Russia preparing for war

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In defense of the Jews, more Jews in Israel have come to Christ in the last 20 years than in the last 2,000. Also, the Lord is waking up people around the world to their Hebrew roots...I testify to this as I am one of them! Jews are people...period!
Hey, sorry about that. The reason why I grouped Jews with atheists and leftists is because many of them are left-wing. In fact, much of the political left’s success in America can be attributed to Jewish activism.

To be fair, 75% of Orthodox Jews vote for the Republican Party. Here’s the source: https://www.timesofisrael.com/pew-s...s-identify-as-republicans-up-from-57-in-2013/ Yeah, the majority of them vote Democrat, but the Orthodox Jews are having many kids whereas the progressive Jewish denominations are barely reproducing, and many intermarry. What this means is that despite Jews having a longstanding reputation for left-wing activism, in three or four generations the majority will be conservative. Thank God for that.
 

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In defense of the Jews, more Jews in Israel have come to Christ in the last 20 years than in the last 2,000.
True. Strangely enough Leftist American Jews hate the Israeli Jews because they all praised Trump for making Jerusalem their capital. But Leftist American Jews have been undermining America and supporting Palestinians for decades and getting away with it. And de Blasio in New York has shown us his hatred for Orthodox Jews many times. Yet Jews continue to be Leftists when there is no gain in being on the Left.
 
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True. Strangely enough Leftist American Jews hate the Israeli Jews because they all praised Trump for making Jerusalem their capital. But Leftist American Jews have been undermining America and supporting Palestinians for decades and getting away with it. And de Blasio in New York has shown us his hatred for Orthodox Jews many times. Yet Jews continue to be Leftists when there is no gain in being on the Left.
Left-wing Jews adamantly support Israel, a nation that only allows Jews to immigrate to their country. Meanwhile these same people are pro-open borders and have been fanatical supporters of multiculturalism and diversity in non-Jewish countries. They want to dilute the religious and demographic integrity of Christian nations with third-world immigrants, which will eventually result in Muslims becoming the majority in Europe (all of whom are significantly more anti-Semitic than your average progressive, secular European), because of some sort of irrational fears about white people. Yet they don’t see anything hypocritical here with supporting Israel and that country’s Jewish-only immigration policy.
 
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Hey, sorry about that. The reason why I grouped Jews with atheists and leftists is because many of them are left-wing. In fact, much of the political left’s success in America can be attributed to Jewish activism.

To be fair, 75% of Orthodox Jews vote for the Republican Party. Here’s the source: https://www.timesofisrael.com/pew-s...s-identify-as-republicans-up-from-57-in-2013/ Yeah, the majority of them vote Democrat, but the Orthodox Jews are having many kids whereas the progressive Jewish denominations are barely reproducing, and many intermarry. What this means is that despite Jews having a longstanding reputation for left-wing activism, in three or four generations the majority will be conservative. Thank God for that.
No problem, brother.
 
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True. Strangely enough Leftist American Jews hate the Israeli Jews because they all praised Trump for making Jerusalem their capital. But Leftist American Jews have been undermining America and supporting Palestinians for decades and getting away with it. And de Blasio in New York has shown us his hatred for Orthodox Jews many times. Yet Jews continue to be Leftists when there is no gain in being on the Left.
To be honest, I'm a libertarian, though I'm not far-left. Trump is a hero of mine.
 

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To be honest, I'm a libertarian, though I'm not far-left. Trump is a hero of mine.
Trump had a lot of very good ideas and did much good. Then undermined himself and his supporters. So we don't really know where he really stands. He's still gung-ho about the dangerous COVID vaccines.
 
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Not according to Pew Research Center. Liberal Democrats (which includes Leftist Jews) would rather support Palestinians than Israel.

"Nearly twice as many liberal Democrats sympathize more with the Palestinians than with Israel"
https://www.pewresearch.org/politic...art-in-views-of-israel-palestinians/012318_1/
The United States is only 1.7% Jewish, and surveys have shown that about 20% to 25% of the American population identifies as liberal, progressive, or left-wing. The overall Jewish American population is miniscule relative to the total population of US progressives. Thus, a survey like the one you quoted won’t show how Jewish liberals feel about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict unless the data is broken down by the participants’ religions.
 
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I care about how Jesus sees things. If I have other views, then I'm wrong...and my mother probably dressed me funny, too! Lol
 

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This madman may provoke a totally unnecessary war. Which may be the slap that so many need to wake up!
I assume that the madman you refer to is Putin. I disagree Putin is not mad and the war would not be unnecessary. If one believes that God is in control of his universe and all truth comes from him you will know that nothing happens by chance. God has a plan for humanity and it will be fulfilled regardless of any attempts to prevent it. It appears that a number of contributors on this
thread would rather rely on secular opinions and scripture twisting than to accept this. I wish them well.
 
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I assume that the madman you refer to is Putin. I disagree Putin is not mad and the war would not be unnecessary. If one believes that God is in control of his universe and all truth comes from him you will know that nothing happens by chance. God has a plan for humanity and it will be fulfilled regardless of any attempts to prevent it. It appears that a number of contributors on this
thread would rather rely on secular opinions and scripture twisting than to accept this. I wish them well.
I was referring to Biden.
 
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I assume that the madman you refer to is Putin. I disagree Putin is not mad and the war would not be unnecessary. If one believes that God is in control of his universe and all truth comes from him you will know that nothing happens by chance. God has a plan for humanity and it will be fulfilled regardless of any attempts to prevent it. It appears that a number of contributors on this
thread would rather rely on secular opinions and scripture twisting than to accept this. I wish them well.
Throughout the ages various cultures and countries have tried to pinpoint the Gog prophecy.

When France invaded Russia during the 19th Napoleonic Wars, many Russian theologians at the time were calling it “The War of Gog and Magog.”

Guesses about the said prophecy extend back further in time. Some theologians from the first century thought it was talking about Alexander the Great.

During the Cold War, some Christian Americans believed Magog was Russia because the Soviet Union was our country’s mortal enemy at the time. The Cold War has been over with for thirty years now, so I don’t know why you would think Russia is going to initiate the end of the world.

These days I’ve heard some Evangelical Christians talking about how they think Magog is Iran, since tensions between the US and Iran are high now.

All explanations are inconsistent, but do you see the common denominator? Theologians who believe in a literal interpretation of the Book of Revelation have tendency to think their national enemies are who the Bible is describing.

When interpreting elusive biblical scripture like the Revelation texts, I think the simplest answer is the correct answer. The Preterist view seems to be it.
 
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Judges 19:25 is similar to Genesis 19. Isaiah 7:14 talks of a virgin giving birth, and though it is not talking about Jesus, I believe it is a prophetic foreshadowing of His birth. I believe that the preterist view is based on another of these foreshadowing events.
 

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I was referring to Biden.
Yes Biden and Merkel are responsible for Russia become more aggressive.
"The extraordinary hypocrisy and shortsightedness behind the Nord Stream 2 pipeline, has allowed Russia to set up a fait accompli that will reinforce Putin’s expansionist ambitions and prove how complacent [not stupid?] America and its European allies have become."
 
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I believe behind it all is the scheming of the globalists. I don't believe Putin to be one of them. Biden's handlers are.
 

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Russia has progressed a long way: They were once a communist empire bent on conquering the world—now they are a good conservative nation.

Read about how Putin is helping to strengthen Christianity in his country here: https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2017/10/19/putin-and-the-triumph-of-christianity-in-russia

Meanwhile in America, politicians and subversive interest groups want to promote “separation of church and state.” They have conniptions whenever prayer in public schools happens and use state power to shut it down.

Christianity is thriving in Russia, but here in America Christianity is being snuffed out of public life. Multiculturalism and diversity, both code words for diluting the demographic integrity of Christian-majority nations, is the political fashion in America. Meanwhile in Russia, they don’t tolerate things like homosexuals indoctrinating children with homosexualist propaganda.

It is clear to me that Russia is a conservative country, whereas America has become a left-wing cultural Marxist nation that wants to get rid of Christianity in the name of diversity and tolerance. Thus, I wish Vladimir Putin the best of luck in defeating a NATO and EU ally. May God grant Russia success and return Ukraine back to their rightful place.
Please remember that the only type of Christianity that Putin allows is the Russian Orthodox Church. The Orthodox used the Bible to a much greater degree than the RCC. But there are rites and rituals that Protestants don't agree with, and the Orthodox church does not acknowledge the pope in Rome. Each national church has its own leader, the vernacular has always been spoken, too.

The problem is, many Orthodox believe only Orthodox are saved, and Putin has bought into that lie. Protestant Christians in particular, can be put into jail for not being a member of the ROC. That includes Baptists, Pentecostals, Lutherans, Reformed and many other denominations.

I really have to object to Putin being characterized as a protector of Christians. Further, I know quite a few people in Ukraine who are very concerned about the troop build ups. Russia vs Ukraine has been going on for a long time- probably the Crimean war or well before. After Stalin captured and killed millions of Ukrainian serfs and peasants, he took every animal and ever seed of grain, in 1932-33 literally millions died of starvation.

"Holodomor, man-made famine that convulsed the Soviet republic of Ukraine from 1932 to 1933, peaking in the late spring of 1933. It was part of a broader Soviet famine (1931–34) that also caused mass starvation in the grain-growing regions of Soviet Russia and Kazakhstan. The Ukrainian famine, however, was made deadlier by a series of political decrees and decisions that were aimed mostly or only at Ukraine. In acknowledgement of its scale, the famine of 1932–33 is often called the Holodomor, a term derived from the Ukrainian words for hunger (holod) and extermination (mor)."

https://www.britannica.com/event/Holodomor

Russia stole Ukrainian athletes, their poets and writers, musicians & dancers and in eastern Ukrainian replaced the Ukrainian language with Russian. There is no doubt this is also part of the genocide by Russia of Ukrainian people and culture.

As a person who is half Ukrainian, you will never convince me Russia will ever have good intentions towards the Republic of Ukraine. My father, who was born in Canada, but raised with Ukrainian as his first language, had many stories to tell about the aggressors and threats from Russia towards the Ukraine!

I will protest loudly any implication that Putin and Russia care about anything but themselves. Maybe even going back to a Soviet style of governance. Putin was a KGB officer, he will never lose that training!
 
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China...Russia...to me, the choice would be clear...not that we have one.
 

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Putin has a law that he is president till 2036 and some have said that he is the richest man in the world? (it wouldn't surprise me if he is). He is close with China and is now becoming very friendly with India. He certainly gets what he wants.
 
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We have communist Chinese troops training on our soil. Everything that one buys in the stores is made in China. We have bought our enemies a brand new nuclear arsenal.
I've warned people about this for decades but no one listen. Many young Canadians think communism isn't that bad. China is responsible for the pandemic.
Look, here comes another wave of stealthy carpet bombers with payloads of smart stupid bombs!
 

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Prior to WWII the Rothschild's bank financed the German miracle to build up Germany as a bulwark against communism in Russia. We now know that Germany's war machine was financed by the West and by European elites. Why? So they could prevent the communists from spreading to Europe. You might think that Hitler's biggest blunder was invading Russia, that wasn't his blunder, that was the direct bidding of his puppet masters.

Why would these bankers who were located in England and Europe and the US finance Germany? Because they make money from war. They made a tremendous amount of money from the allies and they got all the money back that they loaned to Germany, that was the "final solution" taking gold fillings from those they gassed as well as their bank accounts, houses, and other assets.

Well guess what, they have done the same thing again only this time they have financed "the Russian miracle" because the biggest threat to their control of the world is the United States. What carrot are they dangling in front of Russia? If they can destroy America nothing would stop them from becoming the world's policeman. The reason the US has the reserve currency is because you can't buy oil except in US dollars. Russia wants that agreement, you can't buy oil except in Russian rubles. They will ally themselves with Iran and the Muslim brotherhood. After the US left Afghanistan they have a tremendously well supplied army.

Buckle up, here comes the Gog/Magog army.
The biggest beneficiary of WW2 was the USA. The UK was bankrupted by the war and became indebted to the US for decades. Roosevelt was a liar and manipulator, promising much and delivering nothing - except for a price. Roosevelt despised Churchill. The US sat back with glee and enjoyed the financial benefits of being weapons supplier to the Western world. Only Japan's attack on Pearl Harbor changed things. Japan was just stupid. They could have taken most of the former Dutch and British territories without a word from the USA.

You are wrong in one respect. Hitler detested dependence on outside resources. He wanted to be completely self contained, much like modern North Korea. He decided to take rather than trade. He invaded Russia to take resources, because he had to in his world view. He flagged this in "Mein Kampf" and did exactly as he said he would do. He failed to secure the most important resource, and that was oil. It was lack of oil that stopped his war machine, not arms or soldiers or resolve.

Hitler despised capitalism. He was a socialist, no matter what revisionists like to say. He hated the Jews because he saw them as the force behind capitalism. Instead, he stole the wealth of German Jews, stole the production of occupied Europe and would have done the same to Russia if he had won.

There are a lot of possibilities. Muslims may not want to deal with Russia. Russia has treated Muslim minorities badly (Chechnya). Still, Saudi Arabia is now friendly with Israel. For how long, God only knows. Not very is my guess. Anything is possible!