Do Jews still believe the Messiah is coming?

[pittsburghjoe]

Not sure if you see this in what your saying but if you think you can "pass a test" then your denying the blood of the Cross. Think about it Jesus is our "savoir" meaning he(his work not ours) saved us on the Cross. Anything short of salvation by the Lord Jesus Christ will leave you searching for what to do(works). This is because you don't believe he saved you on the Cross and so your going down an list of things you can do to "save yourself"(meaning your denying the blood of the Cross and it's salvation).

The Reborn Kingdom Image is Made from The Blood of CHRIST.

 

[iamsoandso]

The Reborn Kingdom Image is Made from The Blood of CHRIST.

You can see those who don't believe Jesus saved them on the Cross of Calvary,,,their works confess them because they are searching for the things they can do or not do because they don't believe that he did. You can tell those who do believe it because their telling you that Jesus saved you on the Cross. It's that simple you see your not your savoir nor am I,,,Jesus is, rest from your works.

 

[pittsburghjoe]

You can see those who don't believe Jesus saved them on the Cross of Calvary,,,their works confess them because they are searching for the things they can do or not do because they don't believe that he did. You can tell those who do believe it because their telling you that Jesus saved you on the Cross. It's that simple you see your not your savoir nor am I,,,Jesus is, rest from your works.

The Cross is The Throne of The Kingdom.

 

[iamsoandso]

The Cross is The Throne of The Kingdom.

When you believe in the salvation freely given to us while we were yet sinners you will leap with joy and you will find peace. You will cease from trying to talk people into doing something to get saved and begin explaining to them that he did save them. Your works will confess you either way in what you believe or deny.

 

[pittsburghjoe]

When you believe in the salvation freely given to us while we were yet sinners you will leap with joy and you will find peace. You will cease from trying to talk people into doing something to get saved and begin explaining to them that he did save them. Your works will confess you either way in what you believe or deny.

SALVATION is for GOD'S Children ...find out how to become one.

 

[iamsoandso]

SALVATION is for GOD'S Children ...find out how to become one.

And what shall we do in your opinion wait for another Messiah to come like the Jews in the OP or accomplish the the things you speak of in your list of things to do? You are as the Jews in the OP in that neither of you see the work of the Cross as enough to accomplish salvation.

 

[pittsburghjoe]

And what shall we do in your opinion wait for another Messiah to come like the Jews in the OP or accomplish the the things you speak of in your list of things to do? You are as the Jews in the OP in that neither of you see the work of the Cross as enough to accomplish salvation.

You haven't been paying attention to the thread, The Messianic Kingdom is already here ...right now.

 

[iamsoandso]

You haven't been paying attention to the thread, The Messianic Kingdom is already here ...right now.

Surly I've read along if you remember you ask me why I was posting in an Christian forum. I even saw a few pages back when you quoted Josephus,wars 6 If I remember correctly,,,have you read the writings of Josephus?

 

[pittsburghjoe]

Surly I've read along if you remember you ask me why I was posting in an Christian forum. I even saw a few pages back when you quoted Josephus,wars 6 If I remember correctly,,,have you read the writings of Josephus?

i have stuff of his pointed out to me ...it makes the Final Judgment of the Jews in 70 A.D. make sense with The Book of Revelation.

 

[iamsoandso]

i have stuff of his pointed out to me ...it makes the Final Judgment of the Jews in 70 A.D. make sense with The Book of Revelation.

Yes it seemed as though you might not have read it yourself but only had portions of it pointed out. I say this because of things you said in some of your post about the events of ad70 in that it seems you see the Jews then as having accomplished the things written in Revelation 13(I ask about it several pages back if you remember). In regards to Revelation 13 and the Jews it seems that some might think that those Jews saw Caesar/Rome as God and worshiped him/it as God but if you read Josephus wars,2 you will see that this is not the case at all in fact it was the cause of the revolt of ad66-70 in that the Jews refused to see Caesar as God and refused to worship it's images. http://penelope.uchicago.edu/josephus/war-2.html

 

[pittsburghjoe]

Yes it seemed as though you might not have read it yourself but only had portions of it pointed out. I say this because of things you said in some of your post about the events of ad70 in that it seems you see the Jews then as having accomplished the things written in Revelation 13(I ask about it several pages back if you remember). In regards to Revelation 13 and the Jews it seems that some might think that those Jews saw Caesar/Rome as God and worshiped him/it as God but if you read Josephus wars,2 you will see that this is not the case at all in fact it was the cause of the revolt of ad66-70 in that the Jews refused to see Caesar as God and refused to worship it's images. http://penelope.uchicago.edu/josephus/war-2.html

i'm not playing this game again where you end up insulting a Saint Author of The Bible for some bananas idea that doesn't come from a Christian.

 

[iamsoandso]

i'm not playing this game again where you end up insulting a Saint Author of The Bible for some bananas idea that doesn't come from a Christian.

Well I am an Christian(86 years so far) and you haven't had time to read wars 2(link I gave you 38 minutes ago) so how would you know if it's bananas or not? Just read it man you said you've had "some things" pointed out to you and I gave you the whole wars 2 book if I was trying to feed you a banana I would have cherry picked just a paragraph or two like the others instead of the entire book right?

 

[iamsoandso]

Oh it occurs to me that you might think that I am disproving the Revelation(insult an saint comment) but this is not the case,,,the point is that the Revelation is correct but based on Wars 2 from Josephus the Jews did not fulfill it(it's future tense)....

 

[kaylagrl]

If GOD Generates what our spirits experience in this test, is sin asking GOD to leave Him out of it causing a dead spirit?

Is it a question of existing as a Child of GOD via the Reborn Kingdom Image versus remaining an animal and being worldly?

Answer the question please!

 

[pittsburghjoe]

Answer the question please!

1 Corinthians 6:9-10
Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

Galatians 5:21
Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

Ephesians 5:5
For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.

 

[kaylagrl]

The Reborn Kingdom Image is Made from The Blood of CHRIST.

When you answer my first question, please answer this.

The Reborn Kingdom Image

Please show me the chapter and verse where I will find this phrase in the Bible, thank you.

 

[pittsburghjoe]

When you answer my first question, please answer this.

The Reborn Kingdom Image

Please show me the chapter and verse where I will find this phrase in the Bible, thank you.

1 Corinthians 15:49​

And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.​

Colossians 3:10​

And have put on the new man, which is RENEWED IN KNOWLEDGE AFTER THE IMAGE OF HIM THAT CREATED HIM:​

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• Are you using the beast's image in God's Temple?
• A Righteous spirit doesn’t care about man's achievements, money, and pride (image).

2 Corinthians 3:18​

But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord.​

 

[kaylagrl]

1 Corinthians 6:9-10
Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

Galatians 5:21
Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

Ephesians 5:5
For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.

My little children, I am writing these things to you so that you may not sin. And if anyone sins, we have an Advocate with the Father, Jesus ...

So this verse is a lie?!

 

[kaylagrl]

1 Corinthians 15:49​

And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.​

Colossians 3:10​

And have put on the new man, which is RENEWED IN KNOWLEDGE AFTER THE IMAGE OF HIM THAT CREATED HIM:​

The Reborn Kingdom Image... So the phrase is not in the Bible.

 

[pittsburghjoe]

The Reborn Kingdom Image... So the phrase is not in the Bible.

Oh, right, the dead spirit-ness ...okay, "image of the heavenly" is the Image of the Kingdom of Heaven ...Kingdom of GOD is the Kingdom of Heaven.

We are "borne the image of the earthy" ...then, somehow bear the new Image after we are Reborn ...Quickened.

A "new man" = Reborn.

You pass this test by upholding The Reborn Kingdom Image. It is THE WAY.