan, yada, yada, yada). OK, let's skip this point.

7. Seventh, they are saying they inflated the numbers of dead from Covid19 and they are hiding the data on the adverse reactions to the vaccine. C'mon man, the the scope of this paranoid conspiracy is off the hook, what is this 'the great lie"? Hmmm, OK, let's skip this point.

8. They say that the MOTB is used to hold all of your personal data that the government can track and this system is currently being tested in Africa by the Bill Gates foundation. Hmmm, OK, let's skip this point.

9. The MOTB is in the right hand! Ha! You see that they don't inject this in your right hand! Case closed!
The whole anti vax conspiracy is a smokescreen. If you have a smartphone, you are being tracked. If you are on the internet, you are being tracked. Your banking can be tracked, your travel is tracked. You have a car? The number plate can be scanned to track your movements. Security cameras are everywhere and facial recognition software is improving all the time. People voluntarily give up personal information on facebook and such. If you pay by credit or debit card, your transactions are known to the business.

The vaccine itself is nothing. The regulations around the vaccine are nothing. People already have to have security clearances for various jobs, wear ID cards and so on. Meanwhile people are happily giving up privacy so they can have a social media account.

I have no social media account, I pay by cash mostly and I have anti tracking software on my computer. It's not much but better than nothing. And Christians of all people should not live in fear of what is going on. It's confirmation that the Kingdom of God is close than when we first believed. The only alternative is to run away and hide.