The lie that we are sinless if we are saved

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RichMan

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It's just sad how blind people are. The kneejerk reaction to hearing that someone doesn't sin is to lash out at it.
When people say they do not sin they are calling my Lord a liar and that angers me and I will not stand for it.
 
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When people say they do not sin they are calling my Lord a liar and that angers me and I will not stand for it.
i'm using JESUS to tell you The Truth of the situation we are in. Your dead spirit is blind to It because you can't stop eating from the wrong tree long enough to realize you are attacking The Light.
 

PennEd

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Doesn't the bible teach the opposite that it does?

Isaiah 59:2
But your iniquities have separated you from your God; And your sins have hidden His face from you, So that He will not hear.
Romans 8:38-39

New King James Version

38 For I am persuaded that neither death nor life, nor angels nor principalities nor powers, nor things present nor things to come, 39 nor height nor depth, nor any other created thing, shall be able to separate us from the love of God which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.



Nothing can separate us, except of course going over the speed limit 1 mile per hour, getting angry at someone, glancing at person for a split second thinking you'd like to sleep with them.....

Oh, and don't forget those sins of omission! Giving every cent to someone in need, letting the homeless sleep at your house, having two coats, etc...

These guys constantly lower God's perfect standard, and don't really even understand what sin is. Such an insult to the Blood of Christ!

There remains no longer a Sacrifice for those.
 
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RichMan

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i'm using JESUS to tell you The Truth of the situation we are in. Your dead spirit is blind to It because you can't stop eating from the wrong tree long enough to realize you are attacking The Light.
The sad truth is that you cannot see the truth.
Satan has blinded you to the fact that only one man has ever lived a sinless life.
That man was Jesus and He died so that we would not suffer the judgment of eternal Hell.
And your response is that you are equal to the very Son of God.
You are a liar.
I pray that you will repent before God silences you.
 
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Do any of you think there is something causing you to take that drug or do that sexual act? Are you telling me you can't stop yourself? You are addicted to sin ...there will be withdrawals, but you can pull though it. This entire reality is a test to see if you can!
 

PennEd

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Do any of you think there is something causing you to take that drug or do that sexual act? Are you telling me you can't stop yourself? You are addicted to sin ...there will be withdrawals, but you can pull though it. This entire reality is a test to see if you can!
Is that what your understanding of sin is? Drugs and sex?
 

PennEd

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Are you pretending that this is not what the fight is actually about?
What!?

You think if you somehow refrain from sexual sin, and don't take a drug, (presumably illegal), you don't sin?


Whoah!!!
 
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What!?

You think if you somehow refrain from sexual sin, and don't take a drug, (presumably illegal), you don't sin?


Whoah!!!
Nice try, it's the core of what the people on this site refuse to stop doing. After you get over those ...the others are easy.
 

studentoftheword

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not my job to worry but trust the gospel and hope they belong to God
Excellent Post ---and so right -----we can't change anyone but ourselves and only God can change others ---We can set an example of how true Christians are to act by actually putting the fruits of the Spirit into practice and hope that one notices God is working in our lives and we can then plant a seed in their mind --but that is all we can do ------God is the only one who knows their heart ----
 

PennEd

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Nice try, it's the core of what the people on this site refuse to stop doing. After you get over those ...the others are easy.
Ridiculous. But let's explore this a bit, so I can attempt to understand where you are coming from.

Not a trick question.

Are you sexually attracted to men or women?
 
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Ridiculous. But let's explore this a bit, so I can attempt to understand where you are coming from.

Not a trick question.

Are you sexually attracted to men or women?
What do you think RichMan is so upset about? He can't stop himself ...he loves his sin more than CHRIST.

i was attracted to women while i was still a dead spirit.
 
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SophieT

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#53
A better way to put it is:

Is it possible to overcome the flesh and not give in to it's desires and be completely obedient to the Lord one's entire life?
then the answer is still no

:giggle:
 

PennEd

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What do you think RichMan is so upset about? He can't stop himself ...he loves his sin more than CHRIST.

i was attracted to women while i was still a dead spirit.
Be careful This is the type of accusation against other members that get's a person banned.

How old are you? You are saying you are no longer attracted to women?
 
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SophieT

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JESUS Lived His whole Life Sinless ...i've only been doing it for a year or so ...through Him!

Do you use the same excuse over and over again right before you sin? You gave into your animal side ...the beast.

Do you say, "oh, i have cherry picked Scripture, that i misinterpret, that says i can sin."?

Who do you think you are fooling?

You are either a Pillar of GOD'S Kingdom or you sin with self-idolatry for satan's kingdom (worldly babylon).

You are not a Child of GOD if you are sinning. HOLY SPIRIT Oil can't be in a corrupted Temple.

With JESUS as The Head of The Body of CHRIST, we use Him as a periscope to see beyond the veil of death (satan's kingdom / worldly babylon / self-idolatry).

You have no idea what i'm talking about when you have sin in your life. You eat from the wrong tree and blinded yourself.

Children of GOD can perceive The Narrow Path of SALVATION (The Kingdom of GOD / Tree of LIFE).

You pretend to be a Child ...when you are a tare. You can only handle the literal because GOD isn't Reading It to you. You are stuck on your animal side.

The whole reason this place exists if for GOD to find people His Presence can be around ...do you really think you have anything to do with that?

We are Reborn into The Body of CHRIST ...The Kingdom. What part of that statement sounds like sin is allowed?

What do you think satan is tempting you with? Obviously it is to fall out of The Holy Body ...to ruin your Image ...with some horns.

Does anyone get what it takes to actually hold The Reborn Image that SAVES?

How can JESUS Represent you on The Cross unless you have His Image (Blood)?

Do you want GOD to know you at Judgment or not?

The Garden is the mind ...temptation happens there. GOD Breathed an Image into Adam (us as a baby). sin ruins it, we need The Reborn Image CHRIST Made for us to pass this test.
only a year then?

that could be why you are so confused and spouting so much nonsense

you seem to like to compare yourself to everyone else in every thread you insert yourself into...aka damage...

that would make you foolish since we do not compare ourselves to others
 
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Be careful This is the type of accusation against other members that get's a person banned.

How old are you? You are saying you are no longer attracted to women?
Accusation? You can't get more obvious than what he already said to me.

i'm celebrate and middle aged.
 
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SophieT

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Well, it isn't about continuing in sin either. So what's it about?
if you do not know what the NT is about, perhaps it is about time you began to read and study it

then we can talk
 

CherieR

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Doesn't the bible teach the opposite that it does?

Isaiah 59:2
But your iniquities have separated you from your God; And your sins have hidden His face from you, So that He will not hear.

Jesus already paid the price for our sins. Because of Jesus death and resurrection, sin cannot separate those whose faith is in Christ.


Romans 8:37-39 states:
No, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him who loved us. For I am sure that neither death nor life, nor angels nor rulers, nor things present nor things to come, nor powers, nor height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Romans 8:37‭-‬39 ESV

https://bible.com/bible/59/rom.8.37-39.ESV
 

PennEd

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Accusation? You can't get more obvious than what he already said to me.

i'm celebrate and middle aged.
So if a Beautiful woman came up to you at the beach, with a string bikini, and started chatting you up, what would your reaction be?
 
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SophieT

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Accusation? You can't get more obvious than what he already said to me.

i'm celebrate and middle aged.
celebrate? women everywhere applaud your decision...which has nothing to do with salvation or your mistaken sinlessness

thank you for illustrating just how wrong and corrupted the idea of sinlessness actually is