The False Teaching (& Truth) of what happens at the Rapture.
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When the 'prince of the power of the air' and his angels ARE CAST OUT OF HEAVEN AND DESCEND UPON THE EARTH, the DEADLY WOUND is healed, these lying signs and wonders are WITNESSED by the whole world. So when the image is set up the world is all to happy to worship after snake, the serpent, the dragon because THEY BELIEVE it is the SAVIOUR RETURNED as he has just saved the world.
but AS WE KNOW and so can't be deceived, it isn't really Christ at all, it is SATAN and his armies.
Which means
there isn't A 'CHURCH' on the planet that is still worshipping GOD and do you know why?
BECAUSE THEY WERE ALL TAUGHT THEY WERE GOING TO BE RAPTURED AWAY BEFORE HE CAME AND SO THEY DON'T HAVE A CLUE.
AND SINCE THEY WILL BELIEVE THAT LIE, THERE ISN'T ANY LIE THEY WONT BELIEVE.
SO THE CHURCH HAS MORPHED INTO SYNAGOGUE OF SATAN. AGAIN, un beknownst to them.
And what does that mean?
That the daily oblation is cut off.
WHY?
because the love of Gods people isn't going to HIM any more it is going to the one CALLING himself GOD. STANDING where he ought not, claiming to be GOD.
IT IS TRULY A DARK DARK NIGHT. THEN like a thief in the night, when least expected because the whole world is saying peace and safety
SUDDEN DESTRUCTION, RUN for the mountains and PRAY for them to fall on you because YOU KNOW AT THAT MOMENT YOU HAVE BEEN DECEIVED
THE ONE CLAIMING TO BE GOD IS REVEALED TO BE THE DRAGON.
AND YOU REALIZE IN THAT MOMENT THAT SOULS EVERY WHERE WERE DROPPING LIKE FLIES. WOMEN WERE BEING RAVAGED, AS THE ROBBERY OF ETERNAL LIFE FROM THOSE CLAIMING TO BE GODS CHILDREN, CLAIMING TO BE CHRISTIANS IS BROUGHT TO LIGHT BY THE BRIGHTNESS OF HIS RETURN.
AND as He arrives THE FIRST DEATH TO ALL WITH THE MARK OF THE BEAST and the dead rise THE WHORES. Worshipping after another GOD. allowing themselves to be deceived AND THEY HAD THE WORDS OF GOD RIGHT IN THEIR HANDS. COULD YOU IMAGINE IF THEY WERE TEACHERS OF SOMETHING OTHER THAN GODS TRUTH? JUDGEMENT STARTS RIGHT THERE BECAUSE EVERYONE WE TEACH A LIE TO, IS ON OUR HEADS.
BUT THOSE who did put on the armor, who remained faithful to GOD, they have no mark and the FIRST DEATH did not touch them so they are alive and remaining
they are CHANGED and will be ruling and reigning with Christ for the next 1000 years that Satan is bound.
Why, how do you think it goes?
If only you could get GOD to say it. WE know why you talk and talk and never produce anything from the Father.
WE know, IF IT WERE AT ALL POSSIBLE, YOU WOULD lay out scripture RIGHT NOW. But we have talked to all of you and none of you can. We are POSITIVE IT CAN'T BE DONE.
IF JUST ONE PERSON,
WOULD DO IT JUST ONE TIME
FROM BEGINNING TO END
WITH THE WORDS OF GOD,
WE WOULD SHUT UP.
BUT NOT ONE TIME EVER, NEVER NOT ONE TIME HAS ANYONE EVER BEEN ABLE TO DO IT. ALL TALK THE SAME GAME.
THIS ISN'T LITERAL, THIS WORD DOESN'T MEAN THAT, THIS IS BECAUSE THAT ISN'T THIS ISN'T BECAUSE THAT IS, YOU DONE BEFORE AND I JUST MISSED IT, YOU DID IT BUT I DIDN'T SEE IT...................................................................................
TILL THEN I WILL JUST KEEP PUTTING OUT THE SIMPLE TRUTH AGAIN AND AGAIN SO THAT EVERYONE SEARCHING WILL FIND THEY HAVE A CHOICE. SIMPLICITY OR CONFUSION. GODS WORDS OR MANS WORDS. IT IS WRITTEN OR HATH GOD SAID. IT IS CLEAR WATERS FOR SOME, IT IS MUDDY FOR OTHERS.
So you believe no church any more but not because of rapture, but because they betray real Jesus and worship ac?
I think most of Christian do worship ac, but not all, I believe there are small group of Christian risk they life and keep Jesus as it say in rev 13, some kill some jailed because refuse to take the mark
I think most of Christian do worship ac, but not all, I believe there are small group of Christian risk they life and keep Jesus as it say in rev 13, some kill some jailed because refuse to take the mark
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That's always been a false claim. The church is everywhere through those chapters.
Prophecy that Christian saints who are the Church would be killed during the Great Tribulation:
Rev 6:9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:
Rev 6:10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?
Rev 6:11 And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.
Rev 11:3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.
Rev 11:4 These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.
What are the two candlesticks?
Revelation 1:20 The mystery of the seven stars which thou sawest in my right hand, and the seven golden candlesticks. The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches: and the seven candlesticks which thou sawest are the seven churches.
"and the seven candlesticks which thou sawest are the seven churches"
Candlesticks represent churches which are groups of Christians who are part of The Church and they are right there in the Great Tribulation which proves the claims of Pre-trib to be wrong. The Church will go through the Great Tribulation. Many of that Church will leave the Church in the Apostasia but there will be many that don't become "Apostasia-ates".
Satan's wrath and starting the Great Tribulation which is a war against Christians/the church:
Rev 12:12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath , because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.
Rev 12:13 And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.
Rev 12:14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.
Rev 12:15 And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood.
Rev 12:16 And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth.
Rev 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
This war is the great tribulation and it is specifically a war against the remnant of the woman's seed AND those who have the testimony of Jesus Christ. That's the church!
The Christian saints who are the Church are killed during Satan's wrathful Great Tribulation are resurrected:
Rev 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God , and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years .
They were killed in the great tribulation. They weren't raptured to heaven before the great tribulation!
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No. "church" is not the only way to speak about Christians plus candlestick is a church.
The church is subject to wrath of satan not the wrath of God. It is quite obvious the Great Tribulation is something very bad that Christ said would happen to Christians. Anyone with basic English comprehension should be able to see that in Revelation and the Olivet Discourse.
I also supplied the scripture that prove this in Revelation. I can do so with Matthew also:
The Christian saints who are the Church are killed during Satan's wrathful Great Tribulation:
Mat 24:3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?
Mat 24:4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
Mat 24:5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
Mat 24:6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.
Mat 24:7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.
Mat 24:8 All these are the beginning of sorrows.
Mat 24:9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you : and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.
See? The church, the followers of Christ will NOT be raptured to heaven before all this happens. The church is right there and some will be killed for their faith in Christ. DON'T LET PRE-TRIBBERS TELL YOU THE OPPOSITE!
Mat 24:10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.
Mat 24:11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
Mat 24:12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.
Mat 24:13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
See again? Those of the church that endure unto the end of the Great Tribulation shall be saved!
Mat 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand: )
Mat 24:16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:
Mat 24:17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:
Mat 24:18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.
Mat 24:19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!
Mat 24:20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:
Mat 24:21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
Once again, the church that sees the AoD will physically flee to the mountains for those who live in that area. None of them are raptured before the AoD arrives! No Pre-trib rapture at all.
Mat 24:22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
The elect is the church and it's right there on Earth for the GT. The GT will be shortened so not all their flesh will perish.
Mat 24:23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
"You" is the church! People will tell you Christ has returned but DON'T BELIEVE IT! YOU will be there and see the Great Tribulation happen!
Anyone see a Pre-trib rapture in any of these scriptures?? No, because it is not a biblical doctrine.
The church is subject to wrath of satan not the wrath of God. It is quite obvious the Great Tribulation is something very bad that Christ said would happen to Christians. Anyone with basic English comprehension should be able to see that in Revelation and the Olivet Discourse.
I also supplied the scripture that prove this in Revelation. I can do so with Matthew also:
The Christian saints who are the Church are killed during Satan's wrathful Great Tribulation:
Mat 24:3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?
Mat 24:4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
Mat 24:5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
Mat 24:6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.
Mat 24:7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.
Mat 24:8 All these are the beginning of sorrows.
Mat 24:9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you : and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.
See? The church, the followers of Christ will NOT be raptured to heaven before all this happens. The church is right there and some will be killed for their faith in Christ. DON'T LET PRE-TRIBBERS TELL YOU THE OPPOSITE!
Mat 24:10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.
Mat 24:11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
Mat 24:12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.
Mat 24:13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
See again? Those of the church that endure unto the end of the Great Tribulation shall be saved!
Mat 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand: )
Mat 24:16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:
Mat 24:17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:
Mat 24:18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.
Mat 24:19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!
Mat 24:20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:
Mat 24:21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
Once again, the church that sees the AoD will physically flee to the mountains for those who live in that area. None of them are raptured before the AoD arrives! No Pre-trib rapture at all.
Mat 24:22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
The elect is the church and it's right there on Earth for the GT. The GT will be shortened so not all their flesh will perish.
Mat 24:23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
"You" is the church! People will tell you Christ has returned but DON'T BELIEVE IT! YOU will be there and see the Great Tribulation happen!
Anyone see a Pre-trib rapture in any of these scriptures?? No, because it is not a biblical doctrine.
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Any saints are the Church. Thus, the Church is going to go through the Great Tribulation as multiple scriptures prove. The two candlestick churches of the two witnesses are likely going to be modern version of Smyrna and Philadelphia. The other churches will be in the Great Tribulation also, some likely falling away in the Apostasy, and some simply are not part of the two witnesses but remain faithful to Christ.
So, as scripture shows, all of what shall remain of the Church is very present in the Great Tribulation. The Great Tribulation is all about what the Church must suffer from the wrath of satan, Revelation 11, 12 and 13 show that, along with the 5th seal and Revelation 20.
So, as scripture shows, all of what shall remain of the Church is very present in the Great Tribulation. The Great Tribulation is all about what the Church must suffer from the wrath of satan, Revelation 11, 12 and 13 show that, along with the 5th seal and Revelation 20.
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That is for the believers, the church to know the PURPOSES of God for - the Body of Christ, for Israel and for the nations. All that is addressed, brought to a conclusion in Revelation.
God`s word IS NOT ALL ABOUT US!!! We are NOT the centre of the universe, JESUS IS!
`And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, He (Jesus) expounded to them in all the Scriptures the things concerning Himself.` (Luke 24: 27)
As to the book of Revelation -
The predominant aim of Revelation is the setting forth the splendours of the Son of Man, & to reveal His glorious person. There are four visions of the Son of Man as He is known in the heavenly realm & each vision in turn carries through to completion one aspect of the fourfold ministry of Christ which He exercised when on earth. His Kinship was expressed in Matthew, His Heirship in Mark, His Mediatorship in Luke, & His Judgeship in John.
Vision 1. CHRIST - Head of the Body. (Rev. 1 – 3)
This reveals the empowered Son of Man as the Sovereign Administrator.
`in His right hand He held 7 stars.`
Vision 2. CHRIST - HEIR (Rev. 4 – 7)
This reveals the enthroned Son of Man as the Supreme Executor.
`in His right hand He held the 7 sealed book.`
Vision 3. CHRIST - MEDIATOR (Rev. 8 – 13)
This reveals the exalted Son of Man as the Stately Mediator.
`in His hand is a sacred censor.`
Vision 4. CHRIST - JUDGE (Rev. 14 – 22)
This reveals the entitled Son of Man as the Sublime Adjudicator.
`in His hand is a sharp sickle.`
To reveal Christ to us in Revelation, there are three hundred & thirty references to the figures, shadows, symbols, types, patterns, persons, & buildings of the Old Testament.
This unveiling is the culmination of all the truths expressed from Genesis to Revelation, for all scripture is centred on one purpose and that is to reveal Christ to us in all His Glory.
God`s word IS NOT ALL ABOUT US!!! We are NOT the centre of the universe, JESUS IS!
`And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, He (Jesus) expounded to them in all the Scriptures the things concerning Himself.` (Luke 24: 27)
As to the book of Revelation -
The predominant aim of Revelation is the setting forth the splendours of the Son of Man, & to reveal His glorious person. There are four visions of the Son of Man as He is known in the heavenly realm & each vision in turn carries through to completion one aspect of the fourfold ministry of Christ which He exercised when on earth. His Kinship was expressed in Matthew, His Heirship in Mark, His Mediatorship in Luke, & His Judgeship in John.
Vision 1. CHRIST - Head of the Body. (Rev. 1 – 3)
This reveals the empowered Son of Man as the Sovereign Administrator.
`in His right hand He held 7 stars.`
Vision 2. CHRIST - HEIR (Rev. 4 – 7)
This reveals the enthroned Son of Man as the Supreme Executor.
`in His right hand He held the 7 sealed book.`
Vision 3. CHRIST - MEDIATOR (Rev. 8 – 13)
This reveals the exalted Son of Man as the Stately Mediator.
`in His hand is a sacred censor.`
Vision 4. CHRIST - JUDGE (Rev. 14 – 22)
This reveals the entitled Son of Man as the Sublime Adjudicator.
`in His hand is a sharp sickle.`
To reveal Christ to us in Revelation, there are three hundred & thirty references to the figures, shadows, symbols, types, patterns, persons, & buildings of the Old Testament.
This unveiling is the culmination of all the truths expressed from Genesis to Revelation, for all scripture is centred on one purpose and that is to reveal Christ to us in all His Glory.
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That is not so. Christ suffered the judgment of God for us and as we are IN Christ we do not have to come under God`s judgment.
In fact WE, the Body of Christ will be judging the world system and fallen angels, (1 Cor. 6: 2& 3) plus ruling the nations with a `rod of iron,` through the trib, and beyond. (Rev. 2: 26 & 27)
To know the purposes of God for the rapture, trib, etc brings clarity to God`s word.
In fact WE, the Body of Christ will be judging the world system and fallen angels, (1 Cor. 6: 2& 3) plus ruling the nations with a `rod of iron,` through the trib, and beyond. (Rev. 2: 26 & 27)
To know the purposes of God for the rapture, trib, etc brings clarity to God`s word.
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Do these two words mean the same thing to you? Do you believe the wrath of Satan is the same as the Wrath of God?
2347. thlipsis
Strong's Concordance
thlipsis: tribulation
Original Word: θλῖψις, εως, ἡ
Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine
Transliteration: thlipsis
Phonetic Spelling: (thlip'-sis)
Definition: tribulation
Usage: persecution, affliction, distress, tribulation.
HELPS Word-studies
2347 thlípsis – properly, pressure (what constricts or rubs together), used of a narrow place that "hems someone in"; tribulation, especially internal pressure that causes someone to feel confined (restricted, "without options").
2347 /thlípsis ("compression, tribulation") carries the challenge of coping with the internal pressure of a tribulation, especially when feeling there is "no way of escape" ("hemmed in").
[By contrast, 4730 (stenoxōría) focuses on the external pressure exerted by circumstances.]
2372. thumos
Strong's Concordance
thumos: passion
Original Word: θυμός, οῦ, ὁ
Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine
Transliteration: thumos
Phonetic Spelling: (thoo-mos')
Definition: passion
Usage: an outburst of passion, wrath.
HELPS Word-studies
2372 thymós (from thyō, "rush along, getting heated up, breathing violently," cf. J. Thayer) – properly, passion-driven behavior, i.e. actions emerging out of strong impulses (intense emotion).
When 2372 /thymós ("expressed passion") is used of people it indicates rage (personal venting of anger, worth). This flaw is completely absent of the Lord expressing (inspiring) intense anger. Accordingly, 2372 (thymós) is used of God's perfect, holy wrath in Revelation (Rev 14:10,19,15:1, etc.). This anger is directed against sin with intense opposition and without sin.
[Only the Lord exercises righteous wrath, so we must depend solely on Him as we experience (express) anger.]
Revelation 14:10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:
2347. thlipsis
Strong's Concordance
thlipsis: tribulation
Original Word: θλῖψις, εως, ἡ
Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine
Transliteration: thlipsis
Phonetic Spelling: (thlip'-sis)
Definition: tribulation
Usage: persecution, affliction, distress, tribulation.
HELPS Word-studies
2347 thlípsis – properly, pressure (what constricts or rubs together), used of a narrow place that "hems someone in"; tribulation, especially internal pressure that causes someone to feel confined (restricted, "without options").
2347 /thlípsis ("compression, tribulation") carries the challenge of coping with the internal pressure of a tribulation, especially when feeling there is "no way of escape" ("hemmed in").
[By contrast, 4730 (stenoxōría) focuses on the external pressure exerted by circumstances.]
2372. thumos
Strong's Concordance
thumos: passion
Original Word: θυμός, οῦ, ὁ
Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine
Transliteration: thumos
Phonetic Spelling: (thoo-mos')
Definition: passion
Usage: an outburst of passion, wrath.
HELPS Word-studies
2372 thymós (from thyō, "rush along, getting heated up, breathing violently," cf. J. Thayer) – properly, passion-driven behavior, i.e. actions emerging out of strong impulses (intense emotion).
When 2372 /thymós ("expressed passion") is used of people it indicates rage (personal venting of anger, worth). This flaw is completely absent of the Lord expressing (inspiring) intense anger. Accordingly, 2372 (thymós) is used of God's perfect, holy wrath in Revelation (Rev 14:10,19,15:1, etc.). This anger is directed against sin with intense opposition and without sin.
[Only the Lord exercises righteous wrath, so we must depend solely on Him as we experience (express) anger.]
Revelation 14:10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:
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