The False Teaching (& Truth) of what happens at the Rapture.

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FreeGrace2

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FreeGrace2 said:
How about just posting the context for what the other poster meant by "last day". I don't need all of 2 chapters. Just the immediate context, thank you.
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I did but will gladly do again.

The context is the Resurrection
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OK. In that context, the last day is the last day of "normal life" on earth. iow, since all believers will have glorified bodies, they will be supernatural, just as Jesus in His resurrection body was.
 
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Carry_Your_Name said:
That "setting" is IN the tribulation. It's all bummed out. At least from "abomination and desolation", it's all during the tribulation. You're making it something else, not me.
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The setting CHANGED.

Jesus shifts to noah in the earth before the flood.
Jesus shifts to prejudgement.
No ac or trib of any kind in the shift Jesus makes.

Bit i do realize it blows apart the pretrib rapture deal.

Glad you are finally getting it
 
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Hitch said:
Its your choice NOT to believe the resurrection is at the last day , contrary to Christ. But its never a good idea.
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OK, pinpoint the "last day" and what's next? Or does everyone enter the eternal state?

Clear enough?
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You've never yet been clear enough.

As most futurists do
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Do you believe that there won't be a future? What does "futurist" mean to you? All prophecy is in regard to the future. So what do you mean?

Tell me why those hearing our Lord in John 6 should NOT have taken His word at face value.
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Everyone should take Jesus at face value. What's the issue?
 
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The setting CHANGED.

Jesus shifts to noah in the earth before the flood.
Jesus shifts to prejudgement.
No ac or trib of any kind in the shift Jesus makes.

Bit i do realize it blows apart the pretrib rapture deal.

Glad you are finally getting it
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No He didn't. You changed it to suit your false narrative.
 
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Hitch said:
Clearly 'all' in v 28 are personally defined by Christ as both the good and the evil. just as it is clear 5;24 is NOT speaking of bodily resurrection but spiritual.
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Where do you think 5:24 speaks of spiritual resurrection?

John 5:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.

I don't see anything about resurrection. It's about the 3 tenses of salvation: past, present and future.
 
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Tell God the ark was not over the mountains.

Tell God his ark floating above the mountains was a space ship.

Tell him anyone making the observation of the ark carried above the mountains is " one sad mess"
If you were mot shown it would be one thing.
But after you are shown it is a travesty and mockery of Gods word.

You crossed the line.
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You crossed the line by claiming that Jesus takes glorified believers to heaven.
 
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FreeGrace2 said:
Tired of your 'cat and mouse' games. JUST TELL me the timing that Jesus gave, since you think I have ignored it. Then I will respond.

If I have ignored it, I will acknowledge that.


Who would argue with this?

I said:
I see. Jesus refuted all of my posts, all of which have verses that support what I believe.

Why are you so dense? I've already given examples of different 'last days". Was I unclear or something?

The last day in which the resurrection occurs is when Jesus Christ comes at the Second Advent, which has been already proven over and over. So, what's the problem?
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In your opinion what happens at or after the Second event?
 
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Carry_Your_Name said:
Come on, man, you're embarrassing yourself. Get a grip. And have a nice day.
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Everyday is so nice walking with Jesus and in the truth.
His rich and awesome word like a gold mine.

Again.
You claim i am posting lies.
Prove it.

Either prove it or apologize.
 
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Carry_Your_Name said:
No He didn't. You changed it to suit your false narrative.
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It is right there.

Right there for you to change.

You dont like it.

Too bad.
You are being made to go against the Awesome Word of God.
You own it sir.

Change this;
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37 But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,

Entered ark prejudgement.
BEFORE THE TRIB.

Change it.
Change it to fit your doctrine
 
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Any of you....
Post ANYTHING i have written that is false.
 
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Beckie said:
In your opinion what happens at or after the Second event?
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Great question. I read Rev 20 very carefully and know that there will be a literal 1,000 year Millennial reign by the King of kings, at the end of which, will be the final battle of Gog and Magog, since Satan will be loosened at the end to deceive the nations again. Every unbleliever will be killed. And then raised to life to attend the GWT judgment. After which they all will be cast into the LoF. So ends the Millennial reign on the present earth. Ch 21 opens with the present heaven and earth "passing away" and there will be a new heaven and earth. This would be what is called the eternal state. iow, your Timex won't work. Time won't exist.

Speaking of the Millennium, who do you think populates the earth during that time?
 
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Everyday is so nice walking with Jesus and in the truth.
His rich and awesome word like a gold mine.

Again.
You claim i am posting lies.
Prove it.

Either prove it or apologize.
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Oh, what an opportunity!!!

If you are not "posting lies", then PROVE your claim that Jesus will take glorified believers to heaven. With a verse.
 
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walknlight said:
Good Morning!

Mount Ararat · Elevation
16,854 feet

God Bless!
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It just dawned on me.

There are members here, that no doubt believe, the flood was local.

That could why they are so unhinged that the waters were over 3 miles deep with the ark floating on them so high into the heavens.

Error spawning error.
 
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It is right there.

Right there for you to change.

You dont like it.

Too bad.
You are being made to go against the Awesome Word of God.
You own it sir.

Change this;
Mat24
37 But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,

Entered ark prejudgement.
BEFORE THE TRIB.

Change it.
Change it to fit your doctrine
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As the days of Noah were.

Damn right.

Flood: 5 months (Gen. 7:24); Judgement: 5 months (Rev. 11:5, 11:10)

How long is the Great Tribulation/judgement? 3.5 years.

Keep lying you coward.
 
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FreeGrace2 said:
Oh, what an opportunity!!!

If you are not "posting lies", then PROVE your claim that Jesus will take glorified believers to heaven. With a verse.
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Anybody can get in the folly with you.
Show me a verse that specifically says they don't.

So easy to do what you do.

Proves zero.

Show me a verse that says horses breath in heaven
Show me one where it says the elders wear sandals.
Show me one where it says Jesus scaled his fish before cooking them.
Show me the verse where it says Jesus cleaned his teeth.

Your deal is a dog and pony show.

" prove a negative"
"prove a negative"
" prove a negative"
" prove a negative"
" nowhere on the tree does it say "tree"...see, it ain't a tree"

Pure folly.
 
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