Are miracles a necessary part of the the gospel?
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If we are true Christians ----we should be relying on the Holy Spirit to reveal the truth of scripture to us ---and not be trusting or listening to people who just claim to be Christians ------
The people sitting in the pews in Church trust their Minister to reveal the true understanding of scripture ------if the Minister does not have the indwelling of the Holy Spirit then he or she is going on their own speculation and will for sure be presenting misunderstanding to the Church about the Scriptures ------it is up to us to know and learn the Scriptures enough to be able to distinguish what is being preached to us ---if it goes against scripture then we need to leave that church ------
The Church will believe what is preached to them -----as they trust their Minister to direct them rightly --many---many people are being led into grave misunderstanding of the truth of scripture today by False teachers
1 John 2:18-27 NIV
Warnings Against Denying the Son
18 Dear children, this is the last hour; and as you have heard that the antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come. This is how we know it is the last hour. 19 They went out from us, but they did not really belong to us. For if they had belonged to us, they would have remained with us; but their going showed that none of them belonged to us.
20 But you have an anointing from the Holy One, and all of you know the truth.[a] 21 I do not write to you because you do not know the truth, but because you do know it and because no lie comes from the truth. 22 Who is the liar? It is whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a person is the antichrist—denying the Father and the Son. 23 No one who denies the Son has the Father; whoever acknowledges the Son has the Father also.
24 As for you, see that what you have heard from the beginning remains in you. If it does, you also will remain in the Son and in the Father. 25 And this is what he promised us—eternal life.
26 I am writing these things to you about those who are trying to lead you astray.
27 As for you, the anointing you received from him remains in you, and you do not need anyone to teach you. But as his anointing teaches you about all things and as that anointing is real, not counterfeit—just as it has taught you, remain in him.
I say ------Know your Scriptures and rely on the Holy Spirit and there will be no misunderstanding -------
God does not show favoritism -----it is our job to know God's word ---He Provided it for us we have to do the work to know when we are being duped and when we are not being duped ------
#2 Bible Verses about Favoritism – God shows no Partiality
Romans 2:11, ESV For God shows no partiality.
Acts 10:34, ESV So Peter opened his mouth and said: Truly I understand that God shows no partiality.
The people sitting in the pews in Church trust their Minister to reveal the true understanding of scripture ------if the Minister does not have the indwelling of the Holy Spirit then he or she is going on their own speculation and will for sure be presenting misunderstanding to the Church about the Scriptures ------it is up to us to know and learn the Scriptures enough to be able to distinguish what is being preached to us ---if it goes against scripture then we need to leave that church ------
The Church will believe what is preached to them -----as they trust their Minister to direct them rightly --many---many people are being led into grave misunderstanding of the truth of scripture today by False teachers
1 John 2:18-27 NIV
Warnings Against Denying the Son
18 Dear children, this is the last hour; and as you have heard that the antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come. This is how we know it is the last hour. 19 They went out from us, but they did not really belong to us. For if they had belonged to us, they would have remained with us; but their going showed that none of them belonged to us.
20 But you have an anointing from the Holy One, and all of you know the truth.[a] 21 I do not write to you because you do not know the truth, but because you do know it and because no lie comes from the truth. 22 Who is the liar? It is whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a person is the antichrist—denying the Father and the Son. 23 No one who denies the Son has the Father; whoever acknowledges the Son has the Father also.
24 As for you, see that what you have heard from the beginning remains in you. If it does, you also will remain in the Son and in the Father. 25 And this is what he promised us—eternal life.
26 I am writing these things to you about those who are trying to lead you astray.
27 As for you, the anointing you received from him remains in you, and you do not need anyone to teach you. But as his anointing teaches you about all things and as that anointing is real, not counterfeit—just as it has taught you, remain in him.
I say ------Know your Scriptures and rely on the Holy Spirit and there will be no misunderstanding -------
God does not show favoritism -----it is our job to know God's word ---He Provided it for us we have to do the work to know when we are being duped and when we are not being duped ------
#2 Bible Verses about Favoritism – God shows no Partiality
Romans 2:11, ESV For God shows no partiality.
Acts 10:34, ESV So Peter opened his mouth and said: Truly I understand that God shows no partiality.
Let me ask you a very simple question. Hopefully you have it somewhere within yourself to give a simple and straightforward answer.
As I wrote in my original post, Charles Fox Parham stated:
As I wrote in my original post, Charles Fox Parham stated:
"You, dear friends, who are neglecting to teach, preach, and give of your substance to the spread of this gospel—attended with signs, wonders, mighty deeds, divers miracles and the gifts of the Holy Ghost—are in danger of standing in utter condemnation before the judgment bar of God."
Do you agree with this? If I don't preach or teach that signs and miracles are required for salvation, am I in danger of God's judgment?
I believe
Miracles are for today ------but we should not need to see any miracles to believe today -------we believe by and through God's Faith in the unseen -----anyone who today would only believe if they see a Miracle is a doubter and can expect to receive nothing from God -----Believing and receiving in Jesus and what He did on the Cross by Faith is the only thing that gets adopted back into the sheep fold ---
Miracles do happen today to give Gold Glory -----
This is a 3 min video ---John Piper
Miracles are for today ------but we should not need to see any miracles to believe today -------we believe by and through God's Faith in the unseen -----anyone who today would only believe if they see a Miracle is a doubter and can expect to receive nothing from God -----Believing and receiving in Jesus and what He did on the Cross by Faith is the only thing that gets adopted back into the sheep fold ---
Miracles do happen today to give Gold Glory -----
This is a 3 min video ---John Piper
so your asking if we should think the gospel is true if the person preaching the gospel isn’t able to perform
Miracles ?
not everyone is given that gift is the thing miracles are a gift given to specific people for the whole of the church
“And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues. Are all apostles? are all prophets? are all teachers? are all workers of miracles? Have all the gifts of healing? do all speak with tongues? do all interpret?”
1 Corinthians 12:28-30 KJV
So personally I don’t think we should judge whether the gospel is true based on whether someone is performing a miracle to prove it
the gospel that’s written in scripture is the gospel it’s always going to be the true gospel of we don’t see a miracle it doesn’t mean to gospel isn’t true
The miracles we read about in scripture were witnessing the truth of the gospel we have those miracles s a witness even if we don’t perform or personally see someone do a Miracle it doesn’t change the truth and inchangesble nature of the gospel it’s always going to be the same gospel Jesus preached it will always be true
I think to say miracles are proof of the gospels truth isn’t really in scripture it’s just one of several gifts given to the church but only some receive they gift only some receive tongues only some receive interpretations and gifts of healing only some are called to be a prophet only some are called to teach ect
we all don’t have the same gifts and experiences in Christ but we experience his will in Christ for us . Ll the gifts are for the body but each member has his or her own role and own gifts to share wi to the body
we’re too divided to see it one guy has one gift or several but not all of them while another person has the other gifts and so on we’re all part of one body
That’s just my own take there’s no necessary to see a miracle to know the gospel is true faith tells us it’s true
Miracles ?
not everyone is given that gift is the thing miracles are a gift given to specific people for the whole of the church
“And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues. Are all apostles? are all prophets? are all teachers? are all workers of miracles? Have all the gifts of healing? do all speak with tongues? do all interpret?”
1 Corinthians 12:28-30 KJV
So personally I don’t think we should judge whether the gospel is true based on whether someone is performing a miracle to prove it
the gospel that’s written in scripture is the gospel it’s always going to be the true gospel of we don’t see a miracle it doesn’t mean to gospel isn’t true
The miracles we read about in scripture were witnessing the truth of the gospel we have those miracles s a witness even if we don’t perform or personally see someone do a Miracle it doesn’t change the truth and inchangesble nature of the gospel it’s always going to be the same gospel Jesus preached it will always be true
I think to say miracles are proof of the gospels truth isn’t really in scripture it’s just one of several gifts given to the church but only some receive they gift only some receive tongues only some receive interpretations and gifts of healing only some are called to be a prophet only some are called to teach ect
we all don’t have the same gifts and experiences in Christ but we experience his will in Christ for us . Ll the gifts are for the body but each member has his or her own role and own gifts to share wi to the body
we’re too divided to see it one guy has one gift or several but not all of them while another person has the other gifts and so on we’re all part of one body
That’s just my own take there’s no necessary to see a miracle to know the gospel is true faith tells us it’s true
I;m just hoping I can have just one miracle because my eyes need to be healed and at this point I just wonder what is holding me back from receiving it. I have always believed and granted I am only learning how to ask and believe I will recieve as it is not an area I am particularly strong in but God is leading me down a path of great faith he keeps bringing me back to it he even has said to me several times speak it forth, but learning this is not something that is easy especially without someone to help me learn
But I just have this sudden desire to see God's hand move to just sit back and say to people whatch what my God can do I want to go into deeper waters with him and see exactly what faith can really do but yeah I will check that out it sounds interesting
But I just have this sudden desire to see God's hand move to just sit back and say to people whatch what my God can do I want to go into deeper waters with him and see exactly what faith can really do but yeah I will check that out it sounds interesting
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Jesus Christ, the God-Man, becoming flesh and dying a mortal death on the Cross for our sins IS the ultimate miracle and you cannot have the Gospel without it.
That being said, I don't think knowing all the other miracles is a salvation pre-requisite. The Bible also says that Jesus performed many miracles that simply were not recorded at all so we cannot know about them today.
Not completely teaching all the miracles and DENYING those that are recorded for us are two different things, however. It would be strange to me if a true Christian said they believed in the substitutionary death of Christ and the future bodily resurrection, but DENIED the recorded miracles in the Gospels.
That being said, I don't think knowing all the other miracles is a salvation pre-requisite. The Bible also says that Jesus performed many miracles that simply were not recorded at all so we cannot know about them today.
Not completely teaching all the miracles and DENYING those that are recorded for us are two different things, however. It would be strange to me if a true Christian said they believed in the substitutionary death of Christ and the future bodily resurrection, but DENIED the recorded miracles in the Gospels.
I believe it is going to happen! It will be a Testimony of the Goodness and Power of God because people are well aware of your situation. I believe not seeing is equal to a fire consuming everything you own but never materializes to harm any home or building even with flames roaring within SIX INCHES of those structures, to being broken down on a closed highway that traffic doesn't exist because the highway is shut down but a semi just materializes while 6 people are in a circle holding hands praying for God to provide a miracle and suddenly appears, knows your names of everyone involved in 1970's before technology. Your healing will be God's Glory for a Witness to Others. I Believe! I've seen it way too many times and if I listed everything you would think I am making it up. But it is Real and God wants to restore your Sight!
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If the antichrist and false prophet will perform great lying signs and wonders, what will
Would it surprise you to know Charles Fox Parham is considered by the Assemblies of God to be their main guy in the founding of Pentecostalism? He's also revered by many today who promote signs and wonders. I wonder if they even know the things their hero believed and wrote.
Would it surprise you to know Charles Fox Parham is considered by the Assemblies of God to be their main guy in the founding of Pentecostalism? He's also revered by many today who promote signs and wonders. I wonder if they even know the things their hero believed and wrote.
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I have no idea about this man -----so I just brought him up on Got Questions -----
https://www.gotquestions.org/Charles-Parham.html
this is a piece of what he taught -----so A Big False Prophet --teaching False Doctrine Is what i see ----
Parham also began to advocate for annihilationist theology—the teaching that people who go to hell will eventually be annihilated rather than endure eternal punishment.
His Churches died out as this guy Seymour took his throne place ------the article says ------
It blows my mind what people are willing to listen to ------it is people like him who seem not to care where their students or Church ends up in there eternal homes -----crazy ----
All Religions need to be done away with -----they are the abomination as far as I am concerned ---
https://www.gotquestions.org/Charles-Parham.html
this is a piece of what he taught -----so A Big False Prophet --teaching False Doctrine Is what i see ----
Parham also began to advocate for annihilationist theology—the teaching that people who go to hell will eventually be annihilated rather than endure eternal punishment.
His Churches died out as this guy Seymour took his throne place ------the article says ------
It blows my mind what people are willing to listen to ------it is people like him who seem not to care where their students or Church ends up in there eternal homes -----crazy ----
All Religions need to be done away with -----they are the abomination as far as I am concerned ---
Yes exactly what I think as well many know my situation and they would be shocked and amazed to see a miracle like that and they would believe in God's power, but for whatever reason I still have not been healed and I wonder if it is just me that is the problem maybe my faith just isn't strong enough or maybe it's something else
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I never really knew that name before, but I find it interesting.
When i attended Church, I took notes that the Preacher gave and really paid little attention to what was being said and went home and read the entire Chapter those Verses were found to get a relative outlook of a big picture Interpretation. In my opinion, the Bible is all we need.
Yes, someone promoting Scripture is always a good thing and even in my own setting, I encourage those to not take my word for it, here are the Verses, read it in context to the whole Chapter or several Verses before/after. And if you think it has a meaning I did not mention or differs, tell me. Let's discuss this. Because more than anything else, I am a Student of God and His Holy Word, I am not the authority that confirms God's Word.
When i attended Church, I took notes that the Preacher gave and really paid little attention to what was being said and went home and read the entire Chapter those Verses were found to get a relative outlook of a big picture Interpretation. In my opinion, the Bible is all we need.
Yes, someone promoting Scripture is always a good thing and even in my own setting, I encourage those to not take my word for it, here are the Verses, read it in context to the whole Chapter or several Verses before/after. And if you think it has a meaning I did not mention or differs, tell me. Let's discuss this. Because more than anything else, I am a Student of God and His Holy Word, I am not the authority that confirms God's Word.
I am not sure how this will come across since we know nothing of one another, but, the Miracles that took place in my life was when I faced a situation completely out of my control. From a vehicle breaking down on a road we missed a turn and did not see was closed and some how a semi truck was on it that not only materialized before our eyes, but vanished before us as well. To a fire started by accident 1/3 mile away that ends up consuming literally 90% of my property and comes up to within 6 inches of my homes and buildings but never touches these structures and still consumes everything else surrounding these structures. When Police and Fire Investigators tell you this was a Miracle, they've seen enough Tragedy to know what a Miracle is.
But, I feel you are in that same position. So, I agree with You in the Name of Yeshua of Nazareth that You Will Be HEALED for His Glory, For His Power, through Your Testimony!
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Brother, God is going to do it even if your Faith is struggling, because, Your Testimony will be the source that will bring others closer to the knowledge of God!
I Believe!
The Miracles I experienced it was upon me so fast, I just knew it was beyond me and it required God. And I just gained the Strength as the tragedy continued through Prayer to God while in the midst of complete havoc. It was not until it was all over and said and done that I realized what happened. So just know, IT IS GOING TO HAPPEN!
I Believe!
The Miracles I experienced it was upon me so fast, I just knew it was beyond me and it required God. And I just gained the Strength as the tragedy continued through Prayer to God while in the midst of complete havoc. It was not until it was all over and said and done that I realized what happened. So just know, IT IS GOING TO HAPPEN!
The Fire was a literal 15 foot Wall just blazing through the windbreak and grasses. It was like a Wall that is moving right at you. You are between that Wall of fire and your home. It's not like a pre-planned reaction or scheme. It happened so fast, you just can only react and hope for the best. But knowing God, things just slowed down. i was able to have complete thoughts to remove my animals. I was able to be calm. If it was not for God, man, I would have broken down, rolled up like a child, and cried. It just happens so fast. That is how you can know it was God Who helped you.