THE SNARE OF SELF-RIGHTEOUSNESS

  • Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.

    If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!

    To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.

awelight

Well-known member
Aug 10, 2020
1,629
490
83
69
#1
THE SNARE OF SELF-RIGHTEOUSNESS.

There are many ways to speak about the subject of self-righteousness from the Scriptures. The religious Jews of Christ's day were full of Self-righteousness. Job had some self-righteousness that needed to be worked out of him and indeed, all believers have some self-righteousness still in them. We may be guilty of thinking more highly of ourselves than we ought. (Rom. 12:3)

We know that Scripture teaches, that as believers, we must wholly lean on the Righteousness of Jesus Christ. WE must be clothed in His Righteousness to cover the lack of our own true righteousness before God. Mankind's righteousness, subsequent to the fall, is seen by God as filthy rags:
Isa. 64:6 For we are all become as one that is unclean, and all our righteousnesses are as a polluted garment: and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, take us away.

By God's Grace, true believers are made righteous by the Person and Work of Jesus Christ. His Righteousness, as worked out upon the cross, is imputed to the believer's account. This does not make us self-righteous but enables us to do righteous acts before God and men. Those in the Faith will do righteous works. This is promised in the Scriptures:
Eph. 2:8-10 for by grace have ye been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; not of works, that no man should glory. For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God afore prepared that we should walk in them. According to James' Epistle, one who claims to have faith but does not demonstrate righteous works, only posses a dead faith and a form of self-righteousness. James 2:26 For as the body apart from the spirit is dead, even so faith apart from works is dead.

However, this type of self-righteousness is not the topic of my discussion. My topic, explores the error of believers thinking they should be more righteous in light of their sins. Becoming caught in the snare of anxiety and doubt because of sin. What do I mean by this?

Have you ever looked at your sinful life and asked yourself: "Is it possible that one who is truly saved can sin like this?" -- "Shouldn't a believer be more righteous?" If you have, then you have been snared by the error of Self-righteousness. You are looking upon your own righteousness, rather than upon your Righteous Savior. Looking erroneously in ourselves will lead to anxiety, doubt and loss of joy. You MUST keep your eyes fixed upon the Lord and upon the things above.

By God's Grace, He has given the believer a tender conscience and that conscience weighs in when the believer commits sin. It brings the believer to his/her knees and before the Mercy Seat of the Lord. There, one seeks forgiveness of sin - whether it be in thought or in deed. We must seek forgiveness of our sins everyday, (1 John 1:9) but we must not let the pain of sin cause us to think we should be more self-righteous. As said earlier, any righteous thoughts, any righteous deeds that we may have or do, is by the Grace of God and the Righteousness of His dear Son worked out for the Saints.

As a Christian matures, in knowledge of God and His purpose - the Christian matures in knowing his/her faults and wretched condition apart from God's Grace and even could be said, with God's Grace. Any good in us, as believers, is by God's doing and not our own. (1 Cor. 15:10). Therefore, in ourselves, we possess no righteousness that would be acceptable to God. We are constituted righteous because we are hidden in Christ. So let not sin make you think you should be more righteous because apart from the savior you have no righteousness. Are we called to pursue righteousness? Of course we are. Christians should pursue a life of righteousness everyday of their temporal existence. So why are my sins causing me such doubts? Stay with me here. Maturity of the Christian brings another realization before his/her eyes. The realization that sin is increasing in their lives.

What!! Does not Scripture say that we should be bringing sin under control? Should not sin, in my life, be going down and not up?

As one matures as a believer, individual sin will be more often defeated. However, as one matures and gets ever closer to God, that one gets closer to His Holiness. For God is described as being thrice Holy, (Isa. 6:3). The closer a believer gets to the Holy God, the more sin that one will see in his/her life. The believer is not truly becoming more sinful but is seeing more of the sin as God sees it. When you were a babe in Christ, you probably only recognized the major sins of the Law - like: Lies, stealing, murder, improper desires or hate but as one matures and grows in Truth and Grace, that one begins to see sins that were always there but were not seen as sin. Let me give you an example:

In these passages of Scripture, we are told to think upon and talk about the things of God from sun up to sun down:
Deu. 6:5-9 and thou shalt love Jehovah thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might. And these words, which I command thee this day, shall be upon thy heart; and thou shalt teach them diligently unto thy children, and shalt talk of them when thou sittest in thy house, and when thou walkest by the way, and when thou liest down, and when thou risest up. And thou shalt bind them for a sign upon thy hand, and they shall be for frontlets between thine eyes. And thou shalt write them upon the door-posts of thy house, and upon thy gates.
This same thing can be found in the New Testament: Eph. 5:16 redeeming the time, because the days are evil. Both of these texts, speak of not wasting time. If a believer, is wasting time, on things not of God - it would be constituted as a sin because we are commanded not too. A mature Christian begins to see these kinds of sin and there are many, many more.

It is in this way, true believers can begin to feel anxiety and doubt about their standing before God. Concerned we are falling short in our war against sin and we are but believing we should be able to do better. As we continue to mature, we will see even more of our sins. However, do not fall into the self-righteousness trap. You have all the righteousness and forgiveness you will ever need in Jesus Christ. Instead, strive against sin by putting on the Whole Armor of God and keeping your eyes firmly affixed upon Jesus Christ and praying constantly for more mercy, more compassion and more forgiveness. Lay hold of the joy that has been given to all in the faith and be assured that Christ will carry us all the way.
 

Nehemiah6

Senior Member
Jul 18, 2017
26,074
13,778
113
#3
Have you ever looked at your sinful life and asked yourself: "Is it possible that one who is truly saved can sin like this?" -- "Shouldn't a believer be more righteous?" If you have, then you have been snared by the error of Self-righteousness.
How can that be the snare of the error of self-righteousness? God demands that His children be as holy as He is. So a believer should be growing in practical righteousness. That is NOT self-righteousness by a long shot. The ones who are self-righteous believe mistakenly that they can be justified by their own good works.
 

arthurfleminger

Well-known member
Aug 18, 2021
1,405
780
113
#4
We need to look at ourselves, as professors of the fundamentalist credo to find that we are guilty of self righteousness. Our fundamental beliefs have led to the most anti-Christian hatefulness. Christ never taught hatefulness. Yet our founders taught hatefulness and bigotry toward the black race and other non-white races. Our founding fathers of fundamentalism were racist in every sense of the word. Fundamentalism and Racism. The backbone of the typical American… | by James Peron | The Radical Center | Medium

Fundamentalists brought about hatred and segregation for blacks and other non whites in the South for many years, attributing this to God's will. Fundamentalism is religious racism - Church of the Churchless (blogs.com)

Fundamental Protestantism has not followed Christ's teaching of love of neighbors, instead it taught hatred of those different from you.
 

arthurfleminger

Well-known member
Aug 18, 2021
1,405
780
113
#5
Fundamentalists were responsible for much of the race hating in the South in the 1900's and for segregation. Blacks weren't even allowed to worship in the same churches of the Fundamentalists nor even be buried in the same grave yards. Fundamentalists had no love of others contrary to God's love of neighbor. So many lynching's so much hatred to our black brothers and sisters from the Fundamentalists. And, make no mistake, the Fundamentalists were the root cause of this hatred and hatred has nothing to do with Christ and His teachings.
 

p_rehbein

Senior Member
Sep 4, 2013
30,741
6,906
113
#6
We need to look at ourselves, as professors of the fundamentalist credo to find that we are guilty of self righteousness. Our fundamental beliefs have led to the most anti-Christian hatefulness. Christ never taught hatefulness. Yet our founders taught hatefulness and bigotry toward the black race and other non-white races. Our founding fathers of fundamentalism were racist in every sense of the word. Fundamentalism and Racism. The backbone of the typical American… | by James Peron | The Radical Center | Medium

Fundamentalists brought about hatred and segregation for blacks and other non whites in the South for many years, attributing this to God's will. Fundamentalism is religious racism - Church of the Churchless (blogs.com)

Fundamental Protestantism has not followed Christ's teaching of love of neighbors, instead it taught hatred of those different from you.
IF Fundamentalism is your cup of tea, well, that is on you. As for it being the "backbone" of the typical American, BULL....... As for it being the main belief of the Christians in todays Church...... BULL........

any person who is filled with racist hatred IS NOT A CHRISTIAN! So please refrain from identifying them as such......
 

awelight

Well-known member
Aug 10, 2020
1,629
490
83
69
#7
How can that be the snare of the error of self-righteousness? God demands that His children be as holy as He is. So a believer should be growing in practical righteousness. That is NOT self-righteousness by a long shot. The ones who are self-righteous believe mistakenly that they can be justified by their own good works.
I would suggest that you did not read this post clearly and slowly. Howbeit, a lot was said in a short amount of space.

I stated that we are called to pursue righteousness. This means to grow in the righteousness provided by God and do righteous deeds. The implication of self-righteousness, as it related to the question of sin, was in believing that we should possess, within ourselves, a greater personal righteousness and thus, prevent sin.

Salvation does not instantly make a person more righteous and it does not improve our own self-righteousness. Indeed, our Self-righteousness most be purged in order to make room, in our conscience, to the righteousness provided by God. It is this that was in view. In other words, borrowing from your statement - The ones who are self-righteous believe they should be better than they are, when it comes to sin. This self-righteous trap, leads one to think they can overcome sin in their life by their own righteousness and power.

By God's Grace, we strive against sin but Scripture clearly states, that on our own we cannot defeat sin. The victory is in Christ and not our own sense of righteousness. If we cut ourselves free of any notion of our own righteousness and except that sin will be with us to the end of our temporal existence, then and only then can we see clearly the need of the righteousness given to us in Christ.

Our sins blur and obscure this vision. Sin raises doubts about our self worth and our worth to the cause of Christ. This should not be because we had nothing to bring to the table to begin with. Therefore, it must be our own erroneous view of our self-righteousness that is causing the problem. God knew all of our sins before we were ever born. He saved us while we were yet sinners. So we should not allow sin to trap us into wrongful thinking.

The question is not about whether we are growing in practical righteousness - if you are a believer - you are. The question is are you growing to see your sins as God sees them. If you are, then you are hating yourself more and more everyday. You are desiring more and more everyday to be delivered from this sinful and corruptible flesh. You are learning more and more everyday, how useless your own self-righteousness is.

Hope that helps clarify.
 

Cabrillo

Active member
Sep 6, 2021
420
221
43
#8
How can that be the snare of the error of self-righteousness? God demands that His children be as holy as He is. So a believer should be growing in practical righteousness. That is NOT self-righteousness by a long shot. The ones who are self-righteous believe mistakenly that they can be justified by their own good works.
Self righteousness is an oxymoron because there's nothing selfish about righteous about selfishness. Righteousness is not about self. in regards to righteousness it's having the correct attitude and how we treat as we respond towards others.

You're talking about Holiness and or remaining pure or consecrated. In order to perform the Lord's will without blemish.

Being holy
Being holy means being set apart for God. It can be used for objects (a holy altar), time (a holy day), or persons (a holy priest). All believers are set apart for God, and are therefore made holy (or sanctified, which has the same meaning). We see this for example in 1 Corinthians 6:11: “But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.”
(CO; https://www.biblword.net/)
 

arthurfleminger

Well-known member
Aug 18, 2021
1,405
780
113
#9
IF Fundamentalism is your cup of tea, well, that is on you. As for it being the "backbone" of the typical American, BULL....... As for it being the main belief of the Christians in todays Church...... BULL........

any person who is filled with racist hatred IS NOT A CHRISTIAN! So please refrain from identifying them as such......
Whether we like it or not, our fundamentalism beliefs of 'The Literal Word' of Scripture has led the Fundamentalist faction of believers down the path of hatred and discrimination toward others, toward blacks, Jews, Catholica and all others who don't share our own particular doctrines/tenets/beliefs. We fundamentalists have show nothing but hatred and bigotry toward our brothers and sisters, God's children all. If you you don't believe me, examines the history of Christian Fundamentalism.
 

Nehemiah6

Senior Member
Jul 18, 2017
26,074
13,778
113
#10
Yet our founders taught hatefulness and bigotry toward the black race and other non-white races. Our founding fathers of fundamentalism were racist in every sense of the word.
Looks like you have swallowed the Critical Race Theory agenda totally. While white racism was on the decline in recent years, Barack Obama made sure black racism would have its day. And now through Biden he has made sure that black racism will prevail, and whites will be too cowardly to stand up to this nonsense. There are also other colors of racism but that's a different issue.
 

Nehemiah6

Senior Member
Jul 18, 2017
26,074
13,778
113
#11
The implication of self-righteousness, as it related to the question of sin, was in believing that we should possess, within ourselves, a greater personal righteousness and thus, prevent sin.
Since Christians possess the indwelling Holy Spirit "within ourselves", why are you raising a straw man argument? Christians depend on the Holy Spirt to enable them to be righteous. And this does indeed "prevent" sin. So what's your beef?
 

arthurfleminger

Well-known member
Aug 18, 2021
1,405
780
113
#12
Looks like you have swallowed the Critical Race Theory agenda totally. While white racism was on the decline in recent years, Barack Obama made sure black racism would have its day. And now through Biden he has made sure that black racism will prevail, and whites will be too cowardly to stand up to this nonsense. There are also other colors of racism but that's a different issue.
I am not a believer in the 'Critical Race Theory' at all. But it's a face that 'Christian Fundamentalism' has let to hatred of Blacks/Jews/Catholics/Muslims. And Jesus never taught hatred or disdain for anyone.

Apparantly you are ignorant of the Fundamentalist preachings/actions toward these groups of peoples. Bone up on your history and find out the truth before you you post in your ignorance of the Fundamentalist preachings and histories of their hatreds toward others.
 

Cabrillo

Active member
Sep 6, 2021
420
221
43
#13
Whether we like it or not, our fundamentalism beliefs of 'The Literal Word' of Scripture has led the Fundamentalist faction of believers down the path of hatred and discrimination toward others, toward blacks, Jews, Catholica and all others who don't share our own particular doctrines/tenets/beliefs. We fundamentalists have show nothing but hatred and bigotry toward our brothers and sisters, God's children all. If you you don't believe me, examines the history of Christian Fundamentalism.
The irony is that the fundamentalists of differing factions discriminate each other most of all!
 

justbyfaith

Well-known member
Sep 16, 2021
4,707
462
83
#14
The righteousness of Jesus is not only imputed to us but is also imparted (1 John 3:7, Romans 5:19, Matthew 5:6, Matthew 5:20)...it is a practical thing in our lives (1 John 3:17-18).
 

Nehemiah6

Senior Member
Jul 18, 2017
26,074
13,778
113
#15
Bone up on your history and find out the truth before you you post in your ignorance of the Fundamentalist preachings and histories of their hatreds toward others.
Looks like you are promoting hatred of Christian fundamentalists. So where does that leave you?
 

Nehemiah6

Senior Member
Jul 18, 2017
26,074
13,778
113
#16
Righteousness is not about self.
Who do you think righteousness is about if not Christians? Adding "self" to it is simply to create a straw man. God demands righteousness from His people. Period.
 
Jan 14, 2021
1,599
526
113
#17
I am not a believer in the 'Critical Race Theory' at all. But it's a face that 'Christian Fundamentalism' has let to hatred of Blacks/Jews/Catholics/Muslims. And Jesus never taught hatred or disdain for anyone.

Apparantly you are ignorant of the Fundamentalist preachings/actions toward these groups of peoples. Bone up on your history and find out the truth before you you post in your ignorance of the Fundamentalist preachings and histories of their hatreds toward others.
Interesting.

How are you defining Christian fundamentalism?
 

arthurfleminger

Well-known member
Aug 18, 2021
1,405
780
113
#18
Interesting.

How are you defining Christian fundamentalism?
I define it as a Christian and political movement that began in the South and moved across the 'Bible Belt'. They claim strict adherence to only literal interpretation to the Word of God in the Bible. However they made, and are still making, the same mistake as the Pharisees made during Jesus' time on earth. Their heart is far from God. Examine this info on Christian Fundamentalism in our country: christian fundamentalists led the segregation movement - Bing
 

Nehemiah6

Senior Member
Jul 18, 2017
26,074
13,778
113
#19
Examine this info on Christian Fundamentalism in our country: christian fundamentalists led the segregation movement - Bing
With all the Fake News and gaslighting today, you might want to do some more research. Do not equate Christians with the KKK and do not equate patriots with domestic terrorists. Everything is being turned on its head today.

And while you're at it check out black racism in America, the Black Panthers and the Black Muslim. The answer to white racism is definitely not black racism, which is now being established and entrenched in the government of the United States through Critical Race Theory and the 1619 Project (which is totally bogus). Add to that all the Wokeism, and what we are seeing is a movement to establish black supremacy in America (at the expense of all other races).
 

Nehemiah6

Senior Member
Jul 18, 2017
26,074
13,778
113
#20
Do you see how black racism is corrupting America?

"Liz Warren started a trend.
A recent Intelligent.com survey found that 34% of white Americans who applied to colleges or universities admit to lying about being a racial minority on their applications. They knew if they lied about their race they had a better chance to gain entry to the college of their choice."

https://www.intelligent.com/34-of-w...-chances-of-admission-financial-aid-benefits/