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ZNP

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Homeschool your kids

It is very easy to do up through 8th grade. I homeschooled my 3 kids. You go to the library on the weekend and you get enough books for the entire week. When they are first learning to read it might by 20 books, later as they get up to Stuart Little and Charlotte's Web it is five books a week, then by sixth grade to 8th grade it might even get to one book a week (about a hundred pages a day).

Reading books is how I teach English and History. Science is done with both books and these science videos they also have at the library. The kids watch the movie while they eat lunch so they see one movie a day. There are many very good ones.

Math has excellent interactive computer programs that take you all the way through algebra.

One motivation to the kids to read the books is that when they finish the book they can see the movie. Keep a list of all the books your kids read and you will be stunned it will be hundreds.

Gym was Karate class, two of my kids became black belts.

Music was violin class. All three learned to play the violin.

You can also get books on tape which will help their listening comprehension and also help you to do a better job with scheduling the day.

Geography class the Where's Waldo computer game, it was great at helping the kids become familiar with cities and countries all over the world, what they looked like, where they were on a map, and what the main industries were.

The amazing world of goo is a great engineering problem game to help them with critical thinking skills.
 
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Godsgirl83

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One motivation to the kids to read the books is that when they finish the book they can see the movie. Keep a list of all the books your kids read and you will be stunned it will be hundreds.
Pizza Hut still does the BOOK IT! program where the teacher sets the reading goals, records/reports them & the student earns a certificate for a free personal pan pizza. The program is offered to homeschoolers too.

https://www.bookitprogram.com/programs/book-it-homeschool

I saw something for Panda Express for similar, to earn free kids meal, though couldn't find the link on the website. I emailed the company about it, but still couldn't find a link, so don't know 100% on that one.


A local gas station chain here also has a reading program, which inspired me to search for more online.
There are a lot of places where it is not openly advertised, but if you search and ask around can find local places that offer reading reward/incentive programs for homeschooling children/families.
 
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I am a public school teacher. I can say that most teachers would say they're not trying to indoctrinate kids, they're just trying to show all the options and include anyone. In my eyes this goes back to the idea that we are a Christian nation, and Christian nations do not have to say "anything goes" and the like. So it's through the act of saying "oh, it's okay, we're just being open" that the indoctrination starts. And the indoctrination is real. I know very few conservative public school teachers. I've worked hard to be more pro-America in my teaching, and I'm considering leaving the public sector for a Christian school.
 

ZNP

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I am a public school teacher. I can say that most teachers would say they're not trying to indoctrinate kids, they're just trying to show all the options and include anyone. In my eyes this goes back to the idea that we are a Christian nation, and Christian nations do not have to say "anything goes" and the like. So it's through the act of saying "oh, it's okay, we're just being open" that the indoctrination starts. And the indoctrination is real. I know very few conservative public school teachers. I've worked hard to be more pro-America in my teaching, and I'm considering leaving the public sector for a Christian school.
I was a public school teacher in NYC, high school, retired this year because of the vaccine mandate. I saw this creeping indoctrination. Posters about affirming LGBTQ, struggle sessions for every teacher accusing them of being inherently biased, principles forcing teachers to lower standards and pass kids, every year I would have kids come to me the last two weeks of the semester asking "what can I do to pass" -- from day 1 I tell the kids that I take late work, there is no penalty, but that is not what they mean. What they have learned from other teachers is they can ignore everything for the whole semester and then get some lame "project" that gives them credit for the whole semester. I shared my classroom with a social studies teacher and was alarmed to hear the extreme teaching on racism, not historical, not civil rights movement but currently. The country was portrayed as a racist country that tilts the tables against blacks and favors whites. Any failure, any job you didn't get, any college that turned you down is evidence of this hidden racism to keep you down.

Listening to this I realized I needed to share personal testimonies (my uncle's house was bombed by the KKK in the 60s in Jackson MS and he was white). I have several experiences in my life that to me seem very hard to believe and yet that was the thing that none of the students could believe so I had to put up newspaper articles about the bombing with my uncle's picture sitting in front of his bombed out house.

I was a science teacher so I didn't teach CRT anywhere in my curriculum and yet I saw it. We are judged based on our data and you can pull the test results of all the schools in NYC. I would go into great detail with this database so other teachers came to me to help them with their folder when they apply for tenure. However, these teachers didn't want to look at their results in a head to head contest with the other schools, no they wanted to sift the data according to "demographics". I consider this racist. Our school is almost exclusively black and brown with a very high percentage of free lunch. It was always my goal that we could compete with the best schools in the city regardless of any of that demographic garbage. My students did, we scored in the top 6% of schools citywide despite these students entering the high school around the 50% level. But when you sort out schools with similar demographics to us all those schools are in the bottom 25%. To me it was obviously bad teachers justifying their bad performance by blaming the demographics, that is racist. Comparing yourself to these failed schools is foolish.
 

ZNP

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For teachers I learned a lesson. I would grade my kids on a curve so that if you had a 55% average you would see a passing grade on the report card (65%). I do this because this is the law for SPED kids, by doing this for everyone I felt it was fair and I would never make a mistake with a SPED kid (terrible to accidentally fail a SPED kid and then be dragged in before the Principal). However, I never told anyone, and to get an 80% or higher it was a straight average, so the curve was just from 65% to 80%. But here is the beauty, if a kid complains why did you fail me? They thought they were close enough that the principal would make an exception (and she would have). I would go into that meeting with the straight numbers so instead of being close to a 65 the kids real average was around a 50. I would show all the test scores, HW, etc. It would be embarrassing for the kid. As a teacher you need to learn how to deal with the pressure they put on you to drop standards. Principals will force teachers everywhere to pass failing kids and as a result it becomes harder and harder to get kids to treat the class seriously.
 
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Really well-said. I hear you 100%. I think people are just waking up to this, including, and perhaps especially, teachers.

I was a public school teacher in NYC, high school, retired this year because of the vaccine mandate. I saw this creeping indoctrination. Posters about affirming LGBTQ, struggle sessions for every teacher accusing them of being inherently biased, principles forcing teachers to lower standards and pass kids, every year I would have kids come to me the last two weeks of the semester asking "what can I do to pass" -- from day 1 I tell the kids that I take late work, there is no penalty, but that is not what they mean. What they have learned from other teachers is they can ignore everything for the whole semester and then get some lame "project" that gives them credit for the whole semester. I shared my classroom with a social studies teacher and was alarmed to hear the extreme teaching on racism, not historical, not civil rights movement but currently. The country was portrayed as a racist country that tilts the tables against blacks and favors whites. Any failure, any job you didn't get, any college that turned you down is evidence of this hidden racism to keep you down.

Listening to this I realized I needed to share personal testimonies (my uncle's house was bombed by the KKK in the 60s in Jackson MS and he was white). I have several experiences in my life that to me seem very hard to believe and yet that was the thing that none of the students could believe so I had to put up newspaper articles about the bombing with my uncle's picture sitting in front of his bombed out house.

I was a science teacher so I didn't teach CRT anywhere in my curriculum and yet I saw it. We are judged based on our data and you can pull the test results of all the schools in NYC. I would go into great detail with this database so other teachers came to me to help them with their folder when they apply for tenure. However, these teachers didn't want to look at their results in a head to head contest with the other schools, no they wanted to sift the data according to "demographics". I consider this racist. Our school is almost exclusively black and brown with a very high percentage of free lunch. It was always my goal that we could compete with the best schools in the city regardless of any of that demographic garbage. My students did, we scored in the top 6% of schools citywide despite these students entering the high school around the 50% level. But when you sort out schools with similar demographics to us all those schools are in the bottom 25%. To me it was obviously bad teachers justifying their bad performance by blaming the demographics, that is racist. Comparing yourself to these failed schools is foolish.
 

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It's a slow process like boiling a frog to death and they don't even know it's coming. I am personally seeing the indoctrination in every area of life little kids see a rainbow and the pretty colors and it is easy to get them to float in whatever direction you want.
 

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I see it as another reason fascists want to erase history. As has been the case for the longest.

Erase history, rewrite according to the contemporary PC narrative.

The old generation that remembers that true history is died or dying off, and more quickly now due to the viral genocide of Wuhan. So, they won't be a factor that stands to revive the true memories of the past events.

While the 20 something's and up generation have already been indoctrinated into the PC culture of late 20th century.
So that their children today in the second decade of the new 21st century are indoctrinated by our government into the new PC culture. And that is reiterated by their parents who were the progenators of that conformity.

We're merely witnessing a repeat of history. Erased or not, it's there until we learn not to let it happen again.

We're currently being led into a rationing model.

The news reported yesterday here there are 70,000 truck driver vacancies in America.
Not enough trucks to supply consumer demand for food, and other goods.
At least 71% of consumable goods in America are trucked.

Think about what we won't have if this gets worse.

No fuels. Gasoline, heating oil, propane.

No food. Walk into a grocer, even a super WalMart. All those empty shelves shows how dependant we are on others to feed us if we don't have our own garden, or canned food supply.

And with the lack of truck drivers, with gas prices rising because Biden is insuring we're no longer energy independent, everything that is available is going to sell at a premium.

I bought a premade food item last month for $3.44.
Went to restock this past Monday. That same item was now $6.88.

We're making more money starting with minimum wage on up. But we're paying more for everything. It's always happened like that.
The more you make the less you have.

Our government public schools dumb down our kids. Because if we cultivated a strong intellect as a whole, we'd realize what's going on.

Even private schools are no refuge from the government agenda. Because if they receive any government assistance, even charter schools, they have to play ball.

It'll remain that way due to complacency. And fear on our part. Since the slaves outnumber their masters, if we did organize into rebellion they'd never stand a chance.

They know that. That's why they scare us, save us, and do it all over again.

"Leadership".
Right straight to the shackles.
 

montana123

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Keep this video in mind, next time you're thinking how great you are for being "tolerant". They want your children. That was their objective from the start.
The children are the future for however they are taught will be the way it is in the future.

Which their kingdom to come is rebellion against God and His ways and self exalting as they believe they are still evolving to be spiritual and there is no personal God.

That is why they took prayer out of school and started teaching evolution although they will say it is for a different reason which they liked like teaching evolution and also to stop prayer in school and not acknowledge God.

They loved the counterculture movement and the rebelliousness of it which they want children to exalt themselves and go against parents for their kingdom can only come about with a world of people that are rebellious exalting themselves.

What is going on is the new age movement for they are the future and the New Age Christ will be of the new age movement.

When he establishes peace in the Middle East he will push the agenda of the new age movement until the world rebels against God.

They are not saying that meditation in the classroom is good for the children.

Which I seen pictures of grade school children meditating on top of the desk the new age style or the occult style.

The new age movement is the beginning of the end and why the world rebels against God so they have to affect the children with it as well as anybody that goes along with them.

1Ti 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
1Ti 4:2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
1Ti 4:3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
1Ti 4:4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:
1Ti 4:5 For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.

God warns the saints of the new age movement, and their interpretation of the Bible based on the occult, and evolution, and people are still evolving to be spiritual provided by the New Age Christ, and Jesus is not Lord and Savior, but a good teacher and love, and the Christ conscience came upon him, and he evolved to be an ascended master, and believe in no personal God, but honor the God of forces, or the power of nature as their higher power, the evolutionary process, and the New Age Christ is the final teacher, and he will evolve to be greater than Jesus, and share this power with all people who follow him.

They will forbid to marry for a man and a woman for population reduction which is a big reason they like to push homosexuality even teaching children that it is alright, and command to abstain from meats, reverence of nature, mother earth.

The new age movement will pave the way to the beast kingdom for all people who do not love God where they will take the mark of the beast, and then repentance and salvation are no longer available to the world, and God will end sin on earth, and have His people will Him.

2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables(2 Timothy 4:2-4).

The time will come when the world will not want to hear the truth of the Bible, but want to hear it according to their own lusts the new age movement.

They are trying to convert the children slowly to the new age movement.

Paul Revere- The British are coming, the British are coming.

Me- The occult is coming, the occult is coming.
 
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They'll indoctrinate your children to be proud of sin. They aren't even trying to hide it anymore.
Why fret over it? If you do that to which you are to raise your children in the word of God
then they will not ever be effected by any of it. The only ones who will lose their children to it
are them who did not do what was right by them. You reap what you sow.
 
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Why fret over it? If you do that to which you are to raise your children in the word of God
then they will not ever be effected by any of it. The only ones who will lose their children to it
are them who did not do what was right by them. You reap what you sow.
This is ridiculous. Utterly ridiculous. Unless you take your family and move up to a cabin in the Yukon, then you're going to be affected by it. You reap what you sow, but what you reap is also affected by what those around you sow. It's not like we each live in a bubble.
 
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This is ridiculous. Utterly ridiculous. Unless you take your family and move up to a cabin in the Yukon, then you're going to be affected by it. You reap what you sow, but what you reap is also affected by what those around you sow. It's not like we each live in a bubble.
You reap what you believe, therefore
as Jesus said be it according to your faith. My faith is great enough for me to raise my children in the Word of God
and keep them from the woes of this world. And this is not an opinion.
 
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My faith is great enough for me to raise my children in the Word of God
and keep them from the woes of this world.
Do you have any idea how offensive your statements might be to Christian parents of wayward children?? You're saying that if a child strays, then it's totally the fault of the parents. Here's a news flash for you: People have free will to make bad choices. I have a friend whose son strayed and then drowned in a lake. I know another guy, a minister, whose son strayed and now flies a rainbow flag. Would you have the stones to go tell either of these guys that they lacked faith and that's why they've lost their kids?

And even if your kids don't stray, they can still be affected by the prevalence of sin in this world. Are you just fine with physical harm coming to your kids? How is your faith going to stop that? Was God's faith not great enough to keep His Child from the woe's of this world?

And here's another point: Do you care about what is offensive to God? Does that even matter to you? Even if you can somehow keep your children from being affected by it, the prevalence of this in our society is offensive to God and it should therefore be offensive to Christians. I wouldn't be surprised if God is more annoyed by Christians who aren't offended by sodomites than He is of the sodomites themselves.
 
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Do you have any idea how offensive your statements might be to Christian parents of wayward children?? .
I do not care if anything I say offends anyone.
For my words are good and true. Maybe if the pastors would preach these things that offend sinners
then it might motivate them to save themselves from their sins by not doing them.
 
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I do not care if anything I say offends anyone.
Duly noted. Does that include the words you say that offend God?

For my words are good and true.
You're full of pride.

Maybe if the pastors would preach these things that offend sinners
then it might motivate them to save themselves from their sins by not doing them.
LOL...you just got done saying that we shouldn't be concerned about hordes of sodomites wanting to convert our children. You were basically saying that we don't even need to talk about it. And now you're saying that there needs to be more preaching against sodomy. How is anyone going to take you seriously when your position flipflops so quickly?
 
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Duly noted. Does that include the words you say that offend God?


You're full of pride.


LOL...you just got done saying that we shouldn't be concerned about hordes of sodomites wanting to convert our children. You were basically saying that we don't even need to talk about it. And now you're saying that there needs to be more preaching against sodomy. How is anyone going to take you seriously when your position flipflops so quickly?
My words are good and true.
And so are these...
For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.
 
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Godsgirl83

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Why fret over it? If you do that to which you are to raise your children in the word of God
then they will not ever be effected by any of it. The only ones who will lose their children to it
are them who did not do what was right by them. You reap what you sow.
:unsure: It is apparent that you likely are not a parent
 
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Godsgirl83

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My faith is great enough for me to raise my children in the Word of God
and keep them from the woes of this world. And this is not an opinion.
Unless you are completely secluded away from anyone else of this world then there is no way to keep your children away from the woes of this world,
no matter how much you raise them in the Word of God.
That's not an opinion either.
 

Nehemiah6

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My faith is great enough for me to raise my children in the Word of God and keep them from the woes of this world.
Your faith is not the same as the faith of your children (or as it might be in the future). In fact your cannot guarantee anyone else's faith, since it is an individual matter. As to keeping anyone from "the woes" of this world, Christ has already told Christians that in this world they will have much tribulation (woes). So what makes you think your children (if believers) will escape what other Christians are subject to?
 
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Your faith is not the same as the faith of your children (or as it might be in the future). In fact your cannot guarantee anyone else's faith, since it is an individual matter. As to keeping anyone from "the woes" of this world, Christ has already told Christians that in this world they will have much tribulation (woes). So what makes you think your children (if believers) will escape what other Christians are subject to?
If you cannot believe, you cannot receive,
all my words are good and true even if you cannot receive them.

You will never hear Jesus say to me..."oh ye of little faith".