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Pilgrimshope

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You couldn't have misjudged me more than you have. I could care less what others have to say about me. Re-read what I've written. I've stated clearly that I don't have time for nonsense. I'm super busy and frankly, tired of getting nowhere.

But . . . thanks?
alright we’ll enjoy the self Pity and being victimized anytime someone doesn’t agree with you
 

2ndTimothyGroup

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alright we’ll enjoy the self Pity and being victimized anytime someone doesn’t agree with you
Why do you think you people are so triggered by me?

Edit - That's another very nice putdown, btw. Gosh, you guys are good at this!
 

Pilgrimshope

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Why do you think you people are so triggered by me?

Edit - That's another very nice putdown, btw. Gosh, you guys are good at this!
honestly brother I think you sometimes see offense where it doesn’t exist because people don’t always agree with how you are saying what you say

I think you take offense when it’s often not intended. I also Thy ink you believe you are beyond learning anything so your interest is just to get everyone to agree with what you say

to be honest with you I find a lot of good value in some of what you say you have good things to say of value to Christians. Not everything you have to say do I agree with but it shouldn’t offend you or make you think of someone doesn’t agree they are attacking you or are a heretic or anything

I think you could work on whether you let yourself get offended easily. I only say that because I struggled with the same issue when I came here. Our beliefs are very important to us part of who we are now so it’s easy to take it personal if someone doesn’t get it or doesn’t agree

but I try ink it’s on us to make sure we’re walking in the right spirit and not taking offense but rejoicing and looking past insults, offenses arguments of opposition ect and if people don’t agree or want to not talk to us pray and bless them and move on to another who may be a fruitful partner in learning

I would actually like to be able to discuss with you but you seem to take offense each time and then after a could comments your end communication “ no thanks see ya !”

it’s obvious that you are getting offended but with all
My heart it wasn’t intended in any discussion I’ve had with you I think part of the issue is your perceiving offense easily but that’s again not meant to offend you just an answer to your question and it’s only my own thought to offer
 

2ndTimothyGroup

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honestly brother I think you sometimes see offense where it doesn’t exist because people don’t always agree with how you are saying what you say

I think you take offense when it’s often not intended. I also Thy ink you believe you are beyond learning anything so your interest is just to get everyone to agree with what you say

to be honest with you I find a lot of good value in some of what you say you have good things to say of value to Christians. Not everything you have to say do I agree with but it shouldn’t offend you or make you think of someone doesn’t agree they are attacking you or are a heretic or anything

I think you could work on whether you let yourself get offended easily. I only say that because I struggled with the same issue when I came here. Our beliefs are very important to us part of who we are now so it’s easy to take it personal if someone doesn’t get it or doesn’t agree

but I try ink it’s on us to make sure we’re walking in the right spirit and not taking offense but rejoicing and looking past insults, offenses arguments of opposition ect and if people don’t agree or want to not talk to us pray and bless them and move on to another who may be a fruitful partner in learning

I would actually like to be able to discuss with you but you seem to take offense each time and then after a could comments your end communication “ no thanks see ya !”

it’s obvious that you are getting offended but with all
My heart it wasn’t intended in any discussion I’ve had with you I think part of the issue is your perceiving offense easily but that’s again not meant to offend you just an answer to your question and it’s only my own thought to offer
Well, you're definitely not a prophet nor a mind reader. You couldn't be any further from the Truth in understanding me. Now, if you'd like to schedule a time to have a Zoom or Web Meeting "call" with me, that would be more beneficial.

Are you able to face me after you've told me that I'm having a "pity party"?

If you're too afraid to talk to video-call me by yourself, invite your pastor and we can go over your comments together. What do you say?
 

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For somebody who claims to be so busy studying,you sure are on here alot.....lol

It is true about you puffing up like a banty rooster,if you're called on what you say.

Zoom with God,he may be the only one you can't bluff,and maybe you'll listen to him.
 

Pilgrimshope

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Well, you're definitely not a prophet nor a mind reader. You couldn't be any further from the Truth in understanding me. Now, if you'd like to schedule a time to have a Zoom or Web Meeting "call" with me, that would be more beneficial.

Are you able to face me after you've told me that I'm having a "pity party"?

If you're too afraid to talk to video-call me by yourself, invite your pastor and we can go over your comments together. What do you say?
Lol no I don't need your advice or you to discuss my comments with my pastor thanks though.
 
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I don't find Scripture to be confusing. I once did. But I find your understanding of Scripture to be confusing.
Your point is important.
Many make it confusing.

We are reminded that there are only three things we must do to satisfy God's standards for eternal salvation;

1 Repentance
2.Baptism
3. Maintain a righteous life according to Gods' commandments....until the end.
 

Journeyman

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Let me know when you'd like to set up a Zoom or Web Meeting. I'd like to hear you say the things you've posted for all to read . . . to my face.
I don't know what your point is in saying something in person. I've disagreed with a few pastors face to face.

God also says,

I have sent also unto you all my servants the prophets,rising up early and sending them, saying, Return ye now every man from his evil way, and amend your doings, and go not after other gods to serve them, and ye shall dwell in the land which I have given to you and to your fathers: but ye have not inclined your ear, nor hearkened unto me. Jer.35:15

There's a difference between not being able to repent and not wanting to repent. God sending messengers so that sinners would repent shows that your view is wrong. We're all wrong at times. Receiving correction is a good thing. :)
 

2ndTimothyGroup

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I don't know what your point is in saying something in person.
Why does it matter? Why do you think some are so engrossed with me that they can't simply walk away? I've been trying walk away and let this rest, but obviously, others don't feel that way. Why do you think that is? Control? Dominance? Testing personal power? Attempts to develop personal confidence?

Now in my mid-fifties, and with the increased nature of being able to communicate with one another online, be it in forums or ever YouTube, society is using these platforms to develop their personal sense of confidence and strength. We use these platforms as a place to sharpen our skills at moving beyond cowardice, self-loathing, and disgust. Places like this are used as the practice ground to learn how to stand up and face others in a powerful and aggressive manner . . . and they're allowed to do it. Bullying, harassment, goading, demanding, ridiculing, berating and belittling . . . that's what this thread has turned into. It doesn't bother me; rather, I find it fascinating.

2 Samuel 16:5-11 NKJV - "Now when King David came to Bahurim, there was a man from the family of the house of Saul, whose name [was] Shimei the son of Gera, coming from there. He came out, cursing continuously as he came. 6 And he threw stones at David and at all the servants of King David. And all the people and all the mighty men [were] on his right hand and on his left. 7 Also Shimei said thus when he cursed: "Come out! Come out! You bloodthirsty man, you rogue! 8 "The LORD has brought upon you all the blood of the house of Saul, in whose place you have reigned; and the LORD has delivered the kingdom into the hand of Absalom your son. So now you [are caught] in your own evil, because you are a bloodthirsty man!" 9 Then Abishai the son of Zeruiah said to the king, "Why should this dead dog curse my lord the king? Please, let me go over and take off his head!" 10 But the king said, "What have I to do with you, you sons of Zeruiah? So let him curse, because the LORD has said to him, 'Curse David.' Who then shall say, 'Why have you done so?' " 11 And David said to Abishai and all his servants, "See how my son who came from my own body seeks my life. How much more now [may this] Benjamite? Let him alone, and let him curse; for so the LORD has ordered him."
 

2ndTimothyGroup

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Your point is important.
Many make it confusing.

We are reminded that there are only three things we must do to satisfy God's standards for eternal salvation;

1 Repentance
2.Baptism
3. Maintain a righteous life according to Gods' commandments....until the end.
I wish you the best. Take care and may the Lord Bless you beyond imagination.
 

Pilgrimshope

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All the more reason to have a Zoom Call with me. If you're concerned, then help me.
I have no desire to zoom call you or anyone else I don’t even know exactly what a zoom call is and don’t have a zoom phone.

I’m sure if you ask a few people someone would like to zoom call you though. I’m not interested in zoom calling or video chatting with anyone wouldn’t even know how
 

2ndTimothyGroup

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I have no desire to zoom call you or anyone else I don’t even know exactly what a zoom call is and don’t have a zoom phone.

I’m sure if you ask a few people someone would like to zoom call you though. I’m not interested in zoom calling or video chatting with anyone wouldn’t even know how
When are you going to be done with harassing me? Seriously! I don't understand the wild fascination that you have with me. Certainly, there MUST be someone else for you to bother.
 

Pilgrimshope

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When are you going to be done with harassing me? Seriously! I don't understand the wild fascination that you have with me. Certainly, there MUST be someone else for you to bother.
how am I harassing you lol ? By not agreeing and praising your great intellect ?

I’ve never harassed you in fact out two weeks ago you told me you didn’t want to discuss anymore with me and I respected that then you began with the same thing a couple days ago.

so I asked you to show me in scriptire ehat you are so sure of which you said no problem and then launched into a 2500 word explaination that had kettle relevant scripture so I asked again if you could show on scripture what you were saying lol now we’re here again like when you got offended and asked me not to communicate with you which I’m good with that like before I’ll go ahead and move on again

I’m learning that any interaction with you is a distraction and leads to offense and then bizarre accusations of how people are harassing you and attacking you

it’s a waste of our time . You should learn to not perceive offense when someone doesn’t agree or understand what you are saying

but anyways I’m gonna move on you go ahead and reply and have the last word I’m going to move on to discuss the Bible with people who aren’t constantly wearing offense on thier sleeve and seeing themself as a victim when people don’t agree with what they are saying
 

2ndTimothyGroup

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how am I harassing you lol ? By not agreeing and praising your great intellect ?

I’ve never harassed you in fact out two weeks ago you told me you didn’t want to discuss anymore with me and I respected that then you began with the same thing a couple days ago.

so I asked you to show me in scriptire ehat you are so sure of which you said no problem and then launched into a 2500 word explaination that had kettle relevant scripture so I asked again if you could show on scripture what you were saying lol now we’re here again like when you got offended and asked me not to communicate with you which I’m good with that like before I’ll go ahead and move on again

I’m learning that any interaction with you is a distraction and leads to offense and then bizarre accusations of how people are harassing you and attacking you

it’s a waste of our time . You should learn to not perceive offense when someone doesn’t agree or understand what you are saying

but anyways I’m gonna move on you go ahead and reply and have the last word I’m going to move on to discuss the Bible with people who aren’t constantly wearing offense on thier sleeve and seeing themself as a victim when people don’t agree with what they are saying
Please stop harassing me and find yourself a new thing to play with.
 

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Why does it matter? Why do you think some are so engrossed with me that they can't simply walk away? I've been trying walk away and let this rest, but obviously, others don't feel that way. Why do you think that is? Control? Dominance? Testing personal power? Attempts to develop personal confidence?

Now in my mid-fifties, and with the increased nature of being able to communicate with one another online, be it in forums or ever YouTube, society is using these platforms to develop their personal sense of confidence and strength. We use these platforms as a place to sharpen our skills at moving beyond cowardice, self-loathing, and disgust. Places like this are used as the practice ground to learn how to stand up and face others in a powerful and aggressive manner . . . and they're allowed to do it. Bullying, harassment, goading, demanding, ridiculing, berating and belittling . . . that's what this thread has turned into. It doesn't bother me; rather, I find it fascinating.
I won't speak for others, but I continue discussing because correction is needed.

2 Samuel 16:5-11 NKJV - "Now when King David came to Bahurim, there was a man from the family of the house of Saul, whose name [was] Shimei the son of Gera, coming from there. He came out, cursing continuously as he came. 6 And he threw stones at David and at all the servants of King David. And all the people and all the mighty men [were] on his right hand and on his left. 7 Also Shimei said thus when he cursed: "Come out! Come out! You bloodthirsty man, you rogue! 8 "The LORD has brought upon you all the blood of the house of Saul, in whose place you have reigned; and the LORD has delivered the kingdom into the hand of Absalom your son. So now you [are caught] in your own evil, because you are a bloodthirsty man!" 9 Then Abishai the son of Zeruiah said to the king, "Why should this dead dog curse my lord the king? Please, let me go over and take off his head!" 10 But the king said, "What have I to do with you, you sons of Zeruiah? So let him curse, because the LORD has said to him, 'Curse David.' Who then shall say, 'Why have you done so?' " 11 And David said to Abishai and all his servants, "See how my son who came from my own body seeks my life. How much more now [may this] Benjamite? Let him alone, and let him curse; for so the LORD has ordered him."
God didn't make Shimei lie, but did allow him to say untrue things about David. God tranforms believers through adversity.
 

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I won't speak for others, but I continue discussing because correction is needed.

God didn't make Shimei lie, but did allow him to say untrue things about David. God tranforms believers through adversity.
Please stop harassing me.