Russia preparing for war

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Aidan1

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I started this thread to discuss Russia preparing for war and how that fit into the Global elites plan to get one world government.

To claim that we cannot talk about Ukraine being a corrupt dictatorship without also talking about Trump seems like a pathetic attempt to change the subject. This is not a thread about how all governments are corrupt, nor is this about Trump. You seem to have Trump delusion syndrome in which every subject somehow must be tied to Trump. Seems amazing that Russia could begin a war at your doorstep and you are still caught up in this TDS more than a year after Trump left office. Have you considered counseling?
Finaly it is Gods plan for the future. Not the human Plan.
Present nobody knows which consequences this war will have.
Again i dont want change the subject, but you was the One who claimed that the Ukraine is an dictatorship state. Is it allowed to not agree with you and have an different meaning or conclusion? Your posts lets suggest, that everybody who is not agree with you is brainwashed, an idiot, or is suffering under TDS.
I mentioned only that their is no much different in the behaviour between Putin and Trump. For to recocnize this I must not be brainwashed or an idiot. You must only compare thrm both in the way they treat people who are not agreeing with them.
And you are on the best way t follow them.
Otherwise I cant understand why you attack my person.
 

Aidan1

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Starting with the Supreme Court all the corrupt courts refused to allow the evidence to public public knowledge. Do you know anything about the huge numbers of illegal ballots counted for Biden? Kindly educate yourself.
As I said, you are poor to live in such a corrupt and unjustice country, that you cant find a single uncorrupt and justice court.
Even the republicans, Trumps own Party could not proof that his claimes are right?
Maby because the results were correct?
 

ZNP

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Finaly it is Gods plan for the future. Not the human Plan.
Present nobody knows which consequences this war will have.
Again i dont want change the subject, but you was the One who claimed that the Ukraine is an dictatorship state. Is it allowed to not agree with you and have an different meaning or conclusion? Your posts lets suggest, that everybody who is not agree with you is brainwashed, an idiot, or is suffering under TDS.
I mentioned only that their is no much different in the behaviour between Putin and Trump. For to recocnize this I must not be brainwashed or an idiot. You must only compare thrm both in the way they treat people who are not agreeing with them.
And you are on the best way t follow them.
Otherwise I can't understand why you attack my person.
Calling Ukraine a dictatorship is because they have arrested the opposition party and thrown them in jail.

Trump never did anything like that.

Now Biden and his administration has encouraged Canada to act as a dictator in seizing the bank accounts of anyone who supported the truckers.

There have been people in Biden's administration who have called for anyone in the opposition party (voted for Trump) to lose their job or in some other way be punished but so far they have not acted on those tyrannical impulses.

But, OK, you have a different opinion than me. Please tell me what actions Trump took when he was president that is comparable to arresting someone from the opposition party and putting them in jail.

The real question here is whether or not the US should aid Ukraine and if so in what way? Since we are part of NATO and this is a European issue I think that it is up to NATO, but that is simply my opinion.

I could certainly understand Europe wanting to aid Ukraine with weapons to defend themselves, but after our debacle in Afghanistan I would not want to give Biden anything that he could then turn over to our enemies to use to attack us. I also think that this brings Biden's crime family involvement with the Ukraine into greater focus. Biden, Pelosi and John Kerry are all compromised in their relationship with the Ukraine. Again, that is my opinion, of course as a US citizen i would hope my opinion would carry more weight in the US than a German citizen's opinion.
 

Aidan1

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There is no rightsystem in America. You're thinking of a different country.
Chief Justice John Roberts could be heard screaming in opposition to the case, and in chambers when Trump's case concerning the steal of the election, with proof, and there's plenty after as we know, was proposed before the USSC.

When Roberts refuses to uphold the law, and Pence proves himself a traitor, what do you propose Trump do? His call to protest the steal was hijacked by the Left wing domestic anti-America terrorists to make yet again Conservatives look radical, and Trump appear to have called for that to happen. He didn't. His enemies did.
You are a splittet nation. You hate all democrates and see the enemy in them. How should america become great again if you are not able to live in peace and respect with those which have not the same partybook then you?
I am from my childhood on an great america Fan. And of course my Sympathie is more to the rep Party then to the dem Party, because the rep represent more the Christian values.
But it was a miracle to me that you put Trump in such a high heaven. In claiming to be an Christian He destroyed a lot of as witness through his behaviour.
 

ZNP

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You are a splittet nation. You hate all democrates and see the enemy in them. How should america become great again if you are not able to live in peace and respect with those which have not the same partybook then you?
I am from my childhood on an great america Fan. And of course my Sympathie is more to the rep Party then to the dem Party, because the rep represent more the Christian values.
But it was a miracle to me that you put Trump in such a high heaven. In claiming to be an Christian He destroyed a lot of as witness through his behaviour.
Got it, you have absolutely nothing to back up your claim that Trump is just as dictatorial as the Ukraine.
 

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You are a splittet nation. You hate all democrates and see the enemy in them. How should america become great again if you are not able to live in peace and respect with those which have not the same partybook then you?
I am from my childhood on an great america Fan. And of course my Sympathie is more to the rep Party then to the dem Party, because the rep represent more the Christian values.
But it was a miracle to me that you put Trump in such a high heaven. In claiming to be an Christian He destroyed a lot of as witness through his behaviour.
If you're not an America you're just a spectator. And a hateful one is of no good to liberty even in their own land.

I see the Democratic party members currently present in Washington D.C. as enemies of America because they represent, literally, they are enemies of America.

While what many who profess Christ fail in doing is realizing, Donald Trump pre-Christ is dead. His sins are forgiven by God and shall never be held against him.

President Donald Trump represented Christ while in office and far beyond what the former Muslim in office would have ever allowed. President Trump proved himself a friend of Israel in word and action. Something both Democratic and Republican presidents before had only done in lip service. Not action.

President Trump wasn't perfect. No one is. However, he is a master of the game. And we must remember prior to turning to the Republican party to run for the very first time for a public office, the highest office, he was a Democrat. He's switched parties numerous times in his life.

In that regard and as he revealed during his campaign, he rubbed elbows with members of both parties in Congress. He gave them loads of money for their re-election campaigns too. He knows how they work and he used that to his advantage.

When Trump would speak out of turn as some called it, it was for a reason. It served a purpose. Donald Trump is very well spoken. And as he said in his book, and in an interview while president. It's good to be underestimated.
Which is what his seeming rude rhetoric afforded in others watching him.

Meanwhile, he in four short years brought America back from the precipice his predecessors led us to. Because Donald Trump is a businessman and ran America like a business. His predecessors wanted America to go bankrupt and fall from its place as the worlds most powerful nation. They wanted us to be the nanny country and no wonder, when the Left push a nanny government in order for the sucklings to vote Democrat out of gratitude every two and four years.

Donald Trump intended to ween the sucklers and turn their appetites to the meat of a sound governance=government and a strong economy.

And that is why he is out of office! Because the enemies of all of that intend to destroy America. And they're paid very well for their treason.

And for the record, RINO's don't count as Conservatives in our Congress. They count their money received for joining the Left in spirit, and lying to the Conservative base in public. In a truly righteous act of jurisprudence every last one would be under arrest after being impeached from office. And those who left office after committing an act of treason would be in a federal penitentiary for the rest of their life! All assets seized, regardless of where their bank accounts were established. Not even the black robe of the loftiest bench in America would be safe from handcuffs. And life without parole!

But this is the new America. One day we'll tire of the neo-betrayal of American values and integrity. We'll set fire to the papier mâché puppet show that we witness now dancing on strings and acting as a Representative Democratic Republic, and we'll free our country and our people yet again from the tyranny of evil men and women.

Not in my lifetime probably. But one day. Sooner or later people have to realize, if they want change they're going to have to be willing to sacrifice living comfortably in the chains they complain are there yet do nothing about. Because the things they own turn out are owning them.

Revolution is born from Revelation.

God knows it's time.
 

gb9

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As I said, you are poor to live in such a corrupt and unjustice country, that you cant find a single uncorrupt and justice court.
Even the republicans, Trumps own Party could not proof that his claimes are right?
Maby because the results were correct?

you believe the covid numbers are real and that ivermectin and hydroxy do not work.

so, of course you think biden's " victory" is legitimate.
 

ZNP

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you believe the covid numbers are real and that ivermectin and hydroxy do not work.

so, of course you think biden's " victory" is legitimate.
Maybe it is because he "sees dead people"?
 

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Just thinking outside the box here real quick: What happens if Covid lock downs were used to get the people and governments ready for war?!?! Only essential services, limited travel, stay at home orders, and etc.

Just a thought.

More war news unfortunately......


https://apnews.com/article/russia-u...urope-moscow-2e4e1cf784f22b6afbe5a2f936725550



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An armored vehicle rolls outside Mykolaivka, Donetsk region, the territory controlled by pro-Russian militants, in eastern Ukraine, Sunday, Feb. 27, 2022. Fighting also raged in two eastern territories controlled by pro-Russia separatists. (AP Photo)


KYIV, Ukraine (AP) — President Vladimir Putin dramatically escalated East-West tensions by ordering Russian nuclear forces put on high alert Sunday, while Ukraine’s embattled leader agreed to talks with Moscow as Putin’s troops and tanks drove deeper into the country, closing in around the capital.

Citing “aggressive statements” by NATO and tough financial sanctions, Putin issued a directive to increase the readiness of Russia’s nuclear weapons, raising fears that the invasion of Ukraine could lead to nuclear war, whether by design or mistake.

The Russian leader is “potentially putting in play forces that, if there’s a miscalculation, could make things much, much more dangerous,” said a senior U.S. defense official, speaking on condition of anonymity to discuss rapidly unfolding military operations.

Putin’s directive came as Russian forces encountered strong resistance from Ukraine defenders. Despite Russian advances across the country, U.S. officials say they believe the invasion has been more difficult, and slower, than the Kremlin envisioned, though that could change as Moscow adapts.
 

gb9

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don't know about war, but definitely conditioning for gov. control.
 
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Oblio

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So now that Russia's got it's finger on the nuclear trigger and Europe is sending a billions dollars in military equipment to the Ukraine, I wonder what it will take to start a thermo-nuclear exchange?
 

ZNP

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So now that Russia's got it's finger on the nuclear trigger and Europe is sending a billions dollars in military equipment to the Ukraine, I wonder what it will take to start a thermo-nuclear exchange?
Well I'm thinking the deep state has Russia set up for a false flag event with suitcase nukes in the US that they could then blame on Russia. This could distract from release of Durham report/military tribunal of Clinton, etc.

(I have unconfirmed reports of Jews evacuating NYC. -- Ken Potter posted a video from a guy in NYC with this).
 
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Ruby123

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Can a nuclear bomb be released by a ship at sea, just wondering? Does anybody know??
 

Aidan1

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Calling Ukraine a dictatorship is because they have arrested the opposition party and thrown them in jail.

Trump never did anything like that.

Now Biden and his administration has encouraged Canada to act as a dictator in seizing the bank accounts of anyone who supported the truckers.

There have been people in Biden's administration who have called for anyone in the opposition party (voted for Trump) to lose their job or in some other way be punished but so far they have not acted on those tyrannical impulses.

But, OK, you have a different opinion than me. Please tell me what actions Trump took when he was president that is comparable to arresting someone from the opposition party and putting them in jail.

The real question here is whether or not the US should aid Ukraine and if so in what way? Since we are part of NATO and this is a European issue I think that it is up to NATO, but that is simply my opinion.

I could certainly understand Europe wanting to aid Ukraine with weapons to defend themselves, but after our debacle in Afghanistan I would not want to give Biden anything that he could then turn over to our enemies to use to attack us. I also think that this brings Biden's crime family involvement with the Ukraine into greater focus. Biden, Pelosi and John Kerry are all compromised in their relationship with the Ukraine. Again, that is my opinion, of course as a US citizen i would hope my opinion would carry more weight in the US than a German citizen's opinion.
Well so far I know the Ukraine deceide since 1991 for an Demokratie. In 2013 they fight on the maidan place for this against pro russia polticans which want Ukraine under russia. Since 2014 is an hiding war in Ukraine against russia, which took the Krim, Donezk and Luhansk.
So present the Ukraine is no dictatorship country. But they will, if russia will win this war. I have nothing heared about imprisoned opposition politicans.
If we do believe Putin, then he want have back the russian empire as it was before 1990. Ukraine belongs not to NATO or europian Union. So europe and us have no reason to send soldiers, without provoking World War 3. The Ukrainians fight for their freedom so it correct to help them with weapons and money. Also the people need soon everything, because they are try to escape the war, special woman and children.

Many of the countrys which stayed under sowjetregime in the past fear that Putin will not stop with the Ukraine. In this case all NATO states have to defend.

No, Trump sent not oppose people to prison. Thats correct So far I know.
But I compared Putin and Trump in their behaviour and there i see not much different.
Putin is a murder in attacking the Ukraine.
I cant claim that Trump is a murder and I dont do it.
Why i mentioned Trump? People tend to judge others if they dont like them, very easy. If people we like doing the same, we dont judge them, but agree with them.
 

Aidan1

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you believe the covid numbers are real and that ivermectin and hydroxy do not work.

so, of course you think biden's " victory" is legitimate.
The One have nothing to do with the other.

About Covid, I know the numbers of Covid in our hospital.
About Biden no Single us court cool proof that Trump claims are right.
 
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Oblio

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Can a nuclear bomb be released by a ship at sea, just wondering? Does anybody know??
Sure, by a cruise missile, a plane launched from a carrier, then there are nuclear artillery shells. And I'm sure they have other ways. Then there's the submarines...
 
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Ruby123

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Sure, by a cruise missile, a plane launched from a carrier, then there are nuclear artillery shells. And I'm sure they have other ways. Then there's the submarines...
Ok thanks Oblio, you are unbanned now lol.