The Parable of the Ten Virgins Explained

[ewq1938]

You and your ilk

You are directing that nastiness in the wrong direction.

 

[ewq1938]

1 Thess. 5:5-6
5Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness. 6Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober

That is talking about people who are physically awake but spiritually asleep. It is not a reference to literal sleeping which all humans must have.

 

[Lafftur]

Apostle??? i don't think so

Perhaps you don’t think so because she is a woman but…judge the works…demons tremble and are cast out…and the gospel of Jesus Christ is preached and the lost are saved and captives set free…and the sick are healed…and she endures much persecution.

In the Kingdom of God there is NO male or female…in Heaven there is no giving in marriage.

There is ONE Bridegroom and ONE Bride - many membered but ONE Bride…In Christ, we are equal but ONLY because we are in Christ.

God has raised up Kathryn Krick as an Apostle to equip and minister to all believers in the Body of Christ. She is not the only one…there are many others. We need the 5 Fold Ministry.

 

[DavidTree]

Perhaps you don’t think so because she is a woman but…judge the works…demons tremble and are cast out…and the gospel of Jesus Christ is preached and the lost are saved and captives set free…and the sick are healed…and she endures much persecution.

In the Kingdom of God there is NO male or female…in Heaven there is no giving in marriage.

There is ONE Bridegroom and ONE Bride - many membered but ONE Bride…In Christ, we are equal but ONLY because we are in Christ.

God has raised up Kathryn Krick as an Apostle to equip and minister to all believers in the Body of Christ. She is not the only one…there are many others. We need the 5 Fold Ministry.

She is not an Apostle - guaranteed - but you can follow her all you wish.

Don't worry - the LORD knows what we have need of even before we ask Him.

What we don't need are more show-biz personalities, hoopla and money driven 'Apostles'.

The Kingdom of God is Righteousness and that Righteousness is found in the Word and the Holy Spirit.

God is the Head of Christ
Christ is the Head of Man
Man is the Head of the Woman

 

[Lafftur]

She is not an Apostle - guaranteed - but you can follow her all you wish.

Don't worry - the LORD knows what we have need of even before we ask Him.

What we don't need are more show-biz personalities, hoopla and money driven 'Apostles'.

The Kingdom of God is Righteousness and that Righteousness is found in the Word and the Holy Spirit.

God is the Head of Christ
Christ is the Head of Man
Man is the Head of the Woman

Only in marriage is the man head of his wife the woman but Christ is the Head of His Church- ALL BELIEVERS- there is NO male or female in His Church.

When I take a job, I come under my boss’s authority but ONLY concerning my job…NOT my faith in Jesus Christ.

When I get married, I come under my husband’s authority but ONLY concerning the marriage…NOT my faith in Christ.

ALL Believers are EQUAL in Christ- there is NO male or female. All Believers as His Church are subject directly to Christ.

 

[DavidTree]

Only in marriage is the man head of his wife the woman but Christ is the Head of His Church- ALL BELIEVERS- there is NO male or female in His Church.

When I take a job, I come under my boss’s authority but ONLY concerning my job…NOT my faith in Jesus Christ.

When I get married, I come under my husband’s authority but ONLY concerning the marriage…NOT my faith in Christ.

ALL Believers are EQUAL in Christ- there is NO male or female. All Believers as His Church are subject directly to Christ.

You seem to forget that the real Apostle - Paul - who wrote "there is no male or female" also wrote:
Now I praise you, brethren, that you remember me in all things and keep the traditions just as I delivered them to you.
3But I want you to know that the head of every man is Christ, the head of woman is man, and the head of Christ is God. 4Every man praying or prophesying, having his head covered, dishonors his head. 5But every woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head, for that is one and the same as if her head were shaved. 6For if a woman is not covered, let her also be shorn. But if it is shameful for a woman to be shorn or shaved, let her be covered. 7For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, since he is the image and glory of God; but woman is the glory of man.
For man is not from woman, but woman from man.
Nor was man created for the woman, but woman for the man.
For this reason the woman ought to have a symbol of authority on her head, because of the angels.


The LORD never chose a woman to be a 'Apostlet' - this would be contrary to Scripture from Genesis to Revelation.
Women are never to ursup authority over a man in the Church as this would be a repeat of the Serpent in the Garden.
When we put off these bodies there will be no male and female - but not until then and only then.
There is no such thing as a woman Pastor - this is sin and confusion.
A woman can be a Shepherdess and a Prophetess and is always to be clearly known as a woman/female affirmation in title.

The fact that there is such rebellion in Christianity today is another clear sign of the spirit of antichrist and the falling away.

For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, because they have itching ears, they will heap up for themselves teachers; and they will turn their ears away from the truth, and be turned aside to fables.

Satan knew exactly who to target in the Garden and we see her again riding the Dragon in Revelation.

Stay close to your husband - he is your protection and Christ is well pleased with this.

 

[Amanuensis]

The Parable of the Ten Virgins
Matthew 25:1-13
1Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom. 2And five of them were wise, and five were foolish. 3They that were foolish took their lamps, and took no oil with them: 4But the wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps. 5While the bridegroom tarried, they all slumbered and slept. 6And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him. 7Then all those virgins arose, and trimmed their lamps. 8And the foolish said unto the wise, Give us of your oil; for our lamps are gone out. 9But the wise answered, saying, Not so; lest there be not enough for us and you: but go ye rather to them that sell, and buy for yourselves. 10And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut. 11Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us. 12But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not. 13Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh.

The oil is forgiveness from God. The worthy sinner gives forgiveness to others, but people cannot give to others forgiveness from God. The Five Foolish Virgins (FFV) lost their oil (forgiveness) because they fell asleep (sinned) and wanted mercy from the Five Wise Virgins (FWV), but FWV could not give them mercy because only God gives mercy for sin.

The FWV said to the FFV, "go ye rather to them that sell, and buy for yourselves" which was a test. The FFV failed the test, rather than asking the Bridegroom (BG) for more oil and standing watch for His arrival, they left and went asking others for help. The test was to see their faith in the BG because the FFV were supposed to ask God for forgiveness from Heaven and not humans for forgiveness.

The reason the FWV were let into the marriage was because they did not fall asleep (sin) and they were waiting for the BG. The FFV should have waited for the BG to come to ask for more oil (forgiveness), but instead they went looking for forgiveness elsewhere. Mercy is a blessing from God and God will have mercy on repentant people.

The Parable of the Ten Virgins, in summary, is that Jesus will recognize forgiveness and sin. If you fall asleep then ask God for more oil. Don't go looking elsewhere for oil. Have faith in Jesus and keep watching for Him and ask forgiveness if you sin. Under no circumstances is someone supposed to stop watching for the BG or not confess their sin(s) to God.

Close enough. Much better than many other explanations. I think you said it right in the last couple of sentences. Personally I don't think it is a riddle or a mystery but a parable making a point from an example familiar to daily life in that culture at that time.

It is a parable and the message is to do what is necessary to be ready when Jesus comes so that you will not be ashamed at His coming and think that you can get ready at the last minute as it will be too late for that. I think people make too much of the objects like the oil and the lamp or the Bride, which is not even in the parable. Jesus could have used many different parables with different objects and details to teach the same lesson. AND HE DID. Which is why I think it is a mistake to focus on what the oil represents.

If someone is not ready, the are not abiding in the teachings of Christ and therefore they are not really His disciples in truth. Trusting your association with your church or those friends who truly are ready ( ready = they do the teachings of Christ) will not help you. Do we know of people who seem to live like that? Yes. Many. There lamps are empty but they entertain the idea that somehow they will be accepted. Even thinking that their ignorance will some how give them a pass. How many think they will be able to say "I didn't know" as an excuse?

Jesus gave several parables that reveal different facets of how people deceive themselves into a false sense of "preparation" for the coming of the Lord. The wedding garment is another eye opener. It reveals how some will think they can ignore the requirements as if He could not possibly be that strict. There are doctrines galore that have lulled hypocrites to sleep thinking they will be allowed in even though they are ignoring the teachings of Christ.

 

[Absolutely]

The 144,000 are all the Jews who repent, seen HERE...... Zechariah 13:8 And it shall come to pass, that in all the land, saith the Lord, two parts therein shall be cut off and die; but the third shall be left therein.

9 And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, The Lord is my God.

And here.......Rev. 12:14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent. 15 And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood. 16 And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth.

That is why they are seen with Jesus at his return, they are The Wheat. The Gentile Church ae the Barley. The Barley doesn't need to be CRUSHED in order to be sifted, Wheat dos have to be crushed first. Thus Rev. 14, is the Harvest Chapter. We see the Wheat with Jesus at his return, we have a FLASHBACK to the Barley (Rev. 14:14) Rapture of the Church which is pre-trib, and needs not to be crushed to be sifted. Lastly, we have the Grape Harvest of the Wicked in verses 17-20. The word tribulation comes from a Greek word that calls a machine that crushes the Wheat the TRIBULINE that is because Wheat has to be crushed before it can e sifted, that is why God calls Israel the Wheat. They have to go through the 70th-week tribulation before they will repent (they are thus CRUSHED, and then sifted).



Now reread Gal. 3 and think JUST TE OPPOSITE of what you know to think, that is what Paul was actually teaching the Galatians. They wanted to act like Jews because someone had taught them you have to observe God like the Jews in order to get to heaven, don't believe me, go reread it. He starts out, WHO HAS BEWITCHED YOU, that starting out in the Faith, you have now returned ut the Fesh (trying to earn your way to heaven via THE LAW) Then Paul goes into all the reasoning why the Law can not save us and only faith can save is. He reminds them that the original covenant was not the Law but was the Promise !! Then he asks, why was the Law given? And he explains, because of sin, but once Jesus (the Promise) come there is now no need of the Law, the Law was a schoolmaster to bring us unto the Promise, but once the Promised Messiah has come we no longer have need of the Law, because we are justified by faith alone.

So, when Paul says here is neither Jew nor Greek, Male nor Female, neither Slave nor Freeman, he's not saying that all In Christ are one per se (even though we are) he is making just the opposite point as you and others pull out of this chapter, he's chastising the Galatians for thinking they have to observe the LAWS like the Jews in order to make it to heaven (this is why he mentions them leaving the faith and living BY FLESH at the start of the chapter)

So, at the very end, he's not trying to say Jews and Gentiles are all one because of Faith, he's saying to the Galatians just the opposite, we are all the same via our FAITH, so stop tryi g to be like the Jews who serve the Law. Hes not saying the Jews and Gentiles are the same as called by God, we know that is not true, the Gentiles have a TIME allotted to them (the time of the Gentiles) and the Jews go through the 70th week after the Rapture, they are the Wheat, we are the Barley. So, while ot is true that we all come unto Christ the exact same way, we d0n;t do it at the same time per se. Some Jews come unto Christ and are ruptured with us, but most come unto Christ after the start of the 70th week (3-5 million).

The key that lets us know Paul is not saying that the Jews and Gentiles are all seen as the exact same entities are the mention of the Males and Females, none of us see that as Paul saying there are now no Male nor Females, thus he's also not saying there are no Jews nor Gentiles, he's saying that in God's eyes we DO NOT HAVE to serve the Law like Jews in order to make it to Heaven, thus Paul chastises them for thinking they have to become "Jews" in order to find favor with God.

So, the whole chapter you cite is not Paul tryi g to say there are now no Jews or Gentiles, he's simply telling these Gentile Galatians, HEY GUYS, stop trying to earn your way to heaven by serving the Law as the Jews do, go back unto what we taught you, lie by FAITH ALONE.

What did the 144k repent of?
Where did you find that?

Rev 14 is in no way 1 thes 4.
In no way.

 

[Absolutely]

You totally missed what you just cited right there, when Jesus returns, the Jews will then utter "Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord" thus they are saved by Faith BEFORE Jesus returns.

Why do the 2/3 get CUT OFF and die if the Jews don't repent before the 2nd Coming? That is because the 1/3 who repent then flee Judea and go to the Mountainous area of Petra/Bozrah.

The 144,000 are a CODE just like the Woman, just like the New Jerusalem is not 144,000 cubits, that just means the COMPLETE New Jerusalem. One day yu guys will understand how God uses CODES and NUBMERS.

the 144k are firstfruits.
That is factored into it.

 

[Absolutely]

Close enough. Much better than many other explanations. I think you said it right in the last couple of sentences. Personally I don't think it is a riddle or a mystery but a parable making a point from an example familiar to daily life in that culture at that time.

It is a parable and the message is to do what is necessary to be ready when Jesus comes so that you will not be ashamed at His coming and think that you can get ready at the last minute as it will be too late for that. I think people make too much of the objects like the oil and the lamp or the Bride, which is not even in the parable. Jesus could have used many different parables with different objects and details to teach the same lesson. AND HE DID. Which is why I think it is a mistake to focus on what the oil represents.

If someone is not ready, the are not abiding in the teachings of Christ and therefore they are not really His disciples in truth. Trusting your association with your church or those friends who truly are ready ( ready = they do the teachings of Christ) will not help you. Do we know of people who seem to live like that? Yes. Many. There lamps are empty but they entertain the idea that somehow they will be accepted. Even thinking that their ignorance will some how give them a pass. How many think they will be able to say "I didn't know" as an excuse?

Jesus gave several parables that reveal different facets of how people deceive themselves into a false sense of "preparation" for the coming of the Lord. The wedding garment is another eye opener. It reveals how some will think they can ignore the requirements as if He could not possibly be that strict. There are doctrines galore that have lulled hypocrites to sleep thinking they will be allowed in even though they are ignoring the teachings of Christ.

Re read it.
Everytime it says "oil" insert " "forgiveness".

Does not even begin to fit.

 

[Absolutely]

I don't know. I still think sleeping has something to do with sin and oil is related to something else other than God's Holy Spirit. This probably comes from my firmly-held belief that God does not withdraw His Holy Spirit from believers in Christ. Making the oil the Holy Spirit that can be lost and refilled opens up some rather questionable doctrines.

Consider 1 Thessalonians 5.

"Sleeping" is an activity for children of the night or those in darkness. Contrasted those who stay awake in the day and remain sober. Sleeping seems to be sin.

1 Thess. 5:5-6
5Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness. 6Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober

the wise slept and were not sinning.

So no, that does not fit.

 

[Absolutely]

Thanks dude!

That is spot on!!!

Every word true and similar to my own experience

 

[Absolutely]

I agree. Going out at midnight to buy something sounds like people who are marked and can buy or sell during the great tribulation. The 5 foolish virgins are Christians that commit the Apostasy Paul wrote about.

That is not in the story

 

[Absolutely]

Sorry, I can't agree regarding this parable. Sleeping isn't the issue. The lack of enough oil is the issue.





False faith can be. Either way, what they bought did not change the bridegrooms mind.




Thanks.

Where does it say they bought?

 

[Absolutely]

I’m Robert52 the author of the new novel, The Passover Revelation: Love Conquers All. The novel is about the missing eighteen years of the life of Jesus in England.

Now many have seen this challenge before:
”When Jesus “ died “ on the cross, did he die as “ God” or as a man?
if you say that he died as a man- then his death is invalid to us- because it’s written that no man can bear the iniquity of another.
If he “ died” as “ God” then that is blasphemy because God can never die.”
Now rabbis and Muslims use this enigma to trip up believers. Their goal is to cause a believer make statement that will bring up contradictions… making the story of Jesus full of inconsistencies.
They have said, “ Can one really believe the story of Jesus if it’s full of conflict? There is no truth in incongruity.”

But the Bible gives a simple answer to the paradox. Who remembers the answer to the Jesus mystery?

All men are spirit soul and body.
Triune.

No man dies totally.
The spirit continues on.

Jesus died on the cross.

It had to be God on the cross.

Only God could resurrect.

 

[DavidTree]

I’m Robert52 the author of the new novel, The Passover Revelation: Love Conquers All. The novel is about the missing eighteen years of the life of Jesus in England.

Now many have seen this challenge before:
”When Jesus “ died “ on the cross, did he die as “ God” or as a man?
if you say that he died as a man- then his death is invalid to us- because it’s written that no man can bear the iniquity of another.
If he “ died” as “ God” then that is blasphemy because God can never die.”
Now rabbis and Muslims use this enigma to trip up believers. Their goal is to cause a believer make statement that will bring up contradictions… making the story of Jesus full of inconsistencies.
They have said, “ Can one really believe the story of Jesus if it’s full of conflict? There is no truth in incongruity.”

But the Bible gives a simple answer to the paradox. Who remembers the answer to the Jesus mystery?

JESUS died as God in a Man = Immanuel = God with us

 

[Runningman]

the wise slept and were not sinning.

So no, that does not fit.

Other verses command believers to not sleep, but watch. So yes sleeping is a sin.

Mark 13:36-37
36Lest coming suddenly he find you sleeping. 37And what I say unto you I say unto all, Watch.

Romans 13:11
11And that, knowing the time, that now it is high time to awake out of sleep: for now is our salvation nearer than when we believed.

Ephesians 5:14
14Wherefore he saith, Awake thou that sleepest, and arise from the dead, and Christ shall give thee light.

1 Thessalonians 5:6
6Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober. 7For they that sleep sleep in the night; and they that be drunken are drunken in the night.

 

[Runningman]

Re read it.
Everytime it says "oil" insert " "forgiveness".

Does not even begin to fit.

That's because it's a parable. Kind of like literally sleeping is not a problem because sleeping is normal. This is how figurative language works in parables, but some things can be literal. Wisdom and prayer is required to interpret this since no literal explanation is offered.

 

[Runningman]

Also notice if you replace "oil" with "Holy Spirit" in the parable, then read the plain text, it doesn't really make sense. Again, a parable is a story used to give spiritual lessons. It requires interpretation.

 

[Rondonmon]

Error #1 - "the Church is in heaven at that time"

This will go in one ear and out the other, or like most of you, you will ignore it and make the same illogical statement 1000 more times, but here goes (cover your eyes and say, na na na na na na na na na na na na).

The Church is CLEARLY SEEN in heaven BEFORE the Seals are ever opened by Jesus during the 70th week.

Rev. 2:10 Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life.

Rev. 3:5 He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.

Rev. 3:21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.

Rev. 4:1 is THE RAPTURE, the Feast of Trumps always ended the Summer Harvest (Church Age) thus the LAST TRUMP is not a Revelation Judgment, it is the Trumpet of Jesus ending the Church Age Harvest of souls by saying come up here........ Thus Jesus sounds like a Trumpet, which means he ends the Rapture by calling the Church up to heaven.

Rev. 4:1 After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, Come up hither, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter.

Now we get to see the Church in Heaven BEFORE the Seals are ever opened by Jesus !!

Rev. 4:4 And round about the throne were four and twenty seats: and upon the seats I saw four and twenty elders sitting, clothed in white raiment; and they had on their heads crowns of gold.

Why is this so hard to decipher for you post-trib or mid-trib guys? Rev. 2:10, Rev. 3:5, and 3:21 all three describe the OVERCOMERS who are Faithful unto death !!

Rev. 1 is Jesus as seen in all of his Glory by the Disciple (The things which you HAVE SEEN)

Rev. 2 is Jesus speaking unto the 7 Churches and 7 always equals completion, thus the 7 Churches = The Church Age or the full 2000 some odd year Church Age period we are in now (The things WHICH ARE)

Rev. 4:1 states it very clearly for you if you will LISTEN !! Jesus said come up here and I will show you the things WHICH MUST BE HEREAFTER. (Meaning the 70th-week Judgments soon to fall on mankind AFTER the Rapture)

Why is this so hard to decipher? Because you already (think) you know everything but you don't. And that's no slap at anyone, God specifically chastised me about 5 years ago when I asked in prayer, after 30 years of service, why Lord are there so many interpretations of the 144,000, the Harlot, Babylon, the Beast, etc., etc. I got this from the Holy Spirit "Ron, you guys already know it all" So, don't go all overboard, if the Lord can tell me we think we know it all, and that is why we, IN ESSENCE, can't receive or learn from God then it's not just about me but about the whole Church. I changed, now I do hear His voice in every instance because I do not ASSUME my old thoughts on anything are correct, I simply ask God to show me when anything is not clear, and He always does. We can affirm this again in Rev. 5:9, we see the Church in Heaven and they sing Worthy is the Lamb to OPEN the Sealed Scroll, and that he has REDEEMED US BY HIS BLOOD !!

Rev. 5:9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;

So, the Church is seen here IN HEAVEN, just before Jesus opens the 7 Sealed Scroll of Judgments. And no one is in Heaven until the Rapture, 1 Cor. 15 CLEARY STATES that the Dead in Christ ARISE at the Rapture, and we who are alive are then CHANGED and then we all go to Heaven to be with the Lord. Those seen in Rev. 7 can not be Martyrs from the 70th-week tribulation, because no one who dies during the 70th week will go unto Heaven, they remain on earth and are raised up at Jesus' Second Coming, so says the Scriptures, SO................ those seen in Rev. 7:9-17 are the Raptured Church, they can not be the 70th-week Martyrs, and I can PROVE IT !! With Scriptures.

Below is where many of you make your fatal mistake, something I stopped doing because now I realize God wants to teach us IF we stop thinking we already know it all (we don't). Thus anytime something doesn't fully jibe, don't just accept it as TRUTH, ask God to show you in full because God gives us NO CONTRADICTIONS, we create them.

Rev. 7:13 And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they? 14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

So, people see this above and just ASSUME (WRONGLY) that these people seen here came out f the 70th-week tribulation that is called GREAT here, but when we put it all together, the bible states EMPHATICALLY that this can not be true, so something had to give, so instead of just accepting the NORM, I asked God why the Contradiction. And by looking for the REASONINGS instead of just accepting this as factual, I got the answer. Here are the verses that show these people CAN NOT be from the 70th-week Great Tribulation.

The 5th Seal

Rev. 6:9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held: 10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth? 11 And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.

So, those Martyrs killed during the 70th week want VENGEANCE on those people still living ON EARTH who killed them during this 70th week Anti-Christ reign, but Jesus gives them their White Robes and tells them to be patient, they MUST WAIT, until ALL of their fellow brothers have been killed in like manner as they were (by this Anti-Christ Beast who has 42 months of rule over this earth and the saints, to do as he so pleases). So, those seen in Rev. 7:9-17 CAN NOT be those Martyrs seen here, they MUST WAIT until the Beasts rule is over sir. Want more proof? See BELOW:

Rev. 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

So, those who are Martyred during the 70th-week are judged when? After the Second Coming. and they specifically REIGN on this earth with Jesus for 1000 years !! So, according to the 5th Seal AND this Rev. 20:4 scripture, those seen in Rev. 7:9-17 CAN NOT be any of the 70th-week Martyrs !! So, how can that be? Why the contraction? Because we men caused this SNAFU by mandating that God can only use the word GREAT as an adjective on ONE THING, the 70th-week tribulation, God can't describe the 2000 some odd yer Church Age as GREATER in length than the 7 Year or 70th week tribulation, no, we as men can not allow God to describe anything as GREAT except the 70th week, LOL. This is why people can't see God's full truths, as He (Holy Spirit) explained this to me.

Those seen in Rev. 7:9-17 can only be from the 2000 some odd year GREAT TRIBULATION PERIOD is in 2000>7 as in 2000 years is greater than 7 years, in spite of men's protestations, that is a FACTOID. That actually FITS, those seen in Rev. 7:9-17 being from the 70th week DOS NOT NOT FIT, as I have shown, now people can close their eyes and say na na na na na all they want to, I am correct on this because I rooted out the truth via the guidance of the Holy Spirit. But of course, if it makes MEN WRONG....by all means, na na na na na I see NOTHING NOTHING !!