Putin has made this invasion in Ukraine all about the US dollar.

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ZNP

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https://rumble.com/vw2muh-eu-to-ban-certain-russian-banks-from-swift.html

The SWIFT system requires all transactions to be converted to US dollars. The only way for Russia to get out from under this attempt to destroy the Russian economy is to destroy the US dollar.

The US dollar is the "petro dollar". The reason every country must have dollars is because you cannot buy oil from OPEC except in US dollars, that is why we provide security to the Middle East.

So what Biden and the EU are doing by kicking Russia off of SWIFT is the same thing in type that Trudeau did when they seized the assets of anyone who supported the truckers. Do you think Russia will sit by and say yes, we are a vassal state of the US, so sorry for stepping out of line?

No, this will force Russia into attacking the Mid East (which means Israel) and they won't do that without first attacking the US. An EMP a hundred miles above the US will knock out our power and electrical devices. Water pumps, refrigeration, pumps at gas stations, etc. Car engines will be fried, computers will be fried, etc.
 

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Maybe, but then Russia would be nuked beyond vapor. Risky.
 
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Maybe, but then Russia would be nuked beyond vapor. Risky.
Yes, MAD is still in play right now. (Mutually Assured Destruction, the idea that if one nation uses nukes, the other does too and everyone dies, yay.)

So TIMING is what it would come down to. Russia will wait until civil war breaks out here in the United States. That will be the time to strike.
 

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Yes, MAD is still in play right now. (Mutually Assured Destruction, the idea that if one nation uses nukes, the other does too and everyone dies, yay.)

So TIMING is what it would come down to. Russia will wait until civil war breaks out here in the United States. That will be the time to strike.
Putin has marooned himself on a very lonely island. Not only would he have to take out the military bases in our country, but our military bases throughout the world, and then his little 144 million population country would have to eliminate all of our allies.

It seems unlikely that he'd come after America.
 
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Putin has marooned himself on a very lonely island. Not only would he have to take out the military bases in our country, but our military bases throughout the world, and then his little 144 million population country would have to eliminate all of our allies.

It seems unlikely that he'd come after America.
Not yet, and it might not be Putin but one of his successors. Putin is actually a pretty moderate fellow. There are several others who are much more hardline looking to take his place.

And Russia would not do it alone. The Mystery Babylon prophecies talk about a coalition of eastern nations. Likely China will be one of them too. And perhaps some of the former Soviet republics. A lot of those countries are very quiet... or at least we never hear about what is going on there. And many of them are hugely Muslim.
 

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Not yet, and it might not be Putin but one of his successors. Putin is actually a pretty moderate fellow. There are several others who are much more hardline looking to take his place.

And Russia would not do it alone. The Mystery Babylon prophecies talk about a coalition of eastern nations. Likely China will be one of them too. And perhaps some of the former Soviet republics. A lot of those countries are very quiet... or at least we never hear about what is going on there. And many of them are hugely Muslim.
Perhaps. But it seems odd that his allies aren't helping him right now when he could really use it.

Another reason why I don't think it will escalate too badly is because he's essentially fighting on his own territory. If World War 3 truly breaks out he's at home and would by and large destroy his own country. It doesn't really make sense.
 

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Well not actually,,,there's a three way war in MAD that's in that China is staying out of it until we eliminate each other and then they will rule the earth. Or if any other combination happens i.e. Russia and China nuke each other then the US wins,,,or if the US and China nukes each other Russia wins ect.ect.
 
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Perhaps. But it seems odd that his allies aren't helping him right now when he could really use it.

Another reason why I don't think it will escalate too badly is because he's essentially fighting on his own territory. If World War 3 truly breaks out he's at home and would by and large destroy his own country. It doesn't really make sense.
He is actually being very careful. Power is still on in cities. He surgically neutered the Ukrainian air force by taking out their ground radar which they are dependent on within mere hours of invading. Kiev is encircled on three sides, but civilians are being allowed to leave on the west.

All the news about the Russian being incompetent and Ukraine being legendary godlike warriors is propaganda. Ukraine are so desperate they are giving away weapons and arming their criminals.
 

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Well not actually,,,there's a three way war in MAD that's in that China is staying out of it until we eliminate each other and then they will rule the earth. Or if any other combination happens i.e. Russia and China nuke each other then the US wins,,,or if the US and China nukes each other Russia wins ect.ect.
Lol
 

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lol, the Black Sea,,,Georgia is on one side and Ukraine on the other so if Georgia and Ukraine both become NATO the Black Sea fleet is trapped.
 

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He is actually being very careful. Power is still on in cities. He surgically neutered the Ukrainian air force by taking out their ground radar which they are dependent on within mere hours of invading. Kiev is encircled on three sides, but civilians are being allowed to leave on the west.

All the news about the Russian being incompetent and Ukraine being legendary godlike warriors is propaganda. Ukraine are so desperate they are giving away weapons and arming their criminals.
I'll just be happy when the Lord determines that my days are done and He rollllllls me right on outa here. I can't wait!
 

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Putin has made this invasion in Ukraine all about the US dollar.
Since the ruble is essentially worthless, how does this statement make any sense? Putin and all the Russian oligarchs have billions of US dollars outside Russia. By removing Russian banks from the SWIFT system, Russia will be crippled economically, and hopefully back off from Ukraine. This step should have been taken months ago but Biden resisted it because Biden is actually funding the Ukraine invasion.

This invasion is a reckless and desperate attempt by Putin to try and re-establish the "Russian Empire". It will accomplish nothing other than the destruction of many lives unnecessarily. But Biden is ultimately responsible for Putin's aggression and should be impeached. He does not need to give a State of the Union address. All he needs to say is "I RESIGN" or better yet "JUST LOCK ME UP".
 

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Any way though good night you all,God speed.

Georgia's next on Russia's list....
 
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Putin has marooned himself on a very lonely island. Not only would he have to take out the military bases in our country, but our military bases throughout the world, and then his little 144 million population country would have to eliminate all of our allies.

It seems unlikely that he'd come after America.
This very lonely island is precisely what the globalists want. How do you get the whole world to want one world government with one world leader? You need a world war, you need them begging for this like Ukraine yesterday begging to be part of NATO.

Bannon did a book review yesterday on a book that was published in 2014 saying Russia would invade Ukraine in 2022. This really was not a surprise to those studying what is going on and everything that Biden and the globalists did was to provoke and promote this attack. Claiming they had tried to deter it is a transparent lie to anyone familiar with the political equation.

Now that Putin is all in on this invasion they are pulling out horrific acts to make sure he takes this war to the next level. Ukraine is begging for admission to NATO, that tells Putin he cannot withdraw. They cut off the country from SWIFT which has already led to runaway inflation in Russia and will result in famine and misery for Russia. Therefore he must break the back of this and he can do it if he seized control of the wheat production for Europe and then rolls into the Mid East to seize control of the Mid East.

Why would the globalists want this?

They need someone to take out the US, what better country than Russia. They will kill two birds with one stone. Russia and the US destroy each other as well as Israel leaving Europe to stand alone and take over. It seems obvious that the truly wealthy, the tech giants and all these oligarchs actually want one world government. They all seem to have their own little party (party of Davos) and have no allegiance to any one country. Even though a number of them may have come from the US they realize the US is too much trouble to control, might as well burn it down to bring them into submission. Same is true of Russia and all their Islamic allies like Iran and Syria and the Taliban.

So look at the stupidity -- high ranking government officials in the US calling for us to institute a "no fly zone" in Ukraine. How do we do that? We come in with our air force and tell Russia they can't fly over Ukraine? What if Russia doesn't listen? We shoot down a plane and just like that we are fighting Russia. How stupid is this? But that is precisely what the Party of Davos wants, a fight to the death between Russia and the US.
 
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This very lonely island is precisely what the globalists want. How do you get the whole world to want one world government with one world leader? You need a world war, you need them begging for this like Ukraine yesterday begging to be part of NATO.

Bannon did a book review yesterday on a book that was published in 2014 saying Russia would invade Ukraine in 2022. This really was not a surprise to those studying what is going on and everything that Biden and the globalists did was to provoke and promote this attack. Claiming they had tried to deter it is a transparent lie to anyone familiar with the political equation.

Now that Putin is all in on this invasion they are pulling out horrific acts to make sure he takes this war to the next level. Ukraine is begging for admission to NATO, that tells Putin he cannot withdraw. They cut off the country from SWIFT which has already led to runaway inflation in Russia and will result in famine and misery for Russia. Therefore he must break the back of this and he can do it if he seized control of the wheat production for Europe and then rolls into the Mid East to seize control of the Mid East.

Why would the globalists want this?

They need someone to take out the US, what better country than Russia. They will kill two birds with one stone. Russia and the US destroy each other as well as Israel leaving Europe to stand alone and take over. It seems obvious that the truly wealthy, the tech giants and all these oligarchs actually want one world government. They all seem to have their own little party (party of Davos) and have no allegiance to any one country. Even though a number of them may have come from the US they realize the US is too much trouble to control, might as well burn it down to bring them into submission. Same is true of Russia and all their Islamic allies like Iran and Syria and the Taliban.

So look at the stupidity -- high ranking government officials in the US calling for us to institute a "no fly zone" in Ukraine. How do we do that? We come in with our air force and tell Russia they can't fly over Ukraine? What if Russia doesn't listen? We shoot down a plane and just like that we are fighting Russia. How stupid is this? But that is precisely what the Party of Davos wants, a fight to the death between Russia and the US.
They are going to get that fight eventually... but it's not going to turn out how they think.

The US and the West are going to fall. The NEW New World Order, with Russia at the core, will rise. Eventually the Luciferian agenda will progress, but they're going to be pushed back for a time when the West falls.
 

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They are going to get that fight eventually... but it's not going to turn out how they think.

The US and the West are going to fall. The NEW New World Order, with Russia at the core, will rise. Eventually the Luciferian agenda will progress, but they're going to be pushed back for a time when the West falls.
When would you say that the US is going to fall? How do we prepare? And, where do we go?
 

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When would you say that the US is going to fall? How do we prepare? And, where do we go?
I think we may see the tribulation begin this fall. If that is the case we might see Ezekiel 38 fulfilled over the next six months! That would be totally amazing. If that is the case it is very possible that we will see some amazing attacks on the US, could be this month but definitely there have been warnings of these attacks this coming September.

The only place to go is to the Lord. There is no salvation outside of Him. That said if you live in the US you don't want to be in a major coastal city and you can add Dallas and Chicago to that list.
 

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I think we may see the tribulation begin this fall. If that is the case we might see Ezekiel 38 fulfilled over the next six months! That would be totally amazing. If that is the case it is very possible that we will see some amazing attacks on the US, could be this month but definitely there have been warnings of these attacks this coming September.

The only place to go is to the Lord. There is no salvation outside of Him. That said if you live in the US you don't want to be in a major coastal city and you can add Dallas and Chicago to that list.
Wow, man. Just . . . wow. I'm on the other side of the mountain range of Seattle. Should be enough of a buffer to keep rolling East to get away from the nuke clouds. Many of my family and old friends would disappear.
 
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When would you say that the US is going to fall? How do we prepare? And, where do we go?
I wrote about some of these questions in my book "How America Ends." And some of them I considered in the book but did not have a definitive answer for.

Understand that the Bible has a great deal to say about a Babylon which IS NOT ancient Babylon. We can KNOW this because we KNOW how ancient Babylon fell and what has happened to her since, and the Biblical details concerning MYSTERY Babylon do not fit with the history of ancient Babylon. The following talks about Mystery Babylon, a nation of immigrants, about to be judged by God for numerous sins.

Jer 51:44 And I will punish Bel in Babylon, and I will bring forth out of his mouth that which he hath swallowed up: and the nations shall not flow together any more unto him: yea, the wall of Babylon shall fall.
Jer 51:45 My people, go ye out of the midst of her, and deliver ye every man his soul from the fierce anger of the LORD.
Jer 51:46 And lest your heart faint, and ye fear for the rumour that shall be heard in the land; a rumour shall both come one year, and after that in another year shall come a rumour, and violence in the land, ruler against ruler.
Jer 51:47 Therefore, behold, the days come, that I will do judgment upon the graven images of Babylon: and her whole land shall be confounded, and all her slain shall fall in the midst of her.

Jer 51:48 Then the heaven and the earth, and all that is therein, shall sing for Babylon: for the spoilers shall come unto her from the north, saith the LORD.
Jer 51:49 As Babylon hath caused the slain of Israel to fall, so at Babylon shall fall the slain of all the earth.
Jer 51:50 Ye that have escaped the sword, go away, stand not still: remember the LORD afar off, and let Jerusalem come into your mind.

"When would you say that the US is going to fall?"

I cannot put a date on it, but from the italicized context above, we see an open conflict within the land of Mystery Babylon prior to the end. We are very close to such a civil war now, I think. Another stolen election, or even the outcome of the American Freedom Convoy and how those truckers and protesters are treated, could spark violence here in the United States. The People are chafing against the wicked elites who rule over us. The Bible says there will be rumors of war for years before it actually happens, and then the civil war itself. We don't know exactly how long the civil war will last, but that's a definite sign from God that judgment is nearly here.

Notice that verse 46 tells us we should not be afraid if we understand how God is going to allow things to unfold.

"How do we prepare?"
I think that God's command to "come out of her" in bold above COULD mean three different things. (1) I believe that "coming out of Mystery Babylon" entails a spiritual repentence and rejection of the sins and lifestyle for which Mystery Babylon is going to be judged. (2) I believe that God is clearly saying it may be necessary for God's people to flee out of the land in order to save their lives. The Fall of Mystery Babylon is JUDGMENT and it's not meant for Christians. This is why we are given this warning, here in Jeremiah and in several other places in Scripture as well, in order to save the lives of those who obey. (3) It is my hope and prayer that our merciful God will allow a portion of the United States to SECEDE from the wicked federal government prior to the end, thus COMING OUT from Mystery Babylon's political system and removing from her territory. I told God that I am going to stay here in the USA, and that if I am wrong about secession sparing a portion from judgment then so be it, I will die in the land where I was born. I'm moving to Tennessee, an area which I think is likely to secede, and the rest is in God's hands.

Concerning other preparations, SEEK FOOD INDEPENDENCE. You won't be able to rely on a grocery store to feed you when Western society falls. If you can move to an area where you can grow your own food, keep chickens, raise bees (both bees and honey can be eaten), have a fish pond, grow a garden, etc. then by all means start making these changes now. Learn the skills you need and start putting them into practice. If this is not possible, store up supplies. It's always a good idea to have enough food and water on hand for several months anyways. There is no guarantee, especially if we go to war, that the power grid and supply lines will provide the necessities of life.

Learn how to defend yourself, and arm up. Join a local militia group or neighborhood watch. If secession and civil war happen, there will be roving raiders and criminals as well as the warring factions. Keep in mind that the Biden regime has intentionally allowed millions of young men of military age (many of them Muslims) to come into this country illegally. There are gangs, cartel groups, and others who hate everything decent that America once stood for, and when law and order break down, they will be doing whatever they want.

"And, where do we go?"
As I mentioned, I will be staying within the United States, but I hope that we will see a secession movement before judgment comes. The secession movement might actually spark the civil war itself, which will be the opening the Eastern coalition needs for that nuclear first strike. If this scenario is actually how things unfold, then it's important to choose an area of the country which will be part of those states that decide to separate from the corrupt federal government. By doing so, they will no longer be "Mystery Babylon" and subject to her judgments. So I hope.

If you are staying within the United States, I would recommend the triangle between Tennessee, Florida, and Texas. Pick a state where the people are self-reliant, virtuous and diligent, and where the NWO agenda is strongly resisted. For example, there is a "health credential" (vaccine passport) being rolled out in dozens of states. TN is not one of them, thank God. Tennessee has also resisted Critical Race Theory being taught in schools, has resisted some of the totalitarian aspects of the COVID plandemic agenda, and has opposed perversion and pornography in the school system. The state is very gun friendly, with many old fashioned, Bible preaching churches. People are old school, not sophisticated, practical, self reliant. These sorts of things are what you should be looking for. Also choose an area away from huge cities which will certainly be targets, like DC, NYC, Denver (NWO HQ in North America), Vegas, and large cities in California. Cities which are especially wicked should be avoided, since we know the coming destruction is JUDGMENT and I'm sure God intends to take especial care that the wickedest places get their just desserts. Also, in the case of loss of power, water, food supply, etc. large cities will become hell on Earth simply due to human nature and desperation.

If you choose to leave the United States, I would recommend choosing a nation in South America. It is somewhat isolated from both the core nations of "the West" and the Eastern bloc. A flat Earth view will show you why... South America extends away from the rest of the world and it actually IS quite isolated. When the Russian bear begins its campaign of world conquest, the physical difficulties for the Eastern bloc to control South America may result in a period of relative liberty there if your home nation is chosen wisely.

I know that Brazil and Ecuador are very popular places for Americans to retire due to the exchange rate. Let me say, however, that the US dollar will become worthless when the USA is destroyed in just one day. USD is not a secure store of value. I also would personally avoid cryptocurrency; I like the concept, but it is too dependent on technology like the internet for its usage. If you lose power or the internet goes down, then what good does your crypto do for you?

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