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Genipher

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The world is condemned, everything we do here is temporary. Also this is the instructions Jesus gave us. If they do not welcome you in this city shake off the dust as a testimony against them and go to the next city.

If I leave NY (we are currently in the process, retirement takes time to process everything) then I stop paying city and state taxes, stop buying stuff at the local businesses. 5% of the City moves they will have a very serious setback.

If I move to another state they will increase in their electoral votes, and they will increase in their Conservative, Evangelical stance. This will help create places for other Christians to flee to during the tribulation.
If you don't mind me asking, what state are you thinking of moving to? Im in Oregon and as long as my husband has his good job here (they've been very good so far about not mandating anything), we'll stay. But if things go sideways, we'll probably join my sis in Idaho.
 

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Again. This type of argument is stupid on steroids.
Not nearly as stupid as yours.

The vaxxed took the lethal injections so they wouldn’t get the virus.
No, the vaccine doesn't prevent the virus 100%.

The vaccine: (1) reduces your likelihood of getting the virus, and (2) reduces the severity of the disease if you do get the virus.

Think of it as like a seatbelt.

If you're driving, and not wearing a seatbelt, and you have to swerve to avoid hitting something, the centrifugal force may push you away from the driver's seat, may force you to grip the wheel and swerve even more, and / or may cause a worse accident than what may have happened if you had hit the object you swerved to avoid.

So wearing a seatbelt might help prevent some accidents.

But more importantly, if you are involved in an accident, wearing your seatbelt significantly reduces your injury, and your chances of dying.

Are you going to get into an accident every time you drive? No. Of course not. That's silly. So, does that mean you don't have to wear your seatbelt every time you drive? Well, that would be stupid, because you never know when you might be involved in an accident.

Are there cases where not wearing a seatbelt might be better? There are a very, very few cases where a person is hurt worse because they were trapped by their seatbelt (i.e. water accidents), but it has been shown repeatedly that these are FAR outnumbered, by the thousands, compared to the number of people who are saved -- significantly -- by the use of seatbelts.

If you do wear a seatbelt, does that mean that you are invincible, and that no one has ever died while wearing a seatbelt? Of course not. Some accidents are so bad that, even with a seatbelt, some of the people involved have died. But again, the science is undeniable. Seatbelts save lives, period. There's no doubt.

People wearing their seatbelts can walk away from an accident that would kill someone who wasn't wearing a seatbelt.

The same is true for the vaccine.

I was vaccinated last May. After my second dose, I felt some mild flu symptoms, as many others have reported, the 1st day after the shot. I was fine the 2nd day. My parents (who are in their 70s) were vaccinated, but my husband chose not to be vaccinated.

About 2 months ago, my husband first felt what he thought was a head-cold. Runny nose, stuffy head, very low-grade fever (under 100). None of the typical covid symptoms -- no cough, no shortness of breath, no loss of smell or taste. Then my son and I both got it, then my parents. My mom got tested and it came back positive, so I also tested. By the time I got the test, I felt no symptoms. My fever was gone, I had no stuffy head or runny nose. Same with my son -- his fever only lasted 1/2 day, and he had no other symptoms. My dad never experienced any symptoms. But all of us tested positive.

My husband was in bed for 3 weeks.

He is otherwise a healthy man. But the COVID kicked his butt. Because he wasn't vaccinated.

And it could have been worse. He could have died.

So yes. I'm very glad I was vaccinated, and will get a booster.

You’re safe right? You got the injections.
Yes. I'm safe from serious illness.

So how does a pure blood unvaxxed represent a threat to you or any other vaxxed?
See above. Any of us could have gotten more seriously ill. Or, just as a person wearing a seat-belt can still be killed in a bad accident by someone who isn't wearing their seatbelt, swerves to miss a dog who runs into the road, and lost control of the car, I, or anyone in my family, may be killed, even if we're vaccinated.

And because my husband is an idiot, he could have died.

And there are people who can't be vaccinated for various reasons, and they are at risk.

So yes, you not getting vaccinated puts me and my loved ones at serious risk. You are literally killing people.

And you seem okay with that, which makes you very much NOT in line with what Jesus taught.
 

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I'd rather pay a fine than take the jab.
Curious....

I'm assuming you think it's fine for women to get abortions, as long as they pay for it, then?

After all, you have no problem risking other people's lives, and are willing to pay a fine rather than take a jab to prevent it. How is that different than women willing to pay for an abortion?
 

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Wow! Someone please tell me I am really reading this right.

1. Hillsboro Mom accuses those who are not getting vaccinated as thinking it is OK to kill someone else and then calls them hypocrites because unlike her they are against killing babies.
You are not reading that right.

I am against killing babies.

The difference between you and me is that I am consistent. I think ALL people should be protected, not just fetuses.

You seem to think the only time people should be protected is if it's not too inconvenient to you. The minute you have any inconvenience, you have no problem killing someone else.

See, I'm not okay with that. I think it's gotta be more than "inconvenience" to warrant such a decision.
 

ZNP

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I don't have any peer-reviewed studies either way. However, I would be more than happy to read any such studies you provide links for.

Unlike you, I won't claim to have seen studies that say something without referring to the study in such a way to support the claim.

Otherwise, I could say something like, "Doctors from the most prestigious institutions say you're an idiot." Without backing it up, one could say just about anything. It doesn't make it true.


I haven't watched TV for over 2 years, and I've NEVER watched either CNN nor MSNBC.

But it certainly goes a long way to showing your particular prejudice, that anyone who disagrees with you must, obviously, be a mindless slave of left-wing media, because anyone who isn't a left-winger must obviously agree with you.

If only life were so black-and-white.
This thread has posted many, many peer reviewed studies. There is a basic assumption that when someone is posting on page 243 of a thread they are at least mildly familiar with what has already been posted. The reason I am claiming to have seen them on this thread is simply the context of this thread. You will see that I have commented on them, responded to them and have been active on this thread as they have all been posted.
 

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And on the flip side, many, MANY, people in my church and social circle have had Covid and the only death I'm aware of was my cousin. And there has been zero word on whether she had the vax before she died. I assume she had the shot as she was the type to comply without question.

So. How many people do you know who died from Covid?
Dozens. I lost count around 15. All of them were unvaccinated. Most of them before there was a vaccine available, although one was more recent, and simply didn't get the vaccine, because like you they thought they were "too good." Well, now they're good and dead.
 

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Out of how many that you know of that had Covid?

Personally, I know roughly 30ish people that got Covid and recovered and just that 1 death. I've been trying to find out if cousin had the jab...just heard she was in health care...but nobody in the family who would know is answering that question, so I'm kinda thinking she did. Otherwise they'd be blaming her unvaxxed status. So it could very well be that the jab is what sent her to the hospital and, ultimately, her death.
No, that died. I can't count how many had Covid. I did, my wife did, my son was certainly exposed though didn't have any symptoms. The list is very long.
 

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Wondering if the American Heart Association is reputable enough for the Borg to finally realize just how dangerous the lethal injection they were fooled, feared not to, and bullied to inject.

FAUCI ALERT — American Heart Association issues warning on mRNA vaccines…


https://citizenfreepress.com/breaki...-association-issues-warning-on-mrna-vaccines/
I appreciate this post. I do worry about the myocarditis issue, and am glad that my doctor is taking this seriously. My son turns 12 tomorrow. We are discussing whether he will get vaccinated, due to this very fact. We're not sure about this one risk, and his doctor is being great about talking to us about the risks of BOTH sides.

There are plenty of good doctors out here who are listening to the science, not just the fanatics, on either side.
 

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Wow! OK where did I talk about praying, voting or stomping my feet to get out from under the prophesies?
You didn't have to talk about it. You just did it. I saw it, JTB saw it, and plenty of others saw it.
 

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You are not reading that right.

I am against killing babies.

The difference between you and me is that I am consistent. I think ALL people should be protected, not just fetuses.

You seem to think the only time people should be protected is if it's not too inconvenient to you. The minute you have any inconvenience, you have no problem killing someone else.

See, I'm not okay with that. I think it's gotta be more than "inconvenience" to warrant such a decision.
You think that getting a vaccine protects others, that is utterly false.

I had Covid, I am now immune and peer reviewed studies have shown my immunity is about 20x greater than the vaccine. Please stop your slanderous remarks about what I believe.

You think that getting the vaccine is somehow helping keep others safe. Not only is that not true it is exactly the opposite. The more people that are vaccinated the quicker the vaccine will not protect anyone. We have explained all of this with numerous studies that have been posted on this thread. Instead of coming in at the end of months of research why don't you educate yourself.
 

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You didn't have to talk about it. You just did it. I saw it, JTB saw it, and plenty of others saw it.
So then do the Christian thing and show me what I did to give you that impression.
 

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There is a basic assumption that when someone is posting on page 243 of a thread they are at least mildly familiar with what has already been posted.
Sorry, I just got here yesterday, after a long absence. I haven't had time to read the last 243 pages. I'll try to find some of those peer-reviewed studies.
 

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Pfizer Scientists: ‘Your [COVID] Antibodies Are Better Than The [Pfizer] Vaccination.' #ExposePfizer _Project Veritas
Monday, October 4, 2021 20:25
Pfizer Scientists: ‘Your [COVID] Antibodies Are Better Than The [Pfizer] Vaccination.’ #ExposePfizer – YouTube

Project Veritas released the fourth video of its COVID vaccine investigative series today, which exposes three Pfizer officials saying that antibodies lead to equal if not better protection against the virus compared to the vaccine.

Nick Karl, a scientist who is directly involved in the production of Pfizer’s COVID vaccine, said that natural immunity is more effective than the very own product he works on.

Here are some of the highlights from today’s video:
Nick Karl, Pfizer Scientist: “When somebody is naturally immune — like they got COVID — they probably have more antibodies against the virus…When you actually get the virus, you’re going to start producing antibodies against multiple pieces of the virus…So, your antibodies are probably better at that point than the [COVID] vaccination.”
Chris Croce, Pfizer Senior Associate Scientist: “You’re protected for longer” if you have natural COVID antibodies compared to the COVID vaccine.
Croce: “I work for an evil corporation…Our organization is run on COVID money.”
Rahul Khandke, Pfizer Scientist: “If you have [COVID] antibodies built up, you should be able to prove that you have those built up.”

You can watch the video here:
This post has an interesting study from Pfizer
 

ZNP

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In the World of REAL SCIENCE this is what we would describe as a DOUBLE BLIND TEST!!! Statistically PROVES that the VACCINE is NOT EFFECTIVE AND IVERMECTINE IS MOST EFFECTIVE!!!

India's Ivermectin Blackout: The Secret Revealed

……..the Ivermectin kits are highly correlated with eliminating COVID-19 in Uttar Pradesh. Indeed with less than 11% of their population fully vaccinated, the Uttar Pradesh model of test and treat is superior not only to Kerala, with a much higher percent vaccinated. Uttar Pradesh beats the UK, the US, and nearly everywhere else in the world in terms of the lowest active COVID cases.



Interest in Ivermectin and India is only increasing and has now reached an all-time high.

Please read this Zero Hedge article carefully. It may we’ll save your life and that of your families and loved ones. My comments to follow.

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/indias-ivermectin-blackout-secret-revealed

The ubiquitous experts keep telling us that we have to ” follow the science.” Well here it is and it PROVES without a shadow of a doubt that we have been lied to by these self proclaimed experts from the very beginning.

How are we to conclude otherwise that this has been nothing more than a monstrous plot to destroy the sovereignty, moral and populations of White, western, Judeo-Christian civilization?

Fauci has proven himself to be an evil poisonous troll whose crimes against humanity rival this of Goebbels and Mengle combined. He needs to be but the first to be hanged and left to rot. And the big tech, big pharma leaders, politicians and media mouthpieces that have deliberately facilitated his lies and murder need to hang and rot right beside him.
Here is a great study on Ivermectin
 

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Pfizer Whistleblower LEAKS Execs Emails EXPOSING Suppression of Covid Vax Info From Public _Project Veritas
Wednesday, October 6, 2021 20:25

Pfizer Whistleblower LEAKS Execs Emails EXPOSING Suppression of Covid Vax Info From Public – YouTube

Project Veritas released the fifth video in its COVID vaccine investigative series today featuring a sit-down interview with Pfizer Insider, Melissa Strickler.

She leaked internal emails that show corporate executives telling staff to be secretive about the use of human fetal tissue in laboratory testing of the COVID vaccine.

Here are some of the highlights from today’s video:

Vanessa Gelman, Pfizer Senior Director of Worldwide Research: “From the perspective of corporate affairs, we want to avoid having the information on fetal cells floating out there…The risk of communicating this right now outweighs any potential benefit we could see, particularly with general members of the public who may take this information and use it in ways we may not want out there. We have not received any questions from policy makers or media on this issue in the last few weeks, so we want to avoid raising this if possible.”

Gelman: “We have been trying as much as possible to not mention the fetal cell lines…One or more cell lines with an origin that can be traced back to human fetal tissue has been used in laboratory tests associated with the vaccine program.”

Philip Dormitzer, Pfizer Chief Scientific Officer: “HEK293T cells, used for the IVE assay, are ultimately derived from an aborted fetus. On the other hand, the Vatican doctrinal committee has confirmed that they consider it acceptable for Pro-Life believers to be immunized. Pfizer’s official statement couches the answer well and is what should be provided in response to an outside inquiry.”
Melissa Strickler, Pfizer Insider and Manufacturing Quality Auditor: “They’re being so deceptive in their emails, it’s almost like it is in the final vaccine. It just made me not trust it.”

You can watch the video here:

These are shocking revelations coming from a Brave Big Pharma Insider.

The public has a right to know how the products they consume are developed, especially vaccines.

Project Veritas encourages more whistleblowers working inside Big Pharma to come forward with newsworthy information on the COVID vaccine.

Email us at [email protected]
Great expose by Project Veritas
 

ZNP

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Dr Vladimir Zelenko Risks This Life By Saying This – [Must See!]
Thursday, October 7, 2021 22:28

The world renowned Physician of Presidents, and nominee for the Nobel Peace Prize, Dr. Vladimir Zelenko takes a BIG RISK by speaking out fearlessly about the devastating destruction the current vaccinations are causing worldwide.

Before a Rabbinical court in Jerusalem he testifies how millions may have died and possibly billions may lose their lives in the coming years.

Dr. Zelenko helped make the Vaccine Death Report that shows all the scientific evidence for the shocking claims he is making in this video. Make sure to download this revealing report, after watching this video.

Few medical experts have the courage to speak out
as freely as this hero of humanity.

WATCH AND SHARE!

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The Vaccine Death Report shows all the scientific evidence that millions of innocent people lost their lives and hundreds of millions are suffering crippling side effects, after being injected with the experimental covid injections. The report exposes the strategic methods used by governments and health agencies to hide 99% of all vaccine injuries and deaths. You will also learn who is really behind all of this, and what their true agenda is.
The report also shows horrifying lab results
from microscopic investigation of some vaccine vials:
living creatures with tentacles, as well as
self-assembling nanorobots. See picture:




The report also shows horrifying lab results from microscopic investigation of some vaccine vials: living creatures with tentacles, as well as self-assembling nanorobots.

The Vaccine Death Report contains a tremendous amount of critical information, that you will find nowhere else in such a comprehensive and well organized format. It ends with a strong message of hope, that will greatly empower you.

This report is a critical alarm call to the world.

Related Articles:

COVID-19 & COVID-19 Shot Therapy – They Don’t Want You to Find – Full Article
Excellent doctor, should be aware of this.
 

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If you don't mind me asking, what state are you thinking of moving to? Im in Oregon and as long as my husband has his good job here (they've been very good so far about not mandating anything), we'll stay. But if things go sideways, we'll probably join my sis in Idaho.
South Dakota
 
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