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Gifts are distributed among the saints as the Spirit wills according to I Corinthians 12. We do not even see examples of all the apostles raising someone from the dead. These types of expectations should be acceptable according to what we see presented in scripture.
Also, if your attitude is you do not believe certain scriptures in the New Testament do not apply to the church unless you see some kind of miracle to prove it, surely you can see how such an approach to scripture would be problematic.
Also, if your attitude is you do not believe certain scriptures in the New Testament do not apply to the church unless you see some kind of miracle to prove it, surely you can see how such an approach to scripture would be problematic.
Hmmm. How many healing or miracles have you done. I have laid hands on people who said the pain left or reported back they did not have the medical i have heard the bone pop in the compound fracture of a leg as I laid hands on a man. This does not mean I am holier than someone not used in a particular way.
God's grace is manifold and manifestations of the Spirit are distributed as the Spirit wills.
Are you a Christian by your own interpretation of Mark 16?
method? The passage says the signs shall follow _them_ that believe. That is plural. They follow the group. That does not mean that everyone has to drink poison to be a Christian. Have you done that, btw? Cola doesn't count. If you do I recommend doing the baptism part in Mark 16 first. And I do not recommend doing the poison thing on prupose. If I recall Eusebius it happened to Barsabas without him knowing at the time.
God's grace is manifold and manifestations of the Spirit are distributed as the Spirit wills.
Are you a Christian by your own interpretation of Mark 16?
method? The passage says the signs shall follow _them_ that believe. That is plural. They follow the group. That does not mean that everyone has to drink poison to be a Christian. Have you done that, btw? Cola doesn't count. If you do I recommend doing the baptism part in Mark 16 first. And I do not recommend doing the poison thing on prupose. If I recall Eusebius it happened to Barsabas without him knowing at the time.
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presidente, I know you desperately want to control the narrative.
All I will say is, yeah, I believe you when you say you can perform miracles.
All I will say is, yeah, I believe you when you say you can perform miracles.
in a nutshell, succinct and true
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James 4:11
Speak not evil one of another, brethren. He that speaketh evil of his brother, and judgeth his brother, speaketh evil of the law, and judgeth the law: but if thou judge the law, thou art not a doer of the law, but a judge.[/QUOTE]
if you think it is evil, then kindly stop doing it
ps...don't sling scripture at me. I am way way past being rebuked by folks who drink tea with their pinkie in the air
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the other interesting thing is why don't you quote the person who actually made that statement?
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Speak not evil one of another, brethren. He that speaketh evil of his brother, and judgeth his brother, speaketh evil of the law, and judgeth the law: but if thou judge the law, thou art not a doer of the law, but a judge.[/QUOTE]
if you think it is evil, then kindly stop doing it
ps...don't sling scripture at me. I am way way past being rebuked by folks who drink tea with their pinkie in the air
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the other interesting thing is why don't you quote the person who actually made that statement?
rhetorical question
if you think it is evil, then kindly stop doing it
ps...don't sling scripture at me. I am way way past being rebuked by folks who drink tea with their pinkie in the air
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the other interesting thing is why don't you quote the person who actually made that statement?
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Well the forum didn't have the double quote activated.
I drink my tea the normal way. You seem you could be one of those pinkies-out girl unless this is some kind of anti-tea SDA or Mormon comment. I don't know how to include this in the post, but if you haven't seen this Far Side of the pinky out thing, have a look on the right of the screen: https://www.google.com/search?q=bar...i=WzQhYoOVPMyDtAa75r2wDw#imgrc=lYW6fG7WdsA27M
ps...don't sling scripture at me. I am way way past being rebuked by folks who drink tea with their pinkie in the air
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the other interesting thing is why don't you quote the person who actually made that statement?
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Well the forum didn't have the double quote activated.
I drink my tea the normal way. You seem you could be one of those pinkies-out girl unless this is some kind of anti-tea SDA or Mormon comment. I don't know how to include this in the post, but if you haven't seen this Far Side of the pinky out thing, have a look on the right of the screen: https://www.google.com/search?q=bar...i=WzQhYoOVPMyDtAa75r2wDw#imgrc=lYW6fG7WdsA27M
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I did not say miracles. I haven't walked on water or turned water into wine. I have had people tell me pain left, got word back from the doctor, and the bone popping thing once.
Have you ever prayed for anyone who got better--- not the sniffles getting better in 10 days, though we should be thankful to God for those things as well? Have you ever noticed God answering specific prayers for things that don't seem to just happen normally if you did not pray about them? Is it unbelievable to you that God might answer specific prayers?
Have you ever prayed for anyone who got better--- not the sniffles getting better in 10 days, though we should be thankful to God for those things as well? Have you ever noticed God answering specific prayers for things that don't seem to just happen normally if you did not pray about them? Is it unbelievable to you that God might answer specific prayers?
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This is the original op that I created. I am not responding to anything else but posts about this topic. thanks for understanding
SophieT, post: 4785162, member: 303760"]The New Apostolic Reformation...commonly called NAR....is what is called a dominionist movement. You can also find this movement under other names such as Third Wave, Seven Mountains, Latter Rain, Kingdom Now, Joel's Army, Manifest Sons of God, and more. The assertion is that God is restoring the lost offices of church governance, with special focus on the office of Prophet and Apostle.
They place a greater emphasis on dreams and visions and extra biblical revelation, leaving the Bible as more of a suggestion to some of the more extreme in the movement. Some attest to trips to heaven featuring face to face dialogues with Jesus, special angel escorts....such as Todd Bentley's 'Emma'
The basic claim is that the leaders of this movement have the power and authority to execute God's plans and purposes on earth and in fact, are the only ones who can do this.
Since this movement has been brought up again, after a hiatus, perhaps examining it again would be interesting and helpful for those who wonder what it is
SophieT, post: 4785162, member: 303760"]The New Apostolic Reformation...commonly called NAR....is what is called a dominionist movement. You can also find this movement under other names such as Third Wave, Seven Mountains, Latter Rain, Kingdom Now, Joel's Army, Manifest Sons of God, and more. The assertion is that God is restoring the lost offices of church governance, with special focus on the office of Prophet and Apostle.
They place a greater emphasis on dreams and visions and extra biblical revelation, leaving the Bible as more of a suggestion to some of the more extreme in the movement. Some attest to trips to heaven featuring face to face dialogues with Jesus, special angel escorts....such as Todd Bentley's 'Emma'
The basic claim is that the leaders of this movement have the power and authority to execute God's plans and purposes on earth and in fact, are the only ones who can do this.
Since this movement has been brought up again, after a hiatus, perhaps examining it again would be interesting and helpful for those who wonder what it is
Check out this clip of Chuck Pierce on Sid Roth's It's Supernatural show. The part I'm commenting on starts at 37:36. Pierce is talking about the necessity of a "realignment" of God's people. Roth asks him what he means by this and Pierce says the church has been saying the spirit of God doesn't exist. This is a lie from Hell if I ever heard one. What he means is all the people who don't buy into the charismania lies don't even believe in the Holy Spirit. Chuck Pierce is issuing a direct invitation to apostasy and that's what the NAR is about—leading God's people into apostasy.
For whatever it's worth, Pierce is a member of the Apostolic Council of Prophetic Elders. https://narconnections.com/chuck-pierce-4/
For whatever it's worth, Pierce is a member of the Apostolic Council of Prophetic Elders. https://narconnections.com/chuck-pierce-4/
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