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You mean those who call us "Goyim"? I don't know who is at the top of the power structure but it's not Biden. Yes Biden is a puppet. Some say the Vatican, some say illuminati, some say Jesuits. I know that I got a visceral reaction hearing Obama and Harris speak, and seeing the evil emanate from one of the former Pope's caught throwing the devil's hand sign. So there is some kind of demonic possession going on there.
Yes. Sadly our church is infiltrated with a child of Satan as the pope. He is an anti-Christian communist who supports mass immigration, sodomites and white genocide, opposes proselytism, said that masturbation was not a sin and even denied the existence of hell and the divinity of Jesus. There are also many other Satans around there. But again, it is not really at the top of the power. It is one of the many institutions the hook noses have taken the control of.
I do not support Israel. I read that's a huge lie. Any believer worth their salt can see that 'Israel' flies a satanic flag - the pentagram. I tried telling this to the pastor at bible study and he regurgitated the lie: It's the star of David. I asked him to show me where that is in the bible. He couldn't.
The Star of David (hexagram) has pagan roots and is in fact a Satanic symbol. It contains six points, six triangles and six sides, which together make 666. The State of "Israel" is indeed the nation of the Antichrist. Many Christians have heard that the Zionist entity commits crimes against the Palestinian people, but don't realize that there are a few of them who are Christians too. According to statistics more than three-quarters (78%) of Christians living in Israel are Arabs, and Christians represent an 8% of all the Israeli Arabs. Persecutions against Christians in the Zionist entity are a reality but much of the media will deny it and promote the country as a supposed democracy with freedom of religion. Lebanon is a much freer and more democratic place than the Zionist entity, and its population is around 40% Christian (which is twice the percentage in my country Czechia, in the middle of Europe). Last year I also did a search for information about how Christmas is celebrated around the world, and even myself was shocked to find that Christmas was not a public holiday in Israel but it was in Syria, Lebanon, Palestine, Iraq, Jordan, Egypt, and even in India, Nepal, Bangladesh, Myanmar, Indonesia and Malaysia, and there were not one but two days of rest in Sudan and Brunei!
As soon as I hear a pastor tell us we have to support 'Israel' I turn it off. I have not studied it in-depth enough but I know enough to see that Israel flies a pentagram.
Great! Those pastors are not real Christians, but slaves of the Jew.
 

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Yes. Sadly our church is infiltrated with a child of Satan as the pope. He is an anti-Christian communist who supports mass immigration, sodomites and white genocide, opposes proselytism, said that masturbation was not a sin and even denied the existence of hell and the divinity of Jesus. There are also many other Satans around there. But again, it is not really at the top of the power. It is one of the many institutions the hook noses have taken the control of.

The Star of David (hexagram) has pagan roots and is in fact a Satanic symbol. It contains six points, six triangles and six sides, which together make 666. The State of "Israel" is indeed the nation of the Antichrist. Many Christians have heard that the Zionist entity commits crimes against the Palestinian people, but don't realize that there are a few of them who are Christians too. According to statistics more than three-quarters (78%) of Christians living in Israel are Arabs, and Christians represent an 8% of all the Israeli Arabs. Persecutions against Christians in the Zionist entity are a reality but much of the media will deny it and promote the country as a supposed democracy with freedom of religion. Lebanon is a much freer and more democratic place than the Zionist entity, and its population is around 40% Christian (which is twice the percentage in my country Czechia, in the middle of Europe). Last year I also did a search for information about how Christmas is celebrated around the world, and even myself was shocked to find that Christmas was not a public holiday in Israel but it was in Syria, Lebanon, Palestine, Iraq, Jordan, Egypt, and even in India, Nepal, Bangladesh, Myanmar, Indonesia and Malaysia, and there were not one but two days of rest in Sudan and Brunei!

Great! Those pastors are not real Christians, but slaves of the Jew.

You are more informed than most - even pastors. There is still a lot that I don't understand but I read that Scofield was a plant who warped christianity. I'm still surprised that there are so few discerning believers.

https://litteraltruth.com/2021/11/02/how-gullible-christians-became-zionists/
 
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You mean those who call us "Goyim"? I don't know who is at the top of the power structure but it's not Biden. Yes Biden is a puppet. Some say the Vatican, some say illuminati, some say Jesuits. I know that I got a visceral reaction hearing Obama and Harris speak, and seeing the evil emanate from one of the former Pope's caught throwing the devil's hand sign. So there is some kind of demonic possession going on there.

I do not support Israel. I read that's a huge lie. Any believer worth their salt can see that 'Israel' flies a satanic flag - the pentagram. I tried telling this to the pastor at bible study and he regurgitated the lie: It's the star of David. I asked him to show me where that is in the bible. He couldn't.

Apparently Scofield was an illuminati plant who also taught the false rapture theory. As soon as I hear a pastor tell us we have to support 'Israel' I turn it off. I have not studied it in-depth enough but I know enough to see that Israel flies a pentagram.

https://litteraltruth.com/2021/11/02/how-gullible-christians-became-zionists/

Zechariah 12, refers to the futility of people attacking Jerusalem: “I am going to make Jerusalem a cup that sends all the surrounding peoples reeling. Judah will be besieged as well as Jerusalem. On that day, when all the nations of the earth are gathered against her, I will make Jerusalem an immovable rock for all the nations. All who try to move it will injure themselves. On that day I will strike every horse with panic and its rider with madness.”

Currently, Jerusalem is still experiencing what Jesus called “the times of the Gentiles” in Luke 21, “Jerusalem will be trampled on by the Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.” This period began with the Babylonian Exile (or possibly with the destruction of Jerusalem in AD 70) and will continue through the tribulation period (Matthew 24, Revelation 11:2). Scripture tells us to “pray for the peace of Jerusalem” (Psalm 122:6).

The rebirth of Israel in 1948 was a vital step in the fulfillment of biblical prophecy. The dry bones of the prophecy in Ezekiel 37 began coming back together. The recognition of Jerusalem as Israel’s capital is another important step. The stage is being set for other prophecies to be fulfilled.

God promised blessings on those who bless Israel and curses on those who curse her (Genesis 12:3), and since Jerusalem is depicted as the center of Jewish life, it follows that those who pray for her peace and security will be granted peace themselves.
 

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November 8-11 numerous workers are planning a protest. Do you have any thoughts on this?
Protests are being totally ignored by the tyrants in control of the Western nations. They have been rendered useless because the courts have all been corrupted. So the only remedy now would be the forcible ejection of the leaders and their henchmen.
 

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Zechariah 12, refers to the futility of people attacking Jerusalem: “I am going to make Jerusalem a cup that sends all the surrounding peoples reeling. Judah will be besieged as well as Jerusalem. On that day, when all the nations of the earth are gathered against her, I will make Jerusalem an immovable rock for all the nations. All who try to move it will injure themselves. On that day I will strike every horse with panic and its rider with madness.”

Currently, Jerusalem is still experiencing what Jesus called “the times of the Gentiles” in Luke 21, “Jerusalem will be trampled on by the Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.” This period began with the Babylonian Exile (or possibly with the destruction of Jerusalem in AD 70) and will continue through the tribulation period (Matthew 24, Revelation 11:2). Scripture tells us to “pray for the peace of Jerusalem” (Psalm 122:6).

The rebirth of Israel in 1948 was a vital step in the fulfillment of biblical prophecy. The dry bones of the prophecy in Ezekiel 37 began coming back together. The recognition of Jerusalem as Israel’s capital is another important step. The stage is being set for other prophecies to be fulfilled.

God promised blessings on those who bless Israel and curses on those who curse her (Genesis 12:3), and since Jerusalem is depicted as the center of Jewish life, it follows that those who pray for her peace and security will be granted peace themselves.
I'm not sure that God is referring to 'Israel' as in a -physical- sense - I believe that He's referring to US - the new Israel.

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Consider the following facts to see why Christians should NOT support the state of Israel. Rather we should pray for Jews to come to know their Messiah, who has already come and ratified the everlasting covenant with His blood as the Passover Lamb.​
The Jews are forbidden from possessing the land.
The Jews were removed from the promised land when Elohim sent the Babylonians and then the Romans, against them; because of their disobedience to Elohim, and their worship of foreign gods.
“And you, even of yourself, shall let go of your inheritance which I gave you. And I shall make you serve your enemies in a land which you have not known, for you have kindled a fire in My displeasure which burns forever.” Jeremiah 17:4​

Many Torah Jews know this, which is why they protest against Zionist Israel, saying that it is illegitimate.
The Carnegie Endowment scholar and former editor of Foreign Policy, David Rothkopf says, “American Jews now have a duty to oppose Israel.”
For American Jews we have gone from a duty to support Israel to a duty to question Israel to a duty to oppose Israel.
How many abuses must take place? How many laws like this that claim racism as the national character and ethnic purity as its goal?… my point is that at some point my duty as an American (and as a Jew) is to actively oppose an ethno-nationalist regime that is systematically undermining the human rights of people within its borders & threatening peace and int’l values.
Israeli Professor Nurit Peled-Elhanan said in a speech, “Israel has reached an unimaginable peak of evil. And indeed many people all over the world find it hard to imagine that this is so.”
Who could imagine Jewish thugs, wearing black boots and helmets, armed with guns and batons, lashing dogs at small children and old people, or letting asylum seekers die of thirst in the desert and prisoners die of hunger strikes, punishing them and their families by sending them to confinement;
who would conceive of Jewish doctors driving a wounded man out of hospital and letting him die of thirst on a deserted road, who would think of Jewish soldiers breaking the neck of a young girl with a pink scarf for protesting against oppression.
Who could imagine the education of Jewish girls as consisting of beating up and harassing women and children, or a Jewish soldier girl receiving a badge of courage for murdering a Palestinian boy who went to fetch his birthday cake.
The only possible conclusion must be that Israeli evil has nothing to do with Judaism and that what is manifested in Israeli behavior is not Jewishness. “​
Rabbinical Torah Jews believe that the Zionist state of Israel is illegitimate in the eyes of God and that it DOES NOT represent true Jews or Judaism.
They believe that the Zionists have illegitimately seized the name “Israel” and have no right to speak in the name of the Jewish people!
They believe that contemporary sovereignty over the Holy Land belongs to those who have lived there for centuries, the Palestinians.
In this interview, Rabbi Yaakov Shapiro, rabbi of Beis Medrash of Bayswater, explains the motives behind the claims of Netanyahu and other Israeli leaders to represent all Jews. He explains how Zionism, starting from Theodor Herzl, unilaterally arrogated to itself the right to speak in the name of world Jewry. Rabbi Shapiro explains the motives behind this and the danger it poses to the Jewish people.

In this interview, Rabbi Weiss is sharply critical in his remarks of the ideology of Zionism, who wrongly claim to represent Jews.


“Don’t let the Zionist media fool you. There are hundreds of thousands of fervently anti-Zionist ultra-Orthodox Jews throughout the world, and we will never surrender to the Zionist idea…… Even secular Zionism has been a catastrophe for the Jewish people, but religious Zionism, combining two opposites into an unstable mixture, is leading the Jewish people to moral depravity. It is the complete inverse of the Jewish mission to be a light to the nations and bring peace to the world.” – True Torah Jews
You can read more about them at these websites:
True Torah Jews / Jews United Against Zionism
“The Arab nation never harmed the Jew until the advent of Jewish nationalism. The Zionists are heretics.” Rabbi Amram Blau 1894-1974
Since Torah Jews believe that the state of Israel is illegitimate in the eyes of Elohim, we should not support them either.
Dr. Hajo Meyer, Auschwitz survivor, said:
“If we want to stay really human beings, we must get up and call the Zionists what they are: Nazi criminals,” Meyer said. The hate of the Jews by the Germans “was less deeply rooted than the hate of the Palestinians by the Israeli Jews,” he observed. “The brainwashing of the Jewish Israeli populations is going on for over sixty years. They cannot see a Palestinian as a human being.”
“My message for the Palestinians is that they should not give up their fight,” he replied. “If they give up, they might lose their self-esteem with the ongoing humiliations by the Israeli Nazis. Fight with human means. It is justified to show to the Israeli Zionists that you are a force to reckon with. Fight with stones, with weapons. Yes, also with weapons. If you don’t fight, you lose your self-esteem and will not be respected by the Israelis.”
“If we Western democratic societies don’t support the Palestinians in their fight, we must feel ashamed if the Palestinians are annihilated. The US and the European Union must show their teeth,” he added.
Source: https://electronicintifada.net/blog...vivor-urged-palestinians-not-give-their-fight
Dr. Chuck Baldwin, who ran for President of the United States, teaches why Zionist Israel is Hell’s Greatest Hoaxes On America.
Here is a short highlight that was taken from the two part sermons that are listed below.

Hell’s Greatest Hoaxes On America (Part 1)
Hell’s Greatest Hoaxes On America (Part 2)

Steven Ben-Denoon of Israeli News Live proclaims that top ISIS agents are Israel MOSSAD.
It is a shame to receive such news that Israeli Operatives are Leading ISIS in Mosul. This report comes after the fact that INL had once before reported from sources in the Israeli Military that had first shared this information with us.

Simon Elliot, who is no doubt Israeli MOSSAD, leads ISIS; with the alias Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi.

Here is Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi with John McCain.

Jews Step Forward to denounce the Zionist state of Israel
 

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DNA studies confirm that 97% of people who call themselves Jews, ARE NOT descendants of Abraham.
In 2001, Dr. Ariella Oppenheim (a Jew), a biologist at Hebrew University, published the first extensive study of DNA and the origin of the Jews. Her research found that virtually all the Jews came from Khazar blood.
The newest DNA research science from Dr. Eran Elhaik (a Jew) and his associates at the McKusick-Nathans Institute of Genetic Medicine, Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine, has confirmed that:
The various groups of Jews in the world today DO NOT share a common genetic origin, and their genome is largely Khazar.​
In fact, DNA research shows that the Palestinians actually have more Israelite blood than do the Khazar ‘Jews!’​
These DNA research results should cause you to question everything you know about modern day Jews and the state of Israel.
Today they’re called Ashkenazi Jews, but they are a Jew by religion, not by blood. Most of them have Turkish-Mongol DNA.
The 1905 Jewish Encyclopedia Vol. XI p 533, stated that ‘probably 95% of the persons included in these estimates of Jewish populations are Ashkenazim‘.
The 1973 Jewish Encyclopedia documents that approximately 90% of the world’s so-called Jews are Khazar. A. N. Poliak, Professor of Medieval Jewish History at Tel Aviv University, says that the majority of Eastern European Jews are Khazar and Japhetic in origin, not Semitic. Immigration statistics indicate approximately 90% of the world’s so-called or self-styled ‘Jews’ living in 42 countries of the world are emigrants of Eastern European Khazar Jews.​
Jesus words that Jerusalem will be “trampled by Gentiles” are confirmed, as 97% of the so-called Jews in Israel are Gentiles.
To read a more in-depth study about this, click on Jews Who Are Not Jews.
Since they’re not the descendents of Abraham, then they don’t have a right to
the land or to persecute the Palestinians, who they kicked off of the land.
And Christians should not support them.

Miko Peled, the son of the late Israeli general Mattityahu Peled, proclaims that the Zionist leaders of Israel are not Jewish.
Miko Peled is an Israeli writer and activist and the author of “The General’s Son: Journey of an Israeli in Palestine.”

Mike has proclaimed that, “Israel is a racist criminal state that uses “security” as an excuse to murder innocent Palestinians and assassinate Palestinian political leaders, intellectuals and clergy. This has been going on for over six decades.”

Judaism is not the religion of the Old Testament.
In Judaism’s Strange Gods: Revised and Expanded Christian scholar Michael Hoffman documents his provocative thesis that Judaism is not the religion of the Old Testament.
It is the newly formalized belief system of the Pharisees, which arose in Babylon with the commitment of the formally oral traditions of the elders to writing, in the wake of the crucifixion of Israels Messiah and the destruction of the Temple.
Basing his findings on authoritative Judaic sources, Hoffman demonstrates that Judaism is a man-made religion of tradition and superstition, which represents the institutionalized nullification of Biblical law and doctrine.
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Quotes from Jews about Zionist Israel
Michael Selzer
“Zionism is a complex phenomenon, adequately understood by only a small percentage of its critics and by even a smaller percentage of its supporters.”​
Sigmund Freud
“It would have seemed more sensible to me to establish a Jewish homeland on a less historically-burdened land. I can raise no sympathy at all for the misdirected piety which transforms a piece of a Herodian wall into a national relic, thereby offending the feelings of the natives.”​
Erich Fromm
“The claim of the Jews to the Land of Israel cannot be a realistic political claim. If all nations would suddenly claim territories in which their forefathers lived two thousand years ago, this world would be a madhouse.”​
Albert Einstein
“I should much rather see reasonable agreement with the Arabs on the basis of living together in peace than the creation of a Jewish state. Apart from the practical considerations, my awareness of the essential nature of Judaism resists the idea of a Jewish state with borders, an army, and a measure of temporal power no matter how modest. I am afraid of the inner damage Judaism will sustain — especially from the development of a narrow nationalism within our own ranks, against which we have already had to fight without a Jewish state.”​
Paul Wellstone
“Palestinians must no longer be subjected to the daily, often humiliating reminders that they lack basic freedom and control over their lives.”​
Henry Hurwitz editor of The Menorah Journal
“We rub our eyes, some of us who were life long Zionists, and we hang our heads in shame. No, we must speak with frankness: this present Israel is not what we dreamed and hoped for and worked for, we who followed Herzl or Ahad Ha’Am, Brandeis or Weizmann.”​
Isaac Asimov
“As usual, I found myself in the odd position of not being a Zionist……..I just think it is more important to be human and to have a human heritage; and I think it is wrong for anyone to feel that there is anything special about any one heritage of whatever kind.”​
I.F. Stone
“… Israel is creating a kind of moral schizophrenia in world Jewry. In the outside world the welfare of Jewry depends on the maintenance of secular, non-racial, pluralistic societies. In Israel, Jewry finds itself defending a society in which mixed marriages cannot be legalized, in which the ideal is racial and exclusionist. Jews might fight elsewhere for their very security and existence — against principles and practices they find themselves defending in Israel.”​
Nahum Goldmann
“When Zionism first appeared on the world scene most Jews opposed it and scoffed at it. Herzl was only supported by a small minority.”​
American Jewish Council 1944
“Jewish nationalism tends to confuse our fellowman about our place and function in society and diverts our own attention from our historic role to live as a religious community wherever we may dwell.” .…the concept of a theocratic state is long past. It is an anachronism. The concept of a racial state “the Hitlerian concept” is repugnant to the civilized world, as witness the fearful global war in which we are involved.”​
Immanuel Wallerstein
“What the Israeli governments do not realize is that neither Hamas nor Hizbullah need Israel. It is Israel that needs them, and needs them desperately. If Israel wants not to become a Crusader state that is in the end extinguished, it is only Hamas and Hizbullah that can guarantee the survival of Israel. It is only when Israel is able to come to terms with them, as the deeply-rooted spokespersons of Palestinian and Arab nationalism, that Israel can live in peace……. Both Palestinian and world public opinion is moving towards the one-state solution. And this is of course the end of the Zionist project. The three-element strategy of Israel is decomposing. The iron fist no longer succeeds, much as it didn’t for George Bush in Iraq…….And will world public opinion continue to look sympathetically on Israel? It seems not. Can Israel now switch to an alternative strategy, of negotiating with the militant representatives of the Arab Palestinians, as an integral constituent of the Middle East, and not as an outpost of Europe? It seems quite late for that, quite possibly too late.”​
Richard Cohen
“The greatest mistake Israel could make at the moment is to forget that Israel itself is a mistake. It is an honest mistake, a well-intentioned mistake, a mistake for which no one is culpable, but the idea of creating a nation of European Jews in an area of Arab Muslims (and some Christians) has produced a century of warfare and terrorism of the sort we are seeing now. Israel fights Hezbollah in the north and Hamas in the south, but its most formidable enemy is history itself.”​
Norman Finkelstein
“They used to say Palestinians fight like heroes, now they say heroes fight like Palestinians….People have to liberate themselves because liberation is not a single act. It’s a question of eternal vigilance…..Why should these Palestinians, who have lived in Jerusalem for hundreds of years, be evicted from their homes so that Jews from Brooklyn can live in them?”​
Richard Falk
“I think that my life’s work in a sense has been associated with helping or identifying with those who are victims of injustice. If we look at the world today, there are many victims of injustice. But I think the Palestinians stand out as the most victimized people in the world. And symbolically, their struggle is one that engages people of conscience everywhere in the world in a manner that resembles the way the anti-apartheid movement worked effectively to undermine South Africa’s claims of sovereignty and legitimacy. And I hope that this small role that I play contributes to that kind of process on behalf of the Palestinian”​
Gabriel Kolko
“The result of the creation of a state called Israel was abysmal. Jews from Poland have nothing in common with Germans and neither has anything to do with those from the Arab world. It is nationality, not religion, that counts most. Jews in Israel, especially the Germans, largely ghettoized themselves by their place of origin during the first generation, when a militarized culture produced the mixed new breed called sabras — an essentially anti-intellectual personality far different from the one the early Zionists, who were mostly socialists who preached the nobility of labor, expected to emerge. The large majority of Israelis are not in the least Jewish in the cultural sense, are scarcely socialist in any sense, and daily life and the way people live is no different in Israel than it is in Chicago or Amsterdam. There is simply no rational reason that justifies the state’s creation….The outcome is a small state with a military ethos that pervades all aspects of Israel’s culture, its politics and, above all, its response to the existence of Arabs in its midst and at its borders. From its inception, the ideology of the early Zionists — of Labor Zionism as well as the rightist Revisionism that Vladimir Jabotinsky produced — embodied a commitment to violence, erroneously called self-defense, and a virtual hysteria. As a transcendent idea, Zionism has no validity because the national differences between Jews are overwhelming.”​
Murray Polner
“Back in the 1980s the major American Jewish welfare organization adopted as its fundraising slogan “We are One.” The implication was that American Jews were a united bloc. But we are not “one” and never have been. Ideologically, we are everything from anarchists to Zionists, working people to the gilded rich. Noam Chomsky is as Jewish as Irving Kristol, and Norman Finkelstein as Jewish as Alan Dershowitz. We are neither angels nor saints. And we are certainly not monolithic, despite perennial efforts to paint anyone critical of various aspects of Israeli policies as “self-hating” Jews”​
Tony Judt
“My own inclination, then, would be to focus elsewhere. If the Jews of Europe and North America took their distance from Israel (as many have begun to do), the assertion that Israel was “their” state would take on an absurd air. Over time, even Washington might come to see the futility of attaching American foreign policy to the delusions of one small Middle Eastern state. This, I believe, is the best thing that could possibly happen to Israel itself. It would be obliged to acknowledge its limits. It would have to make other friends, preferably among its neighbours.”​
Henry Siegman, a former national director of the American Jewish Congress and of the Synagogue Council of America
“Israel has crossed the threshold from ‘the only democracy in the Middle East’ to the only apartheid regime in the Western world. The inevitability of such a transformation has been held out not by “Israel bashers” but by the country’s own leaders.”​
Uri Avnery
“What will be seared into the consciousness of the world will be the image of Israel as a blood-stained monster, ready at any moment to commit war crimes and not prepared to abide by any moral restraints. This will have severe consequences for our long-term future, our standing in the world, our chance of achieving peace and quiet. In the end, this war is a crime against ourselves too, a crime against the State of Israel.”​
 

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Joseph Glatzer
“The point of view I have in regards to Israel/Palestine is based on nothing more than having a conscience and knowing the difference between right and wrong…. Finding out that my Orange County Right-Wing Republican fetishized ideal of Israel wasn’t what I thought it was was truly earth-shattering for me. I couldn’t believe Israel wasn’t actually the defender of democracy in the Middle East as I was raised to believe …White phosphorous melting the faces off children, just because they were guilty of attending a UN school. Civilians waving white flags were shot; the UN warehouse of food aid for the victims was bombed and exploded by Israel…When I hear people attack Palestinians and deny their Nakba, I now take it personally. I feel it in my heart. It’s not just a statistic anymore…”​
Rabbi Daniel Landes, Director of the Pardes Institute of Jewish Studies in Jerusalem
“We Religious Zionists Are in Deep Trouble. ‘Krazy Kookniks’ are now the cutting edge or logical extension of normative Religious Zionism, which today is overtly messianic, narrowly nationalistic, and in its Orthodoxy, essentially isolationist……The religious Zionist magic moment in Shabbat services is the prayer for the State of Israel – edging out the attention once given to the iconic Jewish prayer, the Shema – which describes Israel as “the first flowering of our deliverance.” Rather than hope, religious Zionism threatens to become, in the souls and actions of its adherents, a dangerous dogma of a deaf and dumb Impatient Messianism that talks to no one but knows just “what to do” to those who stand in its way, Arab or Jew.”​


The Israeli army uses three internationally banned weapons in its military agression against the unarmed civilian population of Palestine.
Israel uses Dense Inert Metal Explosive (DIME). DIME weapons spread inert metal atoms that penetrate the human body and are difficult to get out of human tissue.
The second internationally banned weapon used by Israel is armor piercing bombs.
The third internationally banned weapon used by Israel is white phosphorous, which mixes with oxygen to form a transparent wax and causes fires and thick, white smoke. When the human body is exposed to white phosphorus, it burns the skin and flesh; only the bones remain.
The use of such banned weapons against humans is a flagrant violation of international law, especially the fourth Geneva convention.

Shulamit Aloni, former Minister in the Israeli government, says that using accusations of anti-semitism is a trick, which Zionists always use.


“Palestinians are fighting for their lives; Israel is fighting for the occupation.
That we notice there’s a way on only when Jews are murdered does not cancel out the fact that Palestinians are being killed all the time.The Palestinians are fighting for their life, in the full sense of the word.
We Israeli Jews are fighting for our privelege as a nation of masters, in the full ugliness of the term. We are doing everything in our power to make their lives unbearable.”
Amira Hass, Oct 07, 2015 – Haaretz

 

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Their Babylonian Talmud is anti-christ and anti-christian.
The Ashkenazi Jewish leaders believe that their Babylonian Talmud supersedes the Bible in authority, and it says blasphemous things such as:
– “Jesus is in hell, being boiled in “hot excrement.” Gittin 57a
– “Jesus’ mother was a whore who played the harlot with carpenters.” Shabbath 104b
– “Christians are allied with hell, and Christianity is worse than incest.” Abodah Zara 17a
– “Just the Jews are humans, the non-Jews are no humans, but cattle.” Kerithuth 6b
Since their Babylonian Talmud is clearly anti-Christ and anti-Christian, Christians should not support them.

Their Egyptian Kaballah is based on witchcraft and astrology.
Gershow Scholem (1897-1982), Professor of Kabbalah at Hebrew University in Jerusalem, said that the Kabbalah contains a great deal of black magic and sorcery, to invoke the powers of devils to disrupt the natural order.
Since their Egyptian Kaballah is based on witchcraft and astrology, which Elohim forbids, Christians should not support them.

The six-sided star on their flag represents 666 and Satan.
King David never used a star, so that’s just a lie to cover what it really represents.
Solomon fell away from Elohim and he built altars to and worshiped false gods, such as Ashtoreh and Remphran. He used the star in his seal as a symbol of protection.
It is the supreme symbol of satanic tyranny against Elohim and humanity, and has long been used in Egypt and Babylon magic, occultism, witchcraft and the casting of zodiacal horoscopes by astrologers.
The 6 points, 6 triangles, and the 6 sides of the hexagram = 666!
The hexagram is on the flag of Israeli, because the Satan-led, Jesuit-controlled, Rothchild family, owns and controls Israel. Read The Star Of David Deception
Since the hexagram on their flag represents 666 and Satan, it identifies Israel’s Ashkenazi Jewish leaders as antichrist, and Christians should not support them.

The Rothchild family finances and controls the state of Israel.
This Hasidic Jew tells you the truth about Zionist “Israel” which was created for the Jesuit Rothchild family.

Israel was created by the Jesuit Rothschilds as a nation-state to hide their money, and an opportunistic group – the Zionists – who would front for them.
The Jesuits use the powerful Israel military to control the Middle East.

The “regathering” of Israelites has already been fulfilled.
The “regathering” that so many teachers attribute to the modern state of Israel, was fulfilled BEFORE Jesus first coming.
Elohim said that the Israelites would be regathered, not just the Jews. The Jews are only 1/12th of the tribes of Israel, which descended from Jacob/Israel.
Jeremiah 31:31 says “Behold, the days are coming, says the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah.”​
The Jews (tribe of Judah) were released from their Babylonian captivity, and allowed to return to Jerusalem, to rebuild the city and the temple.
People from the other Israelite tribes (tribe of Israel) also returned and lived in Galilee, where Messiah found many of His disciples.
Messiah confirmed that the house of Israel had been regathered in Matthew 15:24, when He said, “I was not sent except to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”
In Hebrews 8:8-10, Paul confirmed that this prophecy had been fulfilled, as the New Covenant Gospel was preached to the House of Israel and the House of Judah, through Jesus and His disciples.
To read more about why there is no need for a regathering in the end times, click on Regathering Of The Jews Deception
Because the regathering of Israelites already happened before Jesus first coming, we should not look for another Elohim-ordained regathering. This confirms that the modern state of Israel is illegitimate, and Christians should not support it.

“Bless Israel, be blessed; curse Israel, be cursed” manipulates God’s Word.
The Word of Elohim says in Genesis 12, “I will bless those who bless you, And I will curse him who curses you; And in you ALL the families of the earth shall be blessed.”
False teachers wrongly insert the name “Israel” (the modern nation of Israel), in place of “you” (Abraham).
It DOES NOT say “Israel”, as there is no Israel. Abraham is NOT a physical Israelite or Jew, as they were descendants of his grandson, Jacob/Israel.
Elohim had just told Abraham to leave Ur and all his comforts, and Elohim was reassuring him that He will protect him, provide for him and bless him.
The name “Israel” represents people who have a spiritual covenant relationship with God by faith, like Abraham.
The angel wrestled with Jacob “spiritually” to help him come to the end of himself, his life of deception, and his living “out of the flesh“; and into a real relationship with Elohim, where he trusted Elohim to live through him.
The word “Israel” in the Bible DOES NOT mean the modern nation of Israel.
Israel represents a people who trust in Elohim by faith, not a place.​
The name “Israel” has been hijacked by people who aren’t even descendents of Abraham, so Christians should not support them.
 

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“God’s chosen people” are those who have a Covenant relationship with Him.
“Just as Abraham “believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.” Therefore know that only those who are of faith are sons of Abraham. And the Scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, preached the gospel to Abraham beforehand, saying, “In you all the nations shall be blessed.” So then those who are of faith are blessed with believing Abraham.” Galatians 3:6-9

It can’t be more clear!!! Abraham’s spiritual descendants, those who believe by faith in the atoning work of Yahusha/Jesus, are Elohim’s Chosen People, who have blessed the earth with the Gospel.

Romans 2:28-29 tells us that a Jew is one inwardly, whose heart is circumcised.
“For he is not a Jew who is one outwardly, nor is circumcision that which is outward in the flesh; but he is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the Spirit, not in the letter; whose praise is not from men but from God.”
Romans 9:6-8 says Abraham’s fleshly descendents ARE NOT the children of Elohim.
“For they are not all Israel who are of Israel, nor are they all children because they are the seed of Abraham; but, “In Isaac your seed shall be called.” That is, those who are the children of the flesh, these are NOT the children of God; but the children of the promise are counted as the seed.”
Galatians 3:7 tells us that ONLY those who are of faith are the children of Elohim.
“Therefore know that only those who are of faith are sons of Abraham.”
Galatians 3:16 tells us that Messiah is the seed of Abraham.
“Now to Abraham and his Seed were the promises made. He does not say, “And to seeds,” as of many, but as of one, “and to your Seed,” who is Christ.”
Galatians 3:28-29 tells us that followers of Messiah (Jew and Gentile) are Abraham’s seed who receive the promises made to Abraham.
“There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. And if you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.”
Because Elohims’s promises are to His spiritual descendants, Christians should not support the unbelieving leaders of the state of Israel.

The Jews have been expelled from places 345 times since 100 A.D.
They were kicked out of countries for being deceitful, lying, ritual murder, ritual murder of a child, crucifying a child; killing, stealing and destroying. That is once every 5.56 years. Here is a list with sources.

So what reasons do you have to support the Jews and the state of Israel?
Do they thank Elohim for restoring them after 1,878 years of exile?
Do you hear Israel’s leaders mention the Elohim of the Bible?
Are they bearing fruit for Elohim ?
Is there any evidence to show why Christians should support them?
Friend, you’ve read all of the evidence.
It’s time to acknowledge that Christians have been greatly deceived by Satan.
Until you see this truth, you won’t be able to discern end times prophecy, because most of the false teaching are based around the creation of the modern state of Israel.

Why has the modern state of Israel been created and filled with Fake Jews?
The Jesuits of the Roman Catholic Church needed to take control of the Middle East, in order to be able to push Islamic countries into the New World Order.
If you haven’t read our study that identifies the Roman Catholic Church as the beast of Daniel and Revelation, click on The Beasts of Daniel and Revelation
They will use Jerusalem as their New World Order headquarters, as it’s the central place that ties in Christianity, Judaism and Islam.
After wars between America, Israel and Islamic countries; they will unite all religions into one in the name of peace, which will have the effect of making Christians (spiritual Israel) the enemies of the world.
Their modern state of Israel serves to deceive Christians about end-times prophecy, so they can’t discern the truth.
It has caused Christians in America to support Israel, regardless of their actions. We give them 3 Billion Dollars a year, provide military support and veto any action against them by other countries.

Satan used the Rothchild family to create the Zionist state of Israel.
The Ashkenazi Jew (Jesuit-controlled) Rothchild family coat of arms includes the hexagram, as they practice Babylonian Judaism and worship Satan.
They are ultra-wealthy because their banking schemes have stolen the wealth of the nations, including the U.S. via the Federal Reserve Bank (which they share private ownership).
They bought a great deal of property from the Turks and Arabs, to create early Jewish settlements in Palestine.
Then the Jesuits instigated WWII and the killing of Jews, to help justify the creation of the state of Israel.
To get support from the U.S., they bribed President Truman with 2 Million Dollars to approve the U.N. resolution.
They are the reason for the hexagram six-sided star on Israel’s flag, as it represents 666 and Satan. The Menorah has always represents the Jews of the Bible.
 

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The Israeli Supreme Court building was funded and designed by the Rothchild family, and it features many Satanic, Illuminati symbols.
The most prominent symbol is the green pyramid with the all seeing eye on it, which represents Satan, the god of this earth. There is also many Illuminati symbols in the building, and an obelisk, which represents Sun worship, which ultimately is Satan worship.


The Israeli military attacked the U.S.S. Liberty in 1967, killing 34 and injuring 174.
On June 8, 1967, US Navy intelligence ship USS Liberty was suddenly and brutally attacked on the high seas in international waters by the air and naval forces of Israel, killing 34 Americans and wounding another 174.

The Israeli forces attacked with full knowledge that this was an American ship and lied about it. Survivors have been forbidden for 40 years to tell their story under oath to the American public. The USS Liberty Memorial web site tells their story and is dedicated to the memory of the 34 brave men who died. For more information: http://www.gtr5.com/

The Israeli MOSSAD was complicit in the destruction of the towers on 9/11.
The false narrative about 19 hapless Muslims with box cutters causing three steel-framed buildings to fall on 9/11 is a lie. Steel-framed buildings do not collapse on top of themselves, at near free-fall speeds, and end up as a pulverized dust pile. They obviously were destroyed with explosives. Building 7 was not hit by a plane, yet it was caused to collapse six hours after the planes hit.
The link is to a study that gives many references about people who were involved that are Jewish. They are there because you need to see that the Israeli Mossad (and CIA) was behind the False Flag event.
http://thetruthfulone.com/911-truth/
 

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Here is what Israeli leader Benjamin Netanyahu really thinks about Americans.


Don’t you see the cruel irony my friend?
They say that they are Elohim’s chosen people, but their leaders represent Satan.
They cry out about anti-Semitism, but they aren’t even Semites.​
They get Zionist Christians to support them, but they hate Jesus and Christians.
And they are controlled by the Beast of the Roman Catholic Church, which will seek to kill all Christians in their New World Order.​

Satan has deceived Christians about who is ‘Israel’ and who is a ‘Jew’, so that Christian Zionists are unknowingly playing a major role in supporting his diabolical plan for a one-world system, which he will control.
He’s DECEIVED ALMOST THE WHOLE WORLD into believing that they’re the “chosen people” returning to their “promised land”. But they are IMPOSTORS!
Anyone who believes that the ZIONIST STATE of Israel set up by this One World Conspiracy is the same as the NATION of ISRAEL referred to in Scriptures, IS MISERABLY DECEIVED the way Christ warned us in Scriptures that “MANY would be”.
ANY Christian preacher who actively teaches this FALSE DOCTRINE is also either miserably deceived or he is outright LYING, and may Elohim have mercy on him.
Elohim’s Word prophesied that in the last days imposters would erroneously and falsely claim to be “Jews.” These imposters would persecute their enemies, especially the Christians.
But Elohim will have his revenge: “Behold, I will make them of the Synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; Behold I will make them to come and worship at thy feet and know that I have loved thee.” (Revelation 3:9)

From the website: https://christianitybeliefs.org/end-times-deceptions/christians-should-not-support-israel/
 

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Protests are being totally ignored by the tyrants in control of the Western nations. They have been rendered useless because the courts have all been corrupted. So the only remedy now would be the forcible ejection of the leaders and their henchmen.
You are correct: the courts have all been corrupted. We will never obtain justice or fairness from the courts.

But - there are more of us than there are of them. They get before the cameras and speak as if they own our bodies and everything else when they do not.

I have been waiting for a Revolution. Look up the Black Robe Regiment - the PASTORS should be leading now. Bradlee Dean and Tim Brown along with Chuck Baldwin are the pastors leading the most. There must be others.

Our local paper just ran an article about how "the gun buy back has been a success." Great. Now the only ones armed are police - the biggest perpetrators of violence on We The People. It's staggering to think that Americans don't know history! Every single time a tyrannical regime took over the disarmed the people first.

I've been wondering when the people are going to finally blow their fuse. What is it going to take??? Now they've begun injecting 5-11 year olds. Will ANYONE stand up for CHILDREN?
 

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For anyone who is still fooled by the Trump psyop - note the triple six that Netanyahu is throwing. Same hand sign as Trump.
 

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That's encouraging!!! People should not be separated by their skin color. Every single parent and grandparent needs to get involved in this and contact your local schools.

The monsters behind this have control of the education system and are going to pervert and destroy an entire generation of youth unless we get involved.

I agree 100%. If I may add: Physical involvement is a must ALSO in addition is being in constant prayer. "All those who know Your Name will put their trust in You; For You, Lord, have not forsaken those who see You." (Ps.9:10) NKJ
 

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That's encouraging!!! People should not be separated by their skin color. Every single parent and grandparent needs to get involved in this and contact your local schools.

The monsters behind this have control of the education system and are going to pervert and destroy an entire generation of youth unless we get involved.
The solution is very simple -- all Christians pull their kids from public school and "homeschool". It is very easy to do up through 9th grade. You can coordinate with your local church, use the church building, have 4 families or more coordinate. Reading books from the library, using educational videos and tapes, using commercially available educational video games, using youtube videos that teach various topics. I homeschooled my three kids and I can guarantee it is quite simple to do, very effective (much better than public school). You can have your kids get involved in the Choir and join team sports like little league baseball or Karate.

Public school is funded based on attendance. If 20% of the kids were pulled it would be catastrophic, if 50% were pulled the entire system collapses in days.

If you pull 20% of the public school budget they would eliminate all after school programs, all sports, and still have to fire the untenured teachers. Public school would truly be horrific at that point and you would see the other 30% leave.
 

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If you had 20 or 30 kids in a local church "homeschooling" you could bring in one or two retired teachers as full time coordinators. Churches are already involved in vetting sunday school teachers. They would need to make sure that those supervising the kids were vetted. However, 90% of the lessons would be in the books, the videos, and the tapes. Using the internet, school tube, and all the online lessons it would be very easy to put together curriculums for every kid even though they might be in different grades.

Then I think you have a number of people in a church (pastor, assistant pastor, youth leaders, retired teachers, etc) who could run round table discussions with the kids once a week on what they read. Public schools are set up with 90% of time devoted to classroom discussion and 10% devoted to reading. I would flip that, 90% of the time during the week is to reading with a good detailed discussion each week. So if you have 30 hours of class time dedicated to the reading, videos, tapes, and interactive lessons you could then have 3 hours every Saturday morning of roundtable discussion.

The other thing I would encourage is for assignments and projects to be ultimately delivered as Youtube videos. This way the kids project is not just seen by the teacher or even the other class members but by their family, friends and anyone else. Over a period of years they will develop a portfolio of their work. Teachers would be there to help the kids edit and improve these. They would cover a multitude of topics and skills including art, music, history, science, drama, story telling, etc.

Once the public school collapses we could negotiate from strength. My first step would be to have the local churches that are coordinating homeschool consider leasing space in the public schools as long as the space is given all the rights and freedom of religion that a church building is given. Second, leasing these spaces would be conditional on for the government providing the same funding they give for public school to these homeschools (they pay a certain amount for every student attending the school). Most of the money would come back to the state paying to lease their empty buildings so the vast majority of taxpayers would see the benefit in this.

Once you have those two conditions you could open the school up to anyone wanting their kid to also come, parents could see the videos of what the kids have produced.
 

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Biden is now trying to give $450,000 to illegal immigrants who come to America. This pastor said it's a plan to transfer wealth from the middle class. I know someone in real estate who told me that the gangs from South America have taken over certain areas in America where they sell drugs.

At what point do you believe that you will personally take action? I think that this is a question that we must all answer. November 8-11 numerous workers are planning a protest. Do you have any thoughts on this?

https://www.trunews.com/stream/us-p...cartels-preparing-to-invade-texas-and-arizona

Take action? I'm not sure of any action we could take against the cartels that would work in the US. The reason why is because the police here have to identify themselves as law enforcement(badge number,name ect.) unlike the countries in central and south America. If you notice for instance in Mexico the Marina have no name tags on their uniform's,they wear face coverings because they conceal their Identities(cant do that in the US). https://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/23/...drug-cartel-leader-is-captured-in-mexico.html

The reason why is that the tactic's used by the cartels as they took over the South and Central American countries was that they set up in one town after the next and took the names of the officials(mayor,chief of police,district attorneys,officers ect.) and do their "genealogies". They then know who their parents,grand parents,children,uncles,aunts ect.,, are,where they live,go to school,work ect... After they have this information they approach the officer,mayor,police chief ect. and tell them what they want them to do and not do and the cost of disobeying is slavery(human trafficking) death ect.(the millions we see killed each year by the cartels). There's no reason to change that tactic seeing it has worked in every nation so far and wouldn't make sense to change it in the US. The best action would be to quit and find another job because it would be impossible to hide everyone in your family from them. In short because the officials in the US must identify themselves as such either they will obey the cartels or endanger every member of their family trying to take action.
 

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Take action? I'm not sure of any action we could take against the cartels that would work in the US. The reason why is because the police here have to identify themselves as law enforcement(badge number,name ect.) unlike the countries in central and south America. If you notice for instance in Mexico the Marina have no name tags on their uniform's,they wear face coverings because they conceal their Identities(cant do that in the US). https://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/23/...drug-cartel-leader-is-captured-in-mexico.html

The reason why is that the tactic's used by the cartels as they took over the South and Central American countries was that they set up in one town after the next and took the names of the officials(mayor,chief of police,district attorneys,officers ect.) and do their "genealogies". They then know who their parents,grand parents,children,uncles,aunts ect.,, are,where they live,go to school,work ect... After they have this information they approach the officer,mayor,police chief ect. and tell them what they want them to do and not do and the cost of disobeying is slavery(human trafficking) death ect.(the millions we see killed each year by the cartels). There's no reason to change that tactic seeing it has worked in every nation so far and wouldn't make sense to change it in the US. The best action would be to quit and find another job because it would be impossible to hide everyone in your family from them. In short because the officials in the US must identify themselves as such either they will obey the cartels or endanger every member of their family trying to take action.
That's discouraging seeing the cartels are now setting up shop in America unfettered with the border wide open.

I'm wondering at what point Americans will get involved to stop the destruction of this country before it goes over the falls.
 

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That's discouraging seeing the cartels are now setting up shop in America unfettered with the border wide open.

I'm wondering at what point Americans will get involved to stop the destruction of this country before it goes over the falls.
Your using phrases like "now setting up shop" I'm in my 80's and remember Nixon talking about failures in Vietnam because of drugs then Reagan bombing cocaine fields in the 80's. It's not that their "now setting up shop in the US", they set them up years ago. If you dig on the www for news articles about Reagan and the war on drugs you'll find that after several attempt's at bombing their factories they knew that the president could authorize an air strike,,the jets would launch,fly to the factories and they were empty and evacuated before they got there(tipped off every time). It shows though how high up into a governments structure criminals have gone so for the most part it's already lost by now and why some states are legalizing marijuana(no need to smuggle it/hurts the cartels). I have come to think that the states that refuse to do the same are being instructed by the cartels to keep it illegal to boost the value and that the politicians have no choice but to agree because they already infiltrated those states officials. It makes me think "man of lawlessness,,man of sin" where criminals take the world over and the people say "who can war with the beast".