Russia preparing for war

[ZNP]

The three mile long convoy on the outskirts of Kyev in the news yesterday pulled back except for the ones destroyed on the road today so maybe they wont need help after all.

Kiev is surrounded and cut off, they will fall if they don't surrender. No one is going to be growing wheat in the middle of this war so preventing this crop from being grown this year is a major concern to Europe. Russia either fights or returns to Russia with their tail between their legs, I highly doubt Putin will do that.

 

[Aidan1]

Do you have an original thought or do you just mindlessly repeat what the propagandists want you to say? In the last 22 years the only four year period in which Putin did not invade another country was when Trump was president.

We don't know the whole story, but the facts we do know tell us that Biden, Kerry, Pelosi, and other key government officials are knee deep in corruption in the Ukraine. Also, everything that Biden has done has been to build a highway for Putin to roll into the Ukraine. Cancelling our pipeline and approving Russia's pipeline assured Russia that Germany would not protest and it doubled their income to help pay for this. Threatening to put nuclear missiles in Ukraine 5 minutes from Moscow was a clear provocation that Russia could not allow.

Biden wants Putin to burn the Ukraine to the ground to cover his tracks with all his crimes.

Everything you have ever said on this forum has been completely wrong. You were wrong about the Pandemic coming from a bioweapons lab, you were wrong about it being an act of war, you were wrong about this invasion. and you are wrong about who is giving aid and comfort to Putin.

This is your view and this are your conclusions. Then go ahead and believe it.
About Putin, his war against the Ukraine has nothing to do with provoke from the West. The West would be never able to attack russia and there was never an interest to do it. Or should we attack russia with an reduced army and an prorussia government? We made us depent from russia through the gas.
The reasons Putin claimes for to attack his brother nation are fake.

 

[iamsoandso]

Sounds nice.

This is no longer about the Ukraine, it is about Russia being kicked off of SWIFT. Just today the Russian ruble has fallen 25% relative to the US dollar. All of Russia will very quickly realize that the US and Europe are treating them as a vassal state and if they have any self respect at all they will have to fight the US dollar. What does that look like? I suspect there will be a large EMP over the US that knocks out all electricity in the continental 48 states. Imagine anything that is electric being fried (power plants, refrigerators, computers, internet, cars, water pumps, pumps at the gas station, etc).

Then after causing total chaos in the US Russia can roll into the Middle East. If Russia controls the Middle East the entire SWIFT system collapses and the ruble will become the reserve currency.

I think that before Russia heads south they will first head into Poland. If they control the wheat market in Europe as well as well as Germany's oil they will have Europe by the balls.

Right now the US does not support going to war with Russia so I suspect there will be a very nasty false flag event, dirty suitcase nuke bombs in major cities, that are blamed on Russia to manipulate the US into going to war with Russia. Following that Russia will be justified in blasting the EMP over the US

Yes good old SWIFT that's why I don't use debit cards nor make loans from banks(don't want to be mixed up in numbers involving buying and selling) And hmm,,,Poland,Romania ect. are NATO nations which would require every NATO nation to defend with troops so Putin really needs to master the nations the size of Texas before he takes them on.

 

[ZNP]

Yes good old SWIFT that's why I don't use debit cards nor make loans from banks(don't want to be mixed up in numbers involving buying and selling) And hmm,,,Poland,Romania ect. are NATO nations which would require every NATO nation to defend with troops so Putin really needs to master the nations the size of Texas before he takes them on.

Stay tuned

 

[iamsoandso]

Kiev is surrounded and cut off, they will fall if they don't surrender. No one is going to be growing wheat in the middle of this war so preventing this crop from being grown this year is a major concern to Europe. Russia either fights or returns to Russia with their tail between their legs, I highly doubt Putin will do that.

Nope done deal there is no more three mile Russian convoy on the outskirts of Kyev.

 

[ZNP]

This is your view and this are your conclusions. Then go ahead and believe it.
About Putin, his war against the Ukraine has nothing to do with provoke from the West. The West would be never able to attack russia and there was never an interest to do it. Or should we attack russia with an reduced army and an prorussia government? We made us depent from russia through the gas.
The reasons Putin claimes for to attack his brother nation are fake.

It was Biden who approved the pipeline from Russia that made your country pro Russian. That is not "my view" it is simply the fact. It was Zelensky today that said he wanted to be part of NATO, that is not my "view" that is a fact.

You get to have your own opinions, you don't get to have your own facts.

 

[iamsoandso]

oops,,,,

 

[ZNP]

 

[Magenta]

Yes, more and more this delusion looks like projection. You have magenta accusing this vague unnamed group of people on this forum of "idolizing" trump, yet refuses to provide any evidence at all that this is not a lie, I suspect it is projection. Then Aidan says Putin could be compared to Trump? Why not to Biden who has just recently acted in a blatantly lawless and tyrannical way?

I have wondered if those who have been so obviously wrong about Trump and Biden would be accountable and admit they are wrong. Sadly what we are seeing is this desperate Scarface approach, incapable of saying they were wrong.

Oh, no, they were identified as Trump idolizers. Hardly vague. I am not sure how you missed that. You even falsely accused me over it while you went on and on about slander. Do you really need names? I am not sorry to disappoint you in that I do not keep such lists. Why don't you just keep your eyes open? You know, it is not so difficult after all, to see when someone refuses to acknowledge and/or accept and/or admit certain faults and failings of the man in light of all the evidence that amounts to irrefutable proof of such.

 

[ZNP]

https://rumble.com/vw2z4y-ukraine-asks-for-fast-track-eu-membership.html

About Putin, his war against the Ukraine has nothing to do with provoke from the West. The West would be never able to attack russia and there was never an interest to do it. Or should we attack russia with an reduced army and an prorussia government? We made us depent from russia through the gas.
The reasons Putin claimes for to attack his brother nation are fake.

https://rumble.com/vw2z4y-ukraine-asks-for-fast-track-eu-membership.html

Really, the reasons are fake? you get to have your own opinion, you don't get to have your own facts.

 

[iamsoandso]

oops,,,,

I should have said more than just oops,lol,,,,,,,,,,, Look close at the vehicles in the video for a big "V" on them they identify them as eastern Russian military. Just saying this for identification FYI

 

[ZNP]

I should have said more than just oops,lol,,,,,,,,,,, Look close at the vehicles in the video for a big "V" on them they identify them as eastern Russian military. Just saying this for identification FYI

Reminds me of the Godfather

 

[ZNP]

 

[iamsoandso]

Reminds me of the Godfather

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I have to concede I suppose the mob,mafia ect. were always a bad thing when I grew up and though I watch a lot of movies the God father,Scarface ect. I haven't never watched.

 

[ZNP]

Reminds me of the Godfather

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Remember the story. The Corleone's didn't want to sell drugs to kids, as a result the other mobsters tried to kill the Godfather, Sonny went to the mattresses and was killed, but ultimately Michael Corleone takes over, kills all those who tried to attack them and then moved to Las Vegas to run Casinos.

Just because Putin is a thug and a mobster doesn't mean that the Ukrainians are any different. Just one group of mafiosos shooting the other group.

 

[Magenta]

I have to concede I suppose the mob,mafia ect. were always a bad thing when I grew up
and though I watch a lot of movies the God father,Scarface ect. I haven't never watched.

I have another Netflix recommendation for you

Saving Capitalism (<= imdb link )

I watched another documentary on Mob rule in Montreal, also quite
good, though also somewhat fictionalized especially in season two.

Called Bad Blood. Manhunt: UnaBomber was also highly watchable

 

[iamsoandso]

I have another Netflix recommendation for you

Saving Capitalism (<= imdb link )

I watched another documentary on Mob rule in Montreal, also quite
good, though also somewhat fictionalized especially in season two.

Called Bad Blood. Manhunt: UnaBomber was also highly watchable

Thanks sorry I didn't respond for a while I was searching for the "Z" "z"(in a square) or "V" makings ect. on the Russian vehicles they denote the "military district" in Russia they came from when amassed for the invasion but sort of like the white stripes on aircraft during D-Day are to denote Russian from Ukrainian(Ukrainians have similar vehicles). From researching I think the ones with "z" in the second vehicle were who attacked the airport the days before being sent to Kyev and the other video "v" was coming from down from the north of Kyev.

Anyway though thanks for the documentary I put it on the list but am low on data(mifi,lol) for about a week and was saving the remainder of gigs to watch the news.

 

[shittim]

I found it intereting the ukainian civilians refered to soviet helicopter gunships as locust like

 

[XmasBaby]

I understand that it looks like Russia is pathetic, but I don't think they really are. I think they underestimated what it would take to take over Ukraine, but I still think they can do it. Putin's motives are definitely questionable considering that the sections of Ukraine that do have groups wanting to be Russian are not where he's invading. He claimed he was going to help them peacefully. So that's completely false based on his actions. Anyhow, i know that right now it looks like the Ukraine will defend themselves, but I'm still worried that Putin is not going to go back to Russia with his tail between his legs and will make an example out of Ukraine. Maybe I'm wrong, though. Maybe Russia doesn't have anything more powerful than what they've sent so far to Ukraine. I'm just worried. If it's the end of the world, come, Lord Jesus, come! But if it's not then I don't want nukes used anywhere. Didn't you guys have to read about Hiroshima and Nagasaki? The effects of those bombs were disgusting. I don't want that for anyone.

 

[ZNP]

I understand that it looks like Russia is pathetic, but I don't think they really are. I think they underestimated what it would take to take over Ukraine, but I still think they can do it. Putin's motives are definitely questionable considering that the sections of Ukraine that do have groups wanting to be Russian are not where he's invading. He claimed he was going to help them peacefully. So that's completely false based on his actions. Anyhow, i know that right now it looks like the Ukraine will defend themselves, but I'm still worried that Putin is not going to go back to Russia with his tail between his legs and will make an example out of Ukraine. Maybe I'm wrong, though. Maybe Russia doesn't have anything more powerful than what they've sent so far to Ukraine. I'm just worried. If it's the end of the world, come, Lord Jesus, come! But if it's not then I don't want nukes used anywhere. Didn't you guys have to read about Hiroshima and Nagasaki? The effects of those bombs were disgusting. I don't want that for anyone.

Pure propaganda. Everyone knows it is extremely difficult to take a city and if you don't want horrific civilian casualties it is impossible. However, you can starve a city out no problem. Cut off the trucks and in two weeks they will be starving. Cut off the power and the lack of water will become a major crisis in two to three days. The question is not how tough Ukrainians are after 3 days but after 3 weeks.

Also it is a lame comparison to bring in the Blitz and London, these soldiers are on the outskirts with guns and mortars. Also they control the skies.