Vaccination?

  • Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.

    If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!

    To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.

If a Christian gets vaccinated for the covid Is this a lack of faith?

  • Getting the vaccination means the Christian lacks faith.

  • Getting the vaccination demonstrates love thy neighbor.

  • Other,I will explain.


Results are only viewable after voting.
Status
Not open for further replies.

Aidan1

Well-known member
Mar 17, 2021
1,680
705
113
Thousands march in New York City against COVID vaccine mandate
Thousands of New Yorkers marched through the city on Saturday to protest mandatory COVID-19 vaccinations, joining millions of others around the planet who also took to the streets as part of a “World Wide Rally For Freedom” in opposition to global medical tyranny.

Chanting “We the people will not comply!” they carried American and Gadsden (“Don’t tread on me”) flags, and signs and banners expressing heartfelt messages:
  • Medical choice is a human right
  • Mandates are unethical & unscientific
  • Let My Dad Work 
  • Truth is treason in an empire of lies
  • I am informed, I do not consent
  • I choose natural immunity 
  • Medical freedom now 
  • Want to live in a free country or not?
  • Stop the mandate before it’s too late!
  • I am one of the 80 million and I will never comply
  • Airline crew will not comply
  • The real virus is communism 
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/t...mandate/?utm_source=top_news&utm_campaign=usa

While millions are protesting worldwide, a handful of COVID tyrants are simply ignoring them. So the solution is really a military one -- swift elimination of the criminals by whatever means they see fit. The courts will do nothing to uphold the guaranteed constitutional freedoms. The militaries are supposedly there to protect citizens from domestic enemies (as much as foreign enemies).
Show me this millions demostrantes worldwide. A minority wants dominate the majority.
How far goes Personal freedom? On the cost of others?
I know Personal freedom is a high value, but it ends at the beginning of right for the other.

F.e. An german unvaccined midwife recently infects a mother and Baby while she gave birth to the child.

We faced since the beginning of the Pandemie that people ignore what the goverment says to protect themselves and others from the virus.
And we face the higest infection rate since beginning of the Pandemie.
We have a letalrate of 0,8 % of the infection rate. Today we have over 45000 infections( this are 13000 more then last tuesday) that means 360 people will definatly die.
You folks have nothing to do then attacking to help these people. Seperation and vaccation is the only way to protect from a virus. I doubt that you would use your arguments when the covid virus would have the letality of the ebola virus.
 

Aidan1

Well-known member
Mar 17, 2021
1,680
705
113
Show me this millions demostrantes worldwide. A minority wants dominate the majority.
How far goes Personal freedom? On the cost of others?
I know Personal freedom is a high value, but it ends at the beginning of right for the other.

F.e. An german unvaccined midwife recently infects a mother and Baby while she gave birth to the child.

We faced since the beginning of the Pandemie that people ignore what the goverment says to protect themselves and others from the virus.
And we face the higest infection rate since beginning of the Pandemie.
We have a letalrate of 0,8 % of the infection rate. Today we have over 45000 infections( this are 13000 more then last tuesday) that means 360 people will definatly die.
You folks have nothing to do then attacking to help these people. Seperation and vaccation is the only way to protect from a virus. I doubt that you would use your arguments when the covid virus would have the letality of the ebola virus.
I have to correct, the letality rate 1,8 so 810 will die.
 

Nehemiah6

Senior Member
Jul 18, 2017
26,074
13,777
113
Colin powel died of complication due due to covid and the cancer he had, He did not die because he took the vaccine
As if you really know the truth (which began to be covered up almost immediately).

So here is another truth bomb you should be aware of:
FDA files: 26,000 'nervous system disorders' from Pfizer vaccine in first 2.5 months

"The documentation was obtained in a Freedom of Information lawsuit filed a group called Public Health and Medical Professionals for Transparency, comprised of more than 30 professors and scientists from universities including Yale, Harvard, UCLA and Brown".
https://www.wnd.com/2021/11/fda-fil...em-disorders-pfizer-vaccine-first-2-5-months/

According to you and others here, these scientists and professors are all paranoid conspiracy theorists, and Pfizer should be awarded handsomely for its murderous vaccine. But there are thousands of ethical medical doctors who are totally opposed to the COVID tyranny that has been established worldwide.
 
E

eternally-gratefull

Guest
As if you really know the truth (which began to be covered up almost immediately).

So here is another truth bomb you should be aware of:
FDA files: 26,000 'nervous system disorders' from Pfizer vaccine in first 2.5 months

"The documentation was obtained in a Freedom of Information lawsuit filed a group called Public Health and Medical Professionals for Transparency, comprised of more than 30 professors and scientists from universities including Yale, Harvard, UCLA and Brown".
https://www.wnd.com/2021/11/fda-fil...em-disorders-pfizer-vaccine-first-2-5-months/

According to you and others here, these scientists and professors are all paranoid conspiracy theorists, and Pfizer should be awarded handsomely for its murderous vaccine. But there are thousands of ethical medical doctors who are totally opposed to the COVID tyranny that has been established worldwide.
Like I said, You will believe anything as long as it supports you

I am done.

Keep believing whatever you want.

I will put you all in Gods hands..
 

Aidan1

Well-known member
Mar 17, 2021
1,680
705
113
Since you are WILFULLY BLIND and WILFULLY IGNORANT you will see nothing.
Pardon, you are the One who claimes things which are without proof.
In europe are maby some thousands, you mentioned thousands in New York.
Lot of them the from the right wing, near right radikal nazionalists. If I am not wrong. With tendence to be criminal. In austria they tryed to burn a policeman.
So where are the millions?
 

Aidan1

Well-known member
Mar 17, 2021
1,680
705
113
Pardon, you are the One who claimes things which are without proof.
In europe are maby some thousands, you mentioned thousands in New York.
Lot of them the from the right wing, near right radikal nazionalists. If I am not wrong. With tendence to be criminal. In austria they tryed to burn a policeman.
So where are the millions?
Shittim, you can of course disagree with the truth. Its your choice.
 
Jun 5, 2018
93
59
18
People are welcome to disagree. I will not accept fake news as fact, lies as truth, misinformation and slander as being acceptable for Christians. Vaccines generally work the same on all races in all countries. Nothing made by humans is perfect. Something like 90% of Australians have been vaccinated. The hospital burden is reducing and the death rate in decline. Exactly the opposite to the expectations of anti vaxxers. I'm one of the 90%. I'm 70, so I'm high risk if I catch COVID. I also have had a heart problem and blood pressure higher than it should be. So it was a big decision for me to get the vaccination. I read as much as I could and I read the pro-con (mostly con) arguments on this forum.

I am against mandatory vaccination. However, the anti vax hysteria troubles me. Christians should love the truth. I don't see much of that in this debate.
The hospital burden is reducing and the death rate in decline


I Wouldn't be too sure of that.

Mark McGowan, the premier of Western Australia - which has almost 3 million people - in an interview with Sky News Australia on Sun., Oct. 31.

Here’s his exact quotation:

Our hospitals are under enormous pressure. This is the same in [the rest of Australia]. This has been something no one has ever seen before, the growth in demand in our hospitals, why it is is hard, hard to know… There is huge numbers of people coming through the door, so we’re doing everything we can to try to manage it.

To be clear, Covid is not causing the hospital crisis in Western Australia. The state has incredibly strict border restrictions, even by Australian standards, and almost no cases.

But - like the rest of Australia - it has very high vaccination rates.

I recon there is an elephant in the room and the pollies don’t care to see it, drunk on the money, the power, the control.
 

gb9

Senior Member
Jan 18, 2011
12,327
6,695
113
You know what is concentration camp?
If you use this term.

in the northern territory of austraila , chief minister michael gunner announced that people had to stay in their homes except for a medical emergency , and due to 9 positive tests and then contact tracing, people are being placed into a quarantine camp at howard springs.

of course, you are probably fine with this......
 

Aidan1

Well-known member
Mar 17, 2021
1,680
705
113
in the northern territory of austraila , chief minister michael gunner announced that people had to stay in their homes except for a medical emergency , and due to 9 positive tests and then contact tracing, people are being placed into a quarantine camp at howard springs.

of course, you are probably fine with this......
So these are concentration Camps? Then please go back and realize what and whatfore concentration Camps were.

Because of 45000 infections today in germany 810 people will die.
Do you imagine the infectionrate without vaccine, masks, isolation, distance?
You dont want then carry away the death!
 

gb9

Senior Member
Jan 18, 2011
12,327
6,695
113
It's quarantine, for 2 weeks at most. There is nothing new or sinister about this. No one likes it. People are not forced to come to Australia so they are not compelled to quarantine.

Your response is typical of the exaggerated and misleading rubbish spouted routinely by conspiracy theorists. Quarantine has been method of disease control since at least the 14th century when the plague was rife. You think it's a problem now? Consider passengers on a ship who have no choice but to stay in a plague ridden ship until everyone dies or recovers. And with no treatment.

Isolation of lepers goes back to Old Testament times. God initiated quarantine, just a little different from what we have now. Got Questions has this to say:

"Incurable by man, many believed God inflicted the curse of leprosy upon people for the sins they committed. In fact, those with leprosy were so despised and loathed that they were not allowed to live in any community with their own people (Numbers 5:2). Among the sixty-one defilements of ancient Jewish laws, leprosy was second only to a dead body in seriousness. A leper wasn’t allowed to come within six feet of any other human, including his own family. The disease was considered so revolting that the leper wasn’t permitted to come within 150 feet of anyone when the wind was blowing. Lepers lived in a community with other lepers until they either got better or died. This was the only way the people knew to contain the spread of the contagious forms of leprosy."

Leprosy is curable now.
so, now we should have covid colonies .


nice.

brainwashed individual you are.
 

gb9

Senior Member
Jan 18, 2011
12,327
6,695
113
So these are concentration Camps? Then please go back and realize what and whatfore concentration Camps were.

Because of 45000 infections today in germany 810 people will die.
Do you imagine the infectionrate without vaccine, masks, isolation, distance?
You dont want then carry away the death!

the vaccine does not stop the transmission of covid.
and. like i said. you are fine with people getting taken out of their homes and placed into a camp against their will.

human rights do not end when your covid fear begins.
 

Aidan1

Well-known member
Mar 17, 2021
1,680
705
113
the vaccine does not stop the transmission of covid.
and. like i said. you are fine with people getting taken out of their homes and placed into a camp against their will.

human rights do not end when your covid fear begins.
But humans rights ends when it cost the health and life of other humans.

Again, the facts dont support your view about the vaccine.!!
 

Aidan1

Well-known member
Mar 17, 2021
1,680
705
113
so, now we should have covid colonies .


nice.

brainwashed individual you are.
So how long they have to stay in isolation?
14 days? 6 month, 1 year?rest of their life?

To compare this with a concentration camp Hits all those in their face which stayed in such a camp and suffered and died.
 

PennEd

Senior Member
Apr 22, 2013
13,586
9,104
113
1637671176990.png

Double-Vaccinated mum of three dies from ‘worst case of Covid’ doctors have ever seen

So let me get this straight — They’re trying to convince the Unvaccinated that the jabs work, while trying to convince the Vaccinated that they don’t work, so they’ll all go out and get their boosters.
 

gb9

Senior Member
Jan 18, 2011
12,327
6,695
113
So how long they have to stay in isolation?
14 days? 6 month, 1 year?rest of their life?

To compare this with a concentration camp Hits all those in their face which stayed in such a camp and suffered and died.

in america, we are going about our business,

we do not bow to government here the way the rest of the world does.


infection rates do not rise as vaccinations rise,

that is proff- the vax at best does not work.
 

RolloTamasi

Active member
Nov 10, 2021
241
82
28
Status
Not open for further replies.