Trinitarian analogy

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Buckle

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I am curious; what are some of the most intriguing or interesting or weird or bizarre or even helpful analogies explaining the Trinity that you have come across?

Please don't post you feelings about the word trinity, yes I know the word doesn't actually appear in the bible, or you theology of the trinity. I am just looking for actual analogies told to you, taught to you,ones you have tried to come up with yourself, etc.
 

2ndTimothyGroup

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When people ask me how I'm doing, depending on how it is, I often say,

Well, my body is fair, my spirit is 100% strong, but my heart/mind is broken.

It seems ironic to me that we can answer that standard question from three different perspectives. And so depending on how I feel, I could blindly answer that question from any of those three perspectives.

Because of developing physical problems that come with age, I'm often in pain, thus I might say, "I'm in bad shape today." Or, because I am fully aware that this is Satan's world, and that we struggle with loving one another, I might say that "My heart, or mind, is saddened for the state of the world." But because I KNOW that the Lord knows me, and because I have genuine Fear of the Lord, and because I KNOW of my Eternal Inheritance, I can say that my spirit is 100% strong.

Therefore, I take gladness in the fact that I suffer as I do. I consider these sufferings as a Blessing.

Mark 12:30 NLT - "And you must love the LORD your God with all your heart, all your soul, all your mind, and all your strength."

I could be wrong, but it seems like the heart and the mind are of the same? And maybe I am wrong to think that the Spirit equates to the soul.
 
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Some common analogies:

Analogy 1:

God is like the sun. There is a celestial body of burning mass (father), the rays of light that cross the vacuum (Holy Spirit), and the light that reaches us and warms us (the Son). Each part is experienced differently but all parts are inseparable aspects of one thing.

Analogy 2:

Each part of the Trinity is like a different part of a body. Each has a distinct function but each works with one unseen agency as a single and inseparable multitude of parts within one will.
 
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"A higher plane," hehe
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Each part of the Trinity is like a different part of a body. Each has a distinct function but each works with one unseen agency as a single and inseparable multitude of parts within one will.
This is quite profound, actually, since the Scriptures describe the Church this way. Many members, different roles, one body.

The Church can exemplify love between her members.

The Godhead can exemplify love between its members. After all, God is love, and God preceded all created things.
 

Subhumanoidal

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Like an apple pie. On the surface it's cut into three pieces, but inside its all one piece.
 
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TheIndianGirl

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Water, ice, and gas....all different with different characteristics but same at the same time.
 

ewq1938

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One soup put into three separate bowls. It's not three different soups but one soup portioned into three containers. Plus, no one made the soup. The soup has always existed and the flavor cannot change.
 

2ndTimothyGroup

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That's Modalism not Trinitarianism.
Deep.

Modalism: "the doctrine that the persons of the Trinity represent only three modes or aspects of the divine revelation, not distinct and coexisting persons in the divine nature."
 

2ndTimothyGroup

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One soup put into three separate bowls. It's not three different soups but one soup portioned into three containers. Plus, no one made the soup. The soup has always existed and the flavor cannot change.
Are the containers different?
 

p_rehbein

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I am curious; what are some of the most intriguing or interesting or weird or bizarre or even helpful analogies explaining the Trinity that you have come across?

Please don't post you feelings about the word trinity, yes I know the word doesn't actually appear in the bible, or you theology of the trinity. I am just looking for actual analogies told to you, taught to you,ones you have tried to come up with yourself, etc.

uh, er, hmm, lessee..... you don't want us to post what we think of the Trinity, only what we have been taught?

Yeah, that makes sense.........

Tell ya what............who don't YOU START IT OFF?
 

2ndTimothyGroup

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uh, er, hmm, lessee..... you don't want us to post what we think of the Trinity, only what we have been taught?

Yeah, that makes sense.........

Tell ya what............who don't YOU START IT OFF?
Rude
 
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First of all, Christ said concerning the Father, God is a Spirit, and we are to worship Him in Spirit and Truth.

Secondly, Christ is the WORD made flesh. Clearly, before becoming flesh, the WORD is also Spirit.

Thirdly, the Holy Spirit is a Spirit.

So, a correct explanation should involve Spirit and what relates to Spirit.
 

ewq1938

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Water, ice, and gas....all different with different characteristics but same at the same time.

https://www.christiantoday.com.au/news/the-trinity-is-like-waterand-other-bad-analogies.html

The Trinity is like water…and other bad analogies
By Haydn Lea - Press Service International

For those, like myself, who are not from a highly-liturgical denomination, it may come as a surprise that June 11 was ‘Trinity Sunday’. Despite its potential obscurity, Trinity Sunday is a great occasion for me to revisit an old article on the Trinity.

The Trinity is one of the most foundational doctrines of Christianity. It’s impossible to be an Orthodox Christian without professing belief in the Triune nature of God. To the other major monotheistic faiths (Islam and Judaism), it is rank heresy—Trinitarianism is therefore definitional to Christianity.

Yet it appears to be almost entirely misunderstood within contemporary evangelical circles.

A common (erroneous) explanation

I remember asking my Life Group last year, “How have you heard the Trinity explained?” I braced myself for the inevitable reply. Sure enough, one member answered “Well I’ve heard that the Trinity is like water: water can be liquid, gas (steam), or solid (ice), but it’s still the same water”.

It’s a very common explanation within the church to try to explain how God, who clearly exhorts His followers to preserve His supreme oneness (Deuteronomy chapter 6 verse 4), could also be identified with Jesus (Titus chapter 2 verse 13), and the Holy Spirit (Acts chapter 5 verses 3-4).

Common, yes. But there’s one problem: the water analogy is not the biblical picture of God. Before moving on I should note that providing a full theological explanation of Trinitarian doctrine is well beyond the scope of what I can do here. My intention is merely to address some common erroneous analogies, including water.

“That’s Modalism!”

Why is it wrong? An explanation that is so common, and seemingly does elucidate how something can simultaneously be three and one—can it really be that bad?

Well the issue is, the water analogy is akin to the heresy of Modalism. Modalism, or Sabellianism, denies the three distinct Persons of the Trinity and claims that God is one Person who appears in different ‘modes’ at different times—in the Old Testament He appeared as the Father, in the Gospels He appeared as the Son, and from Pentecost onwards He appears as the Holy Spirit.

Similarly, in our aquatic analogy, water can appear in three different modes, depending on the environment, but the three are not co-existing. H2O can only ever be one form at a time. Scripture however, doesn’t depict God this way. For instance at the baptism of Christ, the Father, Son and Spirit are all distinctly present and interacting (Matthew chapter 3 verses 16-17).

Other bad analogies

If water is inadequate, there are a wide array of alternative analogies we can turn to in modern theological parlance. Eggs are one, yet comprise yolk, shell and albumen. The sun comprises the sun itself, its light and its heat.

These are likewise erroneous or even heretical. Each part of the egg make up only one portion of the whole—the yolk is not the fullness of the egg. Yet the orthodox view is that each person of the Trinity is fully divine. Similarly, light and heat are simply creations of the sun, yet it is the heresy of Arianism to claim that the Son or Spirit are mere creations of the Father.


An alternative

So if all of these explanations are heretical, what is a good analogy? Unfortunately, an analogy from the limited realm of creation may not be sufficient in explaining God’s nature.

Perhaps we must be content to admit that we cannot fully understand God’s nature in our finitude. What we can understand and accept is that God exists eternally as one divine nature, substance, or essence, comprising three co-equal, co-eternal and consubstantial persons—the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. Each person is fully the one God, but is also distinct.

Why does it matter?

To return to my Life Group anecdote, after our discussion I asked “why does it even matter?”

We came up with several practical implications of this doctrine. In the first place, if we truly claim to love God, then surely we should endeavour to know Him. Although God is transcendent, sovereign, unapproachable light, He has condescended to reveal something of Himself to His creation. Therefore it behoves us to know what He has revealed (including the Trinity), and to lovingly worship Him accordingly.

In the second instance, the truth of God’s Trinity reveals a further aspect of God’s love for His people. If God has existed for all eternity in a perfectly loving Triune relationship, then it shows He is completely self-sufficient and requires no further relationship in order to ‘complete’ or ‘satisfy’ Himself. There was no relational deficiency that prompted God to create us. Yet God lovingly chose to create and eventually redeem us anyway (both thoroughly Trinitarian acts), at great cost to Himself.

Finally, I would suggest that the mere fact that we cannot understand the full depth of the Trinity (even with our myriad of analogies) has implications. It should bring us to realise that we truly are finite creatures standing before a sovereign, transcendent, divine mystery. The beautiful depth of God’s eternal Triune nature is a sublime reality which should bring an end to our attempts to cognitively master Him.

Our words should dissipate and be replaced instead with an awestruck adoration and wonder, as we realise the only appropriate response is to fall to our knees and humbly worship the one truly perfect, unified divine essence, comprising three diverse, co-equal and co-eternal divine persons.

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Haydn Lea is an Associate Pastor in Queensland, and is currently studying his Master of Arts (Theology). He has been a member of the Royal Australian Air Force since 2007, and is now training to be an Air Force Chaplain. He is married to Shamsa Lea, is the father of Amira, and loves boxing and studying Theology. Although he is one man who is simultaneously a husband, a father, and a student, he would consider it Modalism to suggest that this is a good Trinitarian analogy.