Donald Trump is part of the occult

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JTB

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You obviously have discernment issues and I suggest you get on your knees and pray in Jesus name for some.
Reeeeaaaaly now. Because I refuse to buy into Trumps Big Lie I have discernment issues.

Right back atcha buddy. Anyone who buys into Trump's lies has no discernment at all.

And no, I don't support Brandon.
 

Handyman62

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Reeeeaaaaly now. Because I refuse to buy into Trumps Big Lie I have discernment issues.

Right back atcha buddy. Anyone who buys into Trump's lies has no discernment at all.

And no, I don't support Brandon.
What lies do you think I bought into?
 

JTB

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What lies do you think I bought into?
Look, I don't want to fight and argue with you brother. My apologies for provoking you.

So let me say this.

I totally get abandoning the sins of the left. Immorality, abandonment of personal responsibility, enablement of the lazy, abortion, a/poly-theism... No, Christians shouldn't have anything to do with those, they're against Biblical principals. And Jehovah God Himself.

But there's this lie, this deception, this mindset that if you abandon one side, you MUST embrace the other side. It's the American way. It's one or the other.

And to embrace the right, one must turn a blind eye to their equally egregious sins. Mammon worship. Self idolatry. Greed. Cheating workers. Abandonment of the sick and poor. Lies and deceit. Those aren't promoted in the Bible either.

And if you don't discern the sins of the right, then maybe you my friend need to pray with a more open mind.

But what concerns me is that only one of these two sides couches their actions as being "of God". And as such they are the more deceptive, because they are fooling the faithful and deceiving them. And leading them from the Truth.

This country will fall to the antichrist. God proclaimed it. An no one on the left OR right is going to change that. They are all leading us down the merry path to tribulation.

And anyone who follows them - left or right - is being being deceived and led astray.
 

ZNP

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Look, I don't want to fight and argue with you brother. My apologies for provoking you.

So let me say this.

I totally get abandoning the sins of the left. Immorality, abandonment of personal responsibility, enablement of the lazy, abortion, a/poly-theism... No, Christians shouldn't have anything to do with those, they're against Biblical principals. And Jehovah God Himself.

But there's this lie, this deception, this mindset that if you abandon one side, you MUST embrace the other side. It's the American way. It's one or the other.

And to embrace the right, one must turn a blind eye to their equally egregious sins. Mammon worship. Self idolatry. Greed. Cheating workers. Abandonment of the sick and poor. Lies and deceit. Those aren't promoted in the Bible either.

And if you don't discern the sins of the right, then maybe you my friend need to pray with a more open mind.

But what concerns me is that only one of these two sides couches their actions as being "of God". And as such they are the more deceptive, because they are fooling the faithful and deceiving them. And leading them from the Truth.

This country will fall to the antichrist. God proclaimed it. An no one on the left OR right is going to change that. They are all leading us down the merry path to tribulation.

And anyone who follows them - left or right - is being being deceived and led astray.
I agree with your underlying point. I am not for Trump, I am for election integrity. I don't care if Biden or Trump won, what I care about is the US Constitution. If 70% of the US population is not sure if the elections are rigged that to me is a major problem and the only way to resolve it is to do full forensic audits of the election in each state. So I support that. I don't care one way or the other if it is Trump or Biden, but I do care that we know the truth. It is knowing the truth that will set us free.

The same is true of the Durham investigation. I am sick of hearing how Trump is playing 4d chess. What I want is for the investigation to get to the bottom of the corruption, indict the criminals and lets prosecute them.

The same is true of the Jan 6th "insurrection". I want it investigated thoroughly. If some people in this country see it as a truly terrible event on the same scale as Pearl Harbor then by all means lets get to the bottom of it and find out. I am bothered that the prisoners are being treated as political prisoners and their rights seem to be abused and the penalties seem to have no relation to the crime and the accusations made in the press appear to be totally baseless and unfounded. I am also bothered that those who seem most responsible have some kind of free pass while those who appear to be stooges are being crucified.

The same is true of Kyle Rittenhouse. Don't know him, have no skin in this game, however, I would like a fair trial, I support his right to the presumption of innocence until proven guilty, and once again I feel like I have been lied to repeatedly by everyone on the governments side of this case.
 

saintrose

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Donald Trump did not really want to be president again and his presidency was all a role to be able to change the governmental format and cause harmony between people.

Trump played the bad guy on purpose so he could cause Republicans and Democrats to fight with each other and cause dissension, and chaos, and violence between them because it was all part of his plan.

Trump told United Nations that America laid a path of peace and security and wants the nations to step it up and work for peace like America, and said the United Nations should take more of a role in the world.

He said he wants a global government but would like it patterned after America where the nations thrive next to each other and keep their sovereignty.

The only way a global government will work is if all people are equal social status wise, and all division is taken away between them, and a balance between communism and democracy, and a balance between atheism and spirituality which is the new age movement interpretation of the Bible and religions(1 Timothy 4:1-5; 2 Timothy 4:2-4).

179 nations agreed to United Nations Agenda 21 in 1992 which is sustainability, economics, ecology, and social, and to ban the police and the citizens become the police force and fight crime because police and citizen is a division.

The United Nations wants a global government by 2030 and Donald Trump is for the global government, and knows how it must operate.

Donald Trump wanted to cause as much dissension between the two parties as possible according to his plan.

Black lives matter was pushing a socialist, Democrat, liberal agenda, and Agenda 21 with equality, and defund the police, and sustainability.

The Republicans, conservatives started buying guns and ammunition because they thought there might be a civil war.

There was fighting in the government more than in the past, and they thought Trump was arrogant, crazy, and obnoxious, but that is what he wanted them to think for it was all part of his plan.

Donald Trump was a Democrat but became a Republican president for he could use that party to be the most violent, and aggressive, for they are patriots, will fight to defend the constitution, and more apt to have guns.

It was the best party to choose according to his plan to cause dissension and fighting between the two parties.

Trump played the bad guy on purpose according to his plan to cause as much fighting as possible between the two parties that would escalate so much that people would be against the fighting and want a change, and be tired of Republican and Democrat.

Trump wants to start a new party called the Patriot Party and that was his plan to be president and cause chaos and then start a new party that would have Republican and Democrats coming to it that has a balance between the two parties eventually causing Republican and Democrat to phase out and bring the people together with one party.

Trump is going to have a new party that will be compatible with how the global government will operate in the future because he wants a global government and he knows how it has to operate for the nations to come together, and causing America to be stronger and more of an influence in the world.

Trump sacrificed his character to be the bad guy and will end up being the good guy and restoring his character as he tries to harmonize the Republicans and Democrats with a balance between them.

The new age movement will pave the way to the beast kingdom in Revelation 13.

Trump is following the new age movement plan and they do not believe the New Age Christ will help them to establish peace and evolve to be spiritual until the nations come together as one to work for peace on earth and Trump is working on that.

The New Age Christ will establish peace in the Middle East and will work in the world as a great man of peace, and the greatest influence in the world, and will push the agenda of the new age movement until the world rebels against God.

Trump pushes for peace in the Middle East more than any other president and made his son in law Jared Kushner senior advisor, and in charge of negotiating peace between the Jews and Palestinians, and he goes by the Kabbalah which is an occult interpretation of the Old Testament where the new age movement has an occult interpretation of the Bible.

Which Jared bought a building with the address 666 Fifth Street in Manhattan, New York, for he knows the significance of numbers in the occult.

The occult believes in the power of numbers and the timing, adding, and grouping of numbers that give them more power through nature which 6 is the number of a man, or the soul of a man, so the number 666, a triple 6, means more power through nature.

Donald Trump is part of the occult and is going about to implement the new age movement plan to have a global government and produce the New Age Christ, antichrist, which they believe he will establish peace in the world, and cause them to evolve to be spiritual which they believe Jesus evolved to be an ascended master but not Lord and Savior.

666 is 3 words Chi Xi Stigma, which Stigma is something placed under the skin for identification, and service to the antichrist.

Trump introduced a biometric system for people on temporary visas that can track them and said if they had that in place 911 could of been avoided.

The purpose of Donald Trump was to cause fighting between Republican and Democrat and then start a new party which both parties would be a part of it which is a balance between the two parties that will be compatible with how the global government will operate in the future, and to make America more of an influence in the world.

Trump will look like the good guy, apologize for his actions as president, and restore his character, and the Republican party and Democrat party will both lessen in influence until there is only the Patriot Party and the people as one.

On the back of the dollar bill announcing the conception of a new order of the ages, and out of many, one.

They had to get them away from the attitude of the 1950's by disrupting the 1960's which they wanted the counter culture movement, and taking prayer out of school and teaching evolution because to them evolution is religion and they are still evolving to be spiritual and there is no personal God.

Evolution caused them to interpret the Bible and religions differently.

1.Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
2.Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
3.Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
4.For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:
5.For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer(1 Timothy 4:1-5).

God warns the saints of the new age movement, and their interpretation of the Bible based on the occult, and evolution, and people are still evolving to be spiritual provided by the New Age Christ, and Jesus is not Lord and Savior, but a good teacher and love, and the Christ conscience came upon him, and he evolved to be an ascended master, and believe in no personal God, but honor the God of forces, or the power of nature as their higher power, the evolutionary process, and the New Age Christ is the final teacher, and they believe the Christ conscience will come upon him, and he will evolve to be greater than Jesus, and share this power with all people who follow him.

They will forbid to marry for a man and a woman for population reduction, and command to abstain from meats, reverence of nature, mother earth.

2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables(2 Timothy 4:2-4).

The time will come when the world will not want to hear the truth of the Bible, but want to hear it according to their own lusts the new age movement.

Donald Trump is part of the new age movement the occult and evolution.

Democrat and Republican are working together at this point so Trump will have both parties joining his new party.

Trump is elite. I doubt he tried to do anything; the people who are put in office follow the plans of their masters the bankers. Even Roosevelt said "Presidents aren't elected they're selected."

I'm vegan - I can't stand even the smell of meat cooking. Yuck. I love animals and don't believe we're to eat them. But I do believe people are not enduring sound doctrine. The church is a mess right now. Many pastors should be speaking against wrong but it's only a few who are. Christians are not being the salt. We have no savior in the White House like many hoped for - We The People have to all do our part.

Look at what's being taught in schools. It's dizzying. Where are all the believers? Sitting in their homes watching Netflix and waiting for the Rapture?

God help us.
 

Handyman62

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#87
Look, I don't want to fight and argue with you brother. My apologies for provoking you.

So let me say this.

I totally get abandoning the sins of the left. Immorality, abandonment of personal responsibility, enablement of the lazy, abortion, a/poly-theism... No, Christians shouldn't have anything to do with those, they're against Biblical principals. And Jehovah God Himself.

But there's this lie, this deception, this mindset that if you abandon one side, you MUST embrace the other side. It's the American way. It's one or the other.

And to embrace the right, one must turn a blind eye to their equally egregious sins. Mammon worship. Self idolatry. Greed. Cheating workers. Abandonment of the sick and poor. Lies and deceit. Those aren't promoted in the Bible either.

And if you don't discern the sins of the right, then maybe you my friend need to pray with a more open mind.

But what concerns me is that only one of these two sides couches their actions as being "of God". And as such they are the more deceptive, because they are fooling the faithful and deceiving them. And leading them from the Truth.

This country will fall to the antichrist. God proclaimed it. An no one on the left OR right is going to change that. They are all leading us down the merry path to tribulation.

And anyone who follows them - left or right - is being being deceived and led astray.
I see Trump for what he is. I also see the Republicans & Democrats for what they are. And I would take the legitimately elected President Donald John Trump over anybody else in Washington despite all of his flaws.

You would think given the commander and thief or thief's in the white house that more people would have woken up (no pun intended) to just how much better he was compared to what we have now. And if people can't see that then what other blatantly obvious thing are they missing?

T.D.S. is still alive and well. :sick:
 

JTB

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I agree with your underlying point. I am not for Trump, I am for election integrity. I don't care if Biden or Trump won, what I care about is the US Constitution. If 70% of the US population is not sure if the elections are rigged that to me is a major problem and the only way to resolve it is to do full forensic audits of the election in each state. So I support that. I don't care one way or the other if it is Trump or Biden, but I do care that we know the truth. It is knowing the truth that will set us free.

The same is true of the Durham investigation. I am sick of hearing how Trump is playing 4d chess. What I want is for the investigation to get to the bottom of the corruption, indict the criminals and lets prosecute them.

The same is true of the Jan 6th "insurrection". I want it investigated thoroughly. If some people in this country see it as a truly terrible event on the same scale as Pearl Harbor then by all means lets get to the bottom of it and find out. I am bothered that the prisoners are being treated as political prisoners and their rights seem to be abused and the penalties seem to have no relation to the crime and the accusations made in the press appear to be totally baseless and unfounded. I am also bothered that those who seem most responsible have some kind of free pass while those who appear to be stooges are being crucified.

The same is true of Kyle Rittenhouse. Don't know him, have no skin in this game, however, I would like a fair trial, I support his right to the presumption of innocence until proven guilty, and once again I feel like I have been lied to repeatedly by everyone on the governments side of this case.
The question is, if these investigations arrive at a conclusion that is different than what you believe, will you be willing to accept it?

For a very large part of the population, I believe that answer is NO. They won't accept ANY answer that doesn't confirm their pre-existing belief.
 
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Been asking God for more confirmation on DONALD TRUMP BEJNG THE ANTI-CHRIST.. I asked him to give me dreams a while ago of ciggaretts if he wanted me to quit and he gave me 3 soon after and many more dreams he has spoken to me in recently.... Literally yesterday I asked Him if this Donald Trump theory I have is really true even tho I have.many many confirmations about it and scripture I wanted more.. asked him to give me ANOTHER dream about trump yesterday... Just woke up in my dream was" DONALD TRUMP" and the words "comes at the 6th Trump" (Jesus comes at the 7th and that's scripturAl) .... Sorry shaking while writing this so lots of typos oh well .. if anyone on here if you love trump and or voted for him... God wants you to repent NOW. That's why I died the day I voted for the man in 2016 when my dad asks me too an di said ok whatever. I unknowingly voted for Satan and so did you. Repent to God ask him for forgiveneas and ask him to give you more confirmation asking if what im saying is true and I promise you he will.... Sharing this cause that's what a watchman in the Bible is supposed to do if they don't share what God has showed them then alll the people I failed to share it with their blood will be on my hands according to scripture so simply obeying the Lord I do NOT care who a thinks I'm crazy....


And not to mention this confirmation Eric Metaxes tweeted a while ago "is there anyone like unto him?" Plus I don't know if you remember the "snake poem video" where Trump is reading some poem about a snake saying "you knew I was a snake before you took me in" Click the thumbnail. I don't lie don't have time to make stuff up.

comedic relief :LOL::ROFL::LOL::ROFL:

better hope God does not give you a dream about Nebuchadnezzar

actually, the dark lord is happy to give us things God would not bestow

you ain't no watchman dude
 

JTB

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The question is, if these investigations arrive at a conclusion that is different than what you believe, will you be willing to accept it?

For a very large part of the population, I believe that answer is NO. They won't accept ANY answer that doesn't confirm their pre-existing belief.
Every judge this has been set before, including many appointed by Trump, have said he has no case. But people won't accept that.

Trump's DOJ, headed by one of his closest friends and advisors, told him he has no case. But people won't accept that.

Many of Trump's closest allies have told him he has no case. But people won't accept that.

Every state investigation, even one bought and paid for by the right and performed by a by a biased right leaning company, has said he didn't win. But people won't accept that.

And it's not just on this issue. Trump has come out several times and said the vaccine is safe and people should get it. But even his most ardent followers won't accept even that, from the horse's mouth.

People want to confirm what they already believe. And they REFUSE to consider anything different, no matter what the source is.
 

Billyd

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There are two evils that have taken over our country.

Trump Derangement Syndrome (TDS) - Trump is the devil and he is destroying the country. He can do no right.

Trump Worship Syndrome (TWS) - Trump is the man God sent to save this country. He can do no wrong.

I would love to see the people who love this country, distance themselves as far away from Trump as the east is from the west.
 

ZNP

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The question is, if these investigations arrive at a conclusion that is different than what you believe, will you be willing to accept it?

For a very large part of the population, I believe that answer is NO. They won't accept ANY answer that doesn't confirm their pre-existing belief.
No, I don't see that as a question. The idea that we don't tell people the truth because "you can't handle the truth" is simply good dialogue in a movie but not good policy.
 

ZNP

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I would love to see the people who love this country, distance themselves as far away from Trump as the east is from the west.
Personally I think the people who said they would leave the country if Trump were elected need to honor that and leave. By not leaving it makes all those trump haters look like liars.
 
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SophieT

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There are two evils that have taken over our country.

Trump Derangement Syndrome (TDS) - Trump is the devil and he is destroying the country. He can do no right.

Trump Worship Syndrome (TWS) - Trump is the man God sent to save this country. He can do no wrong.

I would love to see the people who love this country, distance themselves as far away from Trump as the east is from the west.

basically just one evil

don't give all the credit to human beings
 
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SophieT

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Personally I think the people who said they would leave the country if Trump were elected need to honor that and leave. By not leaving it makes all those trump haters look like liars.
hey yah know? if someone tells you who they are, believe them

plenty of lying on both sides and down the middle to go around though
 

JTB

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No, I don't see that as a question. The idea that we don't tell people the truth because "you can't handle the truth" is simply good dialogue in a movie but not good policy.
These days, you can tell people the truth till you're blue in the face. If it doesn't match what they believe, they WILL deny it.
 

JTB

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Personally I think the people who said they would leave the country if Trump were elected need to honor that and leave. By not leaving it makes all those trump haters look like liars.
Just like those who said they'd leave if Obummer was elected... and Bush W, and Clinton... people have been making that false promise for a long time now.
 

ZNP

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These days, you can tell people the truth till you're blue in the face. If it doesn't match what they believe, they WILL deny it.
That's not true, 10 months ago about 30% didn't think the election was legitimate, now we are at 70%. It is a gradual process.